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86lb of torque ...lol GL Harley.

yes the 19k one will charge at 3kw and the premium will charge at 6kw, your home charger is compatible.

They did not double the level 1 charging rate, this isn't possible from a level 1 source. If you plug the SRF into a wall outlet, it will still take about 8 hours to charge at roughly 1.3kw. The 4 hour time you mentioned is the base level 2 charger at 3kw. You need a L2 charger to get that time.

Also I think trying to "future proof" these bikes is kind of a silly idea. The EV market is evolving quickly, i think manufactures should build bikes for today, which is why i love how zero went with a good L2 option. In the future when there are abundant fast chargers, the rest of the technology will have improved too and people will want a new bike.

Quote from: GaryArt1 on May 11, 2019, 02:54:04 AM

I'm in the same boat.  I could understand and deal with delays if there was good communication from zero to the customers or at least to the dealers. I think my dealer is just saying hopefully "insert week" because he had not heard anything from Zero.  To add insult to injury is the emails saying they are "coming off the line" or "shipping".  This is not giving me a good first experience with zero

So if I didn't know I would think Zero reads these forums, I would wonder.  I write complaining about no communication from Zero and 2 hours later I get an email from them congratulating me on my purchase, saying my bike will go into production "in the next few weeks", promising me to keep me informed on the progress and offering a tee shirt.  Now I know we all got this email who preordered but I have to take back my complaint and give credit where it is due.  Now of course i would have rather it been a email from my dealer saying my bike shipped but I have to give credit to Zero for finally communicating with the customer.  I really hope this continues.   

It would take very liltle effort to read as there isn't a huge amount of new post.

Don't know much about who is the most competitive in this event, Does anyone know if the SR'F is likely to win or has a good chance?

Quote from: David S on March 26, 2019, 11:02:16 AM

The claimed leaked specs are very impressive to me, but it would still be a very hard sell to me over a zero. Lighting has no dealer network as i can tell in america, and no community of owners that i can find. Even i they produce this bike it would be really tough for me to take it over a brand that has established itself like zero with actual dealers.

A big thing for me is the dc charging. I don't buy Zero reasoning for leaving off the sr/f. It's the future and harley, energica and Lightning all understand that.
Im looking forward to Thursday's launch date.

Im in the opposite camp here which seems to be a minority view. I much prefer 6kw L2 charging over DC fast charging. I would very rarely use DC but would use L2 very frequently.

Quote from: BamBam on March 19, 2019, 01:17:43 AM

I'm waiting with bated breath for the launch of the new Lighting Strike.  It's supposed to debut sometime this month.  I have no intention of replacing my 2017 DSR (I love that bike).  I'm just curious to see how it will stack up to the SR/F.

What I would probably be very interested in seeing is if they announce a nationwide dealer network.  I'm not really that hopeful being they state Free Shipping.  A $15K +/- mail order bike is not for me.  What would you do for service, ship it back to factory?  Normal service stations can't service these bikes.  They need to get dealers to carry and service them.  Then they have a chance.

I agree, almost no matter what they announce, I won't be interested because they just haven't established a network. Besides that, I don't think they will be able to be competitive with zero on a specs per price ratio when Zero has obviously produced more bikes.

Highly unlikely the 13k strike will have DC charging, or that version be anywhere near competitive with an SRF. Even if the specs are descent, I wouldn't feel comfortable buying from lightning yet until they actually start having dealers/distributers.

Also I still don't know what use cases people have in mind that want DC fast charging so much.