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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:23:59 PM »
Thank you very much trikester for the email. I appreciate it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 21, 2014, 05:56:10 PM »
Despite all my efforts I couldn't yet find info about the diameter of the 75-7 and 75-5 motors. Does anyone have specs about them? Or can anyone please go ahead and meter them? I need specs to see how they will fit into the housing I want them to fit. Anyone?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 18, 2014, 01:40:07 AM »
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By the way what exactly are the diameters for the different models? And are there 2 or three models of it. Like 33Kw, 40Kw and 50Kw

As of 2013, I have seen only two size drawings for the motors. The 75-5 & 75-7 have different dims. I don't know if another physical size was added in 2014.

It was confusing when I first got my Powertrain kit because the drawing I had for the motor turned out to be the 75-7 and the motor I got was a 75-5 (which is what I had ordered). Fortunately, having the actual motor in hand, I machined the correct mountings. So glad I wasn't working from the drawing but then I had the task of getting dims directly off of the motor (not always easy on a round object). Everything worked out OK.

Trikester

So is there a noticable difference between the diameters of the motors or is it just the location of the mounting holes?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 10:32:14 PM »
There are four motor/controller configurations sold by Zero (2013-2014) from 2 different motors and 3 different motor controllers.

75-5 and Gen 4 Size 2 controller, 21 kW (2013 XU)
75-5 and Gen 4 Size 4 controller, 33 kW (2013-2014 FX)
75-7 and Gen 4 Size 4 controller, 40 kW (2013 MX, 2013-2014 S/DS)
75-7 and Gen 4 Size 6 controller, 50 kW (2014 SR)

For the X-series vehicles with up to two modular batteries, maximum power is reduced to 20 kW when operating with a single battery module.

Thank you for providing details. I think the later motors are better suited for anything as they are also sealed and waterproof. Many other motors have openings that can let raindrops and splashes in.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 08:26:09 PM »
A Max RPM number, and an efficiency chart would be nice to look at.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 08:21:23 PM »
I thought the ultralight guy was a Zero employee. Maybe I'm wrong?

The guy says Dale Kramer discovered the motor for them. A very tempting motor for aviation use, as it is air cooled. Although a bit heavy with 13,6kg (40Kw) and could have a smaller diameter (from the looks). By the way what exactly are the diameters for the different models? And are there 2 or three models of it. Like 33Kw, 40Kw and 50Kw ?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 12:02:16 PM »
I bought the 2013 Zero FX/MX drive train for converting my hombuilt trike from gas to electric but that was when Zero first started selling the "Zero Powertrain". Shortly after that they decided to not sell to individuals anymore, only to OEM customers.  :'(

I think the company lawyers got concerned about the guys who were building electric ultralight aircraft and electric self launching sailplanes.

BTW - If you are newer here, I posted the progress of that e-trike project on this forum.

Trikester

I have seen your video, electric is the best way to freely explore the World. As I hate to leave behind trails of emission and sound, and even a trail on the ground. I have also seen the video of the guy who used the Zero drivetrain on his ultralight. Amazing prospects, really.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 01:53:57 AM »
Hey guys, I don't know of a better thread to ask a question about Z-Force motors. Do I stand a chance of sourcing some Zero motors or the whole drive train for a project of my own? I live in Eastern Europe. Any ideas? I know they are produced in China by Motenergy.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 17, 2014, 12:43:24 AM »
20x faster charging than Li-ion - A 10 Kwh battery is 100% charged in 5 minutes
Energy density comparable to state of the art Li-ion
Long lifetime of 3,000 charge/discharge cycles (Li-ion's life is closer to 1,000 cycles)
Ability to discharge fully without the risk of short-circuiting and damaging the battery
Doesn't heat up, so it wouldn't require extensive cooling
More powerful than other batteries, operating at over four volts

Manufacturing costs that are equal to or lower than Li-ion
Very safe, reliable, and environmentally sustainable
Fully recyclable

it is another revolution coming up

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 16, 2014, 11:54:15 PM »
Big promises. Needs some third party validation - and even that as we saw with Envia doesn't guarantee the technology will make it to production and be cost-effective.

Don't expect to see this in our 2015 bikes.

So, do we just hybernate until after 2015?  :D

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: 2014 or 2015?
« on: June 16, 2014, 07:53:40 PM »
Hi guys,

Below is a link to a new battery technology that I think will change the game once and for all and put a grin on everyones face.

http://powerjapanplus.com/


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