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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero 2017
« on: April 22, 2016, 11:51:35 AM »
I do not like the idea of reverse being accomplished by simply pushing the throttle forward while stopped.
Imagine if you come up to a stop light and get stuck for a while so you sit back a bit and crack your fingers then when it finally goes green you quickly reach forward, twist it the wrong way and crash into the car behind you. It should definitely be at least a 2 step process...maybe even more 1) Full stop, 2) Hold reversing button for 2 seconds, 3) Twist throttle. Having a lengthy process like that makes it difficult to activate it accidentally and how often do you need to go into reverse immediately?

Zero should definitely reintroduce DCQC, Tesla SC, ChaDeMo, CCS, it doesn't matter, but it needs to be available. Maybe even offer the adapters as a loan, like You're charged the full price for a new one from your dealer, and can walk out with it, then when you return it you get all but $20 back unless you buy one and you get a brand new one...basically meaning a free rental if you buy afterwards. That way people can know which chargers they can use and which they can't.

Larger battery would be nice, but I wouldn't expect much improvement, if any.

I think the biggest thing is price. You can get a used Leaf for less than a used Zero S with the large battery, that's a tough sell particularly given the limited usability of a motorcycle versus a car.

Aerodynamics are fairly cheap all things considered, but Zero is probably avoiding them just for the cost savings, however it should certainly be available.

Lighting changes are minor so if people voice their desire for it, LED could come around for next year.

Charging updates would be great, but as it stands they expect the average person to use the bike for daily commuting rather than long distance so a larger battery is more important to them than faster charging (easier round trip for long distancds and always charged overnight).

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Unexpected expense
« on: April 22, 2016, 10:54:54 AM »
As said before, the majority of the expense is simply accessing the outlets and running the lines, so while he's there and doing it, tell him to run a 50 amp (or even 100 amp if you ever think you'll get a Tesla) 240 outlet along with the two 20 amp outlet(s) for the Zero.

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Buy Sell Trade / Re: 2012 S ZF6 San Diego $5100 Loaded
« on: November 16, 2015, 05:00:46 AM »
What might you be looking to get for the 2013 DS?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2015 Zeros
« on: November 02, 2015, 08:23:15 AM »
It's interesting to read through this again and see all of what we said Zero should do, offer a DSR, a supermoto version of the FX, a charger in place of the powertank...none came around for the year we wanted them for, but the next year's lineup, it's all there. So now, what are the objectives for 2017?

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Buy Sell Trade / Re: A few 2013 bikes on Ebay 2 DS and one XU
« on: November 02, 2015, 05:07:51 AM »
I came across the eBay ads without the post, and was almost hoping no one would bid then offer something outside of eBay...they are being seen and bid on, so that won't happen.

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Buy Sell Trade / Re: WTB Zero J1772 adapter
« on: November 02, 2015, 05:04:33 AM »
Here's Zero's offering: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_5&products_id=122&zenid=1j2ak24gdogmlhc290bdgncug7

As Electronpusher said, you can make your own, but I would recommend buying a production item not because it's a terribly difficult item to make, but just for warranty purposes.

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If you don't buy the used sr...might you pass on the contact info to me?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Zero ChaDeMo modification?
« on: March 15, 2015, 10:30:07 PM »
I have an all electric car that never came with the option for ChaDeMo, but I would really like to have it.
I have not found anywhere that has a "box" that we you can program to a voltage and amperage then connect to the car and ChaDeMo to charge, but I'm wondering if Zero's ChaDeMo charge could be "relatively easily" modified to charge a Pack that will peak around 364V and could handle 100+ amps continuous.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2015 Zeros
« on: August 05, 2014, 08:50:58 AM »
By inverter/rectifier, do you mean using a step up (or step down) transformer then rectifying the ac current into dc?
There are so many problems with that...I have a 1976 Citicar which has that very setup for a charger. First off, if you charge it even in the cold, the interior gets very warm (with the plastic sheets of windows installed of course). If it heats the interior of an awfully insulated car, it would quickly overheat in a compact area of a motorcycle. Also, it is inherently much heavier than an "intelligent" charger (circuit based) which obviously is not ideal for a motorcycle. Finally the charger is limited to only one voltage and one current, the current flowing is based on the resistance of the circuit and it can't be (easily) changed for when a 15 amp circuit is available or a 30 amp circuit or 240 volts verses 120 volts. It is a very restrictive and highly outdated charging type.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2015 Zeros
« on: August 04, 2014, 09:46:22 AM »
It's been said before, but I'll say it again.
A properly integrated charging system that works with the standard public system, for me, that means primarily a fully integrated 6.6kw J1772 charger. Not an external charging system that can connect between them, a plug on the bike that allows the user to charge the same as any other car (obviously 120V is also a requirement). Let's be honest, how often do you discharge your bike's battery terribly far? How many actually have (and use) the powertank? With the zf11.4, you have a 70 mile range (their rating for 70mph highway) so if you take a longer than average commute of 55 miles, you've discharged just over 75% of the available capacity. I'm assuming they list the capacity that is turntable obtainable as the nominal capacity, but I'll make the point with both ways. 75% of 10kwh would be 7.5kwh, and of 11.4kwh would be 8.55kwh, on the standard 6.6kw charger available for cars, you would have a 70 or 80 minute recharge time. That is just under a 1c charge rate which is truly the ideal charge rate, but batteries can tolerate a bit more. How often would that extra 40 minutes make that much of a difference, and if it's so significant, then why should you make that other car charge is 25-30kwh battery on the 6.6kw charger rather than letting it utilize the full potential of the dcqc?
So the short of all of that, all the Zero needs is to utilize the J1772 and Zero can (for the time being) disregard Chademo.
Range increase is always nice, but I think that for most of us, it's highly unnecessary and not worth the price jump.
ABS is good and bad, there's a large cost, and it's something else to break, but it does make a safer ride.
I fully agree, a DSR, the S has the power option, why shouldn't the DS?

I am currently looking at getting a car from the bankruptcy sale of a California based bankrupt electric car company, but if not, I'll be getting a Zero then the question sits as to whether to get a 2 year old leftover that was never used or wait for the 2015 Zero lineup.

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