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General Discussion / Re: Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 26, 2015, 11:17:14 AM »
Yeah, I love living here in Vegas, on the whole, but the summers are an arsehole and a half, aren't they KrazyEd?

Thank you all for the great information. I think I'll be okay not worrying about it too much until the summer actually arrives again. Looking forward to my test drive and potential purchase tomorrow :)

Quote from: BenS on December 26, 2015, 10:26:16 AM
That'd be great if you could park it in shade next to the bicycles; surely they'd be okay with you parking next to the bicycles if you explained why you wanted to do it? Our carpark shed at work is there for bicycles and motorbikes.
I guess I can ask if it turns out to be a problem. Worst they can do is say no, after all!

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General Discussion / Re: Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 26, 2015, 12:33:35 AM »
Only way I could do that is if I lock it to the bicycle rack and tell the guards "it's totally a bicycle, honest, it's just custom! See, no engine!" Somehow I don't think that'd fly. Though it would be funny!

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General Discussion / Re: Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 26, 2015, 12:21:01 AM »
Unfortunately it's an open parking lot (near McCarran) with no real available shade. If I do get the bike (and that's seeming likely--test ride tomorrow), I'll have to try BenS' idea of opening the cover to air flow somehow.

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General Discussion / Re: Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 25, 2015, 01:55:15 PM »
Thanks, KrazyEd. My specific concern with heat is that, where I work and with my work schedule (9 AM to 8:30 PM, generally), my bike'd be parked without cover for literally the entire day under direct sunlight (and there's really nowhere I can park that gets any reliable amount of shade--unless I park next to a Ford F350 or something at the right angle, lol)

My commute is only about 10 miles of streets, so I'm not at all worried about thrashing the thing day to day, I just worry about all that heat while parked doing a job on the battery. (I'm less concerned about losing performance over time than I am about somehow frying the thing outright, but perhaps that's not a reasonable thing to fear. 's why I asked!)

(Good point about a bike cover possibly making it worse, though, by trapping heat. Hadn't considered that.)

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General Discussion / Re: Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 25, 2015, 03:15:26 AM »
Lol, yeah, I was thinking more a slide or a low speed (~20mph) impact than flipping the bike out. If that happens I figure it's a miracle if I'm not dead, forget the damn bike.

And thanks for the reassurance on heat and capacity. It's still pretty surprising to me (though it also makes perfect sense) that going on the highway is so much worse than start-stop traffic for an electric, since that's dead opposite of everything I've been taught for ICEs. I suppose we'll see how much of a lead... uh, hand...?... I am.

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General Discussion / Battery safety in falls and maintenance in heat
« on: December 24, 2015, 11:17:36 PM »
I've been thinking for a while about getting a 2016 Zero S--my first bike in just over a decade. I'm sort of new to the idea of electric vehicles--and totally new to electric bikes--so I had a couple general questions I'm having trouble Googling for.

First, falls. God willing that won't happen, but knowledge is power. In a given fall or collision or what have you, is an electric motorcycle more, or less, likely to suffer catastrophic/expensive damage than an ICE bike? I've heard all sort of things ranging from simple cable disconnections to severe and irreparable battery short-outs, from "the mirror falls off" to "the bike dies forever, RIP".

Second, heat. I live in Las Vegas, the land of 110 degree Fahrenheit (42C i think) summers. I know LiIon batteries suffer and lose capacity more quickly when left in the heat. Would something as simple as a bike cover while I'm at work ameliorate that at all, or is it likely I'm just going to have to suffer reduced capacity sooner than normal?

Thanks for reading!

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