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I didn't take notice of this prior to the kickstand failing to remain in the stowed state. My guess is that this was a fatigue failure, as a rough estimate based on my commute there would be about 10k cycles. I agree that an appropriately designed steel component can have an arbitrarily high fatigue limit. All I can say is this most definitely failed! I am in a mild climate (SF bay area), with the bike garaged over night, and I avoid riding when the road is wet, so I don't anticipate corrosion (and no corrosion is immediately visible). No unusual stresses applied over the life I'm aware of. I'll see if I can't take a magnified image of the point of failure when the replacement is available, though that might be week after next owing to other priorities.

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In the category of long term wear items, the kickstand spring of my 2014S failed. Something to bear in mind if your bike is getting upwards of 86k miles! Out of curiosity, anyone else have this item fail, and for other folks with high mileage Zeros, any unusual components that have suffered wear out failure?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New San Jose Zero dealer
« on: July 23, 2024, 11:44:24 PM »
A necro-bump, but SJ BMW is unfortunately no longer a Zero franchisee, per a phone conversation I had with the parts department today (7/23/24). They referred me to Contra Costa Powersports for my parts order.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: How old is your zero?
« on: June 12, 2024, 03:14:02 AM »
MY 2014 Zero S, acquired as new in September 2015. Now at ~75kmiles (mainly freeway commuting). OBC replaced under warranty at ~25k miles, replacement still operating. Battery replaced under warranty at ~45k miles, replacement still operates normally. Instrument panel is degrading. Saddle wore through at ~65k miles. Key switch failed at ~70k miles (subsequently replaced). One oddball failure, the front fender disintegrated (subsequently replaced). Generally has been reliable, though I have some anxiety regarding the potential for the replacement battery, given the original factory battery degraded to a point of replacement by 45k miles, and given that there are 30k miles on the replacement battery. Still on original factory belt!

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Over the course of about 2 months, a degraded area of the instrument panel LCD has spread to the area shown in the photo. Has anyone else had this degradation occur, and, if so, does this continue or appear to reach some stable state that leaves the display still usable? The quote for replacement is about 300$, and if I can avoid that so much the better.

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     Last week I noted that on switching from low beam to high beam, there was a brief period of neither. After a few days, this had ended up being neither high or low beam being on (though the low power lamp, I think this is termed the running light, remains on), with the high beam indicator remaining illuminated on the instrument panel. Other electrical lamps, horn, continue to perform. Note that the factory headlamp bulb was replaced about 2 years ago with the same halogen bulb part as part of preventive maintenance so I have no reason to suspect the bulb itself.

     Has anyone experienced a similar issue, and, if so, found that replacing the multifunction switch restored normal headlamp function?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2014 zero s in 2022
« on: June 01, 2022, 02:38:57 AM »
My 2014S (and others) have required a replacement on board charger. Mine was replaced under warranty at about 25k miles, so you presumably have some distance to go, but you might want to include that as a consideration. The replacement has continued to work for several years and at least the 30k miles (and charging) since.

At about 45k miles my 2014S had battery issues that required a replacement. That too was under warranty. That is quite a bit into the distant future, and you're already carefully considering the state of the battery, but something to bear in mind.

Apart from those issues, my 2014S has been reliable (garaged, and maintained at moderate state of charge). Best of luck.

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Just a minor FYI to those who might still be riding a 2014S (or similar): a couple of parts that with wear might go airborne. In January, the tank bag's woven retaining loop and velcro had worn and, when not weighted, went aloft as I accelerated for a freeway merge. In March, the rear half of the original, 2 piece front fender detached while driving at 40 mph and was shortly thereafter crushed by subsequent traffic before I could retrieve it. There is a replacement single piece fender available through Zero, but with fading of the main panels that new fender is a cosmetic mismatch, que sera sera.

If anyone has other parts that were unanticipated wear items, please let me know so I can keep an eye on them!

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Battery Replacement
« on: February 03, 2022, 06:16:39 AM »
I was fortunate in that my 2014S required a replacement battery, but that happened just prior to the end of the 5 year warranty. As such, this was covered by the factory. This outcome was in part owing to the purchase having been as new, but after the bike having been on the dealer floor quite a while. If you have access to the original purchase date, you might see if by any stroke of luck this was within 5 years of now.

While I didn't have to pay for the replacement, the dealer who performed that replacement noted a price similar to what you were quoted. Had I needed to pay out of pocket, I likely would have at least limped along with the decreasing range until my 20 mile one way commute was not possible.

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Howdy, the price of the component (the pair of heated grips) was 83.51 USD before sales tax.

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In case you have a 2014S, and wanted to add the original accessory heated grips, Zero still has some. I contacted Zero for a recommended brand for that year & model, and the rep was surprised to find they actually had some still on the shelf. My local dealer ordered Part # 10-06443 from Zero, and my fingers are now warm for the winter months.

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      My 2014 S 11.4 kW-hr original battery made it to ~45k miles at which point it was exhibiting the various ills reported by others. After confirmation of battery degradation by testing at a dealer, Zero replaced the battery under warranty. The replacement 14.4 kW-hr battery has only about 5k miles at this point, no issues observed (though the battery replacement process had some initial issues). My commuting use sees 40 miles per day, discharging to as low as 65% then L1 recharging at work to 100%. In effect, the battery is garaged for most hours of a day at 83% to 84%, with fairly brief excursions to 100% and <70%. Temperature conditions are mild, being garaged in the SF bay area, and use is effectively year round so no long term storage considerations.

      Overall, I definitely had planned my purchase based on a longer operating life for the battery, but Zero did make it good with a replacement under warranty so at this point I'm fairly confident that I'll attain the cost-effectiveness that I planned on.

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As there was a question regarding battery longevity, I ride a 2014S that I purchased new in 2015, and, as the 5 year warranty (and 45k miles) was coming up, the battery began to have increasingly strange behavior, and noticeable loss of range wrt new. My guess was there was a bad cell, but I didn't attempt to diagnose this further, as Zero was good enough to replace the battery under warranty after confirming the impairment. As the original (2014) battery was no longer produced or available, a present day (2020) battery was installed (a net upgrade in capacity). This change in battery details apparently was a bit complicated, given the various interactions I had with the service department, and required several consultations between the service department and Zero (plus a few extra trips back to the service department, over a couple of months) to get everything working perfectly.

For my primary use case of commuting ~40 miles round trip per day, I would have kept operating the original battery for as long as possible barring a catastrophic failure, but I am content to have a battery without many years and miles so that I can do longer distance errands in addition to commuting. I have no notion of what the cost for installation (battery + shop time) would have been, but almost certainly more than I would have willingly parted with!

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Battery Replacement Options
« on: November 07, 2020, 03:32:55 AM »
If you are still within the battery warranty period (perhaps given it is a 2015) it may be worth paying for a service visit to assess the battery condition prior to expiration of the warranty, particularly if you have any reasons to suspect it has been degrading.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Model Year 2021 (Oct 13 release date)
« on: September 17, 2020, 02:06:42 AM »
A reverse 'gear' would be helpful to back uphill into my garage. Did the promised center stand option materialize as yet?

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