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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: What's it worth
« on: December 09, 2014, 03:24:15 AM »
I sold my SR for $14.5k w/ around 6k miles on it.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Ordered 2014 Zero SR, serious issues with delivery
« on: September 25, 2014, 04:24:23 AM »
Sorry to hear this. I put down a deposit of $1000 on a Zero SR on February 27th, and my bike didn't arrive until May 10th. This was after the bike had been "scheduled" to leave Zero's factory on April 16th. Fortunately I didn't actually have to hand over the cheque until I went in and picked up the bike, so I hadn't yet paid in full for it.
Anyway, with anything like this it's really hard to control your excitement when presented with what seems to be concrete dates on shipment, etc. And even worse that the bike actually did arrive, but the shipping company tossed it around so much.
Really hope things get sorted out soon so you can give your new bike a nice ride before it gets too cold. All I know is this - despite tons of delays and waiting 2 1/2 months for my bike to finally come, the first ride home on it was unforgettable and made it all worth it. And it's not like a roller coaster that ends after a few short minutes. It's all yours, there whenever you want to take it for a spin
Anyway, with anything like this it's really hard to control your excitement when presented with what seems to be concrete dates on shipment, etc. And even worse that the bike actually did arrive, but the shipping company tossed it around so much.
Really hope things get sorted out soon so you can give your new bike a nice ride before it gets too cold. All I know is this - despite tons of delays and waiting 2 1/2 months for my bike to finally come, the first ride home on it was unforgettable and made it all worth it. And it's not like a roller coaster that ends after a few short minutes. It's all yours, there whenever you want to take it for a spin
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Waht the heck is this tool? Also, loose mirror.
« on: September 13, 2014, 03:10:42 AM »
I thought the tool was to loosen my tight mirror but the pegs ended up snapping off after not much force... it must just work the other way around 
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Maximum Efficiency at what Speed?
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:06:18 AM »
If you want absolute distance then pretty much the slower you go, the better. But as noted above, it gets a bit boring cruising along at 20mph for an hour or more.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Purchase price from a dealer
« on: August 14, 2014, 04:28:55 AM »
I also paid full retail. Before buying, I looked around a lot (as you are) and found that it's not common to negotiate prices on new bikes, especially if they're not ones that have been sitting around for a while. My local dealer has some 2013 DS bikes left over from last year (the demo models), and I'm sure there is some haggle room on those.
I did, however, ask my dealer after if I could get a break on some gear so they gave me a lifetime 10% discount on any gear I purchase through them. They're not always the cheapest, but still makes it nicer to be able to try and buy instead of having to wait for it to ship from some faceless website.
I did, however, ask my dealer after if I could get a break on some gear so they gave me a lifetime 10% discount on any gear I purchase through them. They're not always the cheapest, but still makes it nicer to be able to try and buy instead of having to wait for it to ship from some faceless website.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: my new SR will get delivered this Wednesday,
« on: July 30, 2014, 12:37:34 AM »If you ride conservatively and use the regen to brake as you suggested with lightly pressing the brake lever, I see a difference. Wind is a big factor too. My SR seems to go forever if I keep it under 40 mph and conciously use brake regen.
I typically have remaining range showing on my dash. I ride pretty much only city (live and work in the city). I did a couple days of extremely gentle riding - slow acceleration and not exceeding 35mph. When I woke up one morning and pulled my bike out of the garage, the remaining range said 315km (191 miles). This weekend I had to head out of town on the highway and returned home with 50% battery and an estimated range remaining of 65km (39 miles).
Just as you say, speed and wind make a significant difference
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Best way to record 0-60, 30-60 times?
« on: July 05, 2014, 01:50:41 AM »The actual 0-100km/h time i recorded with my Zero S 2012.5 is 6.2 sec. and 16.23 sec 1/4 mile This was with a simple apps that is using the gps and accelerometer together.
It also give you a graph of the acceleration.
Doc
Which app did you use? I'd be very interested to know! I tried to go to the hardware store yesterday after taking a joyride but they were closed
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Best way to record 0-60, 30-60 times?
« on: July 01, 2014, 08:17:52 AM »
Excellent, thanks for the suggestions guys. If I'm gonna do it I may as well do it right, so attaching a stopwatch is probably the way to go! That way I can get 30-60 times as well to get a better sense of the practical value of the 25T sprocket over the 30T sprocket (in the SR).
Time to make a quick run to the hardware store...
That way I can get 30-60 times as well to get a better sense of the practical value of the 25T sprocket over the 30T sprocket (in the SR).Time to make a quick run to the hardware store...
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Best way to record 0-60, 30-60 times?
« on: June 29, 2014, 01:41:18 PM »
I remember reading another thread about someone asking whether anyone had tested the 0-60 time on the new Zero bikes.
I have an SR, and bought the 25 tooth sprocket ("high torque gearing option") which I have yet to install. I'm curious to get a bunch of recordings of the performance, with various SOCs, before I swap it out so that I have a benchmark and also some additional information that might be of interest to others considering swapping out the sprocket.
What's the best way to measure these times? I downloaded a couple of apps for my iPhone that supposedly use the accelerometer and GPS sensor to record acceleration, but they don't seem to be very reliable, especially the GPS where there are trees (which is all over Vancouver).
My current thought is just to affix my phone to the handlebars and point it at my dash, then just play back the footage later and count the frames. Has anyone found an app or cheap tool that allows you to accurately track acceleration?
I have an SR, and bought the 25 tooth sprocket ("high torque gearing option") which I have yet to install. I'm curious to get a bunch of recordings of the performance, with various SOCs, before I swap it out so that I have a benchmark and also some additional information that might be of interest to others considering swapping out the sprocket.
What's the best way to measure these times? I downloaded a couple of apps for my iPhone that supposedly use the accelerometer and GPS sensor to record acceleration, but they don't seem to be very reliable, especially the GPS where there are trees (which is all over Vancouver).
My current thought is just to affix my phone to the handlebars and point it at my dash, then just play back the footage later and count the frames. Has anyone found an app or cheap tool that allows you to accurately track acceleration?
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New garage setup
« on: June 03, 2014, 03:01:14 AM »
I guess I left out a core piece of information that will make everything a little more clear.
The place we moved into is a teardown that is doing to be ripped down in a year or so, as the whole block has been rezoned from single family dwellings to low-rise apartments. The previous owner sold it to a land acquisition company, and they were looking for tenants for a fixed-term lease. They offered a killer deal, with the place being about $1500/month for what would normally cost probably around $2600-2800/month, since there isn't really an option to extend the lease. Seemed like a great deal to us. The new property agent said he doesn't really care what we do with the place, so we've got full reign to basically play around with whatever we want until the city grants approval for the demolition (approx. 1 year).
That hopefully explains why we're not keeping a 240V around and why it's probably not to code either!
Next on the list is a garage door opener remote. I think I'll probably find a place somewhere under the dash to secure this so that I don't have to dance around locking the door and closing the garage.
The place we moved into is a teardown that is doing to be ripped down in a year or so, as the whole block has been rezoned from single family dwellings to low-rise apartments. The previous owner sold it to a land acquisition company, and they were looking for tenants for a fixed-term lease. They offered a killer deal, with the place being about $1500/month for what would normally cost probably around $2600-2800/month, since there isn't really an option to extend the lease. Seemed like a great deal to us. The new property agent said he doesn't really care what we do with the place, so we've got full reign to basically play around with whatever we want until the city grants approval for the demolition (approx. 1 year).
That hopefully explains why we're not keeping a 240V around and why it's probably not to code either!
Next on the list is a garage door opener remote. I think I'll probably find a place somewhere under the dash to secure this so that I don't have to dance around locking the door and closing the garage.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / New garage setup
« on: June 01, 2014, 12:35:03 PM »
Well, I started moving into a new place a few weeks ago, and am finally now getting settled more. Previously I've been parking my bike in the garage and plugging it into the same outlet that the garage door is plugged into. The wiring was a bit hazy, so I was definitely in the market for something custom (and cheap!).
The previous owner had installed a 240V dryer outlet outside, where he apparently had a washer and dryer for the upstairs suite. Since he'd taken the appliances, we had a spare 30A 240V outlet, with wiring that ran past the garage and onto the patio.
I spent a bit of time with my brother figuring things out (he did a lot of the work, thankfully, though he definitely has more experience than myself!), then headed to Home Depot today to get a few parts.
We started out by flipping the breaker, just to prevent any potential mishaps. Next, we disconnected the wire from the dryer receptacle on the patio and ran the wire straight into the garage. From there, we installed a new electrical box and connected the wire to the receptacles. The wire running to the dryer receptacle was 10/4, and while that's really thick and caused some frustration in installation, we decided against replacing the wire - too much trouble and too much money for little benefit.
From there, we connected ground to both, daisy-chained the neutral and connected a hot wire to each one. Then we finished off with a nice $1.37 faceplate to make it look pretty.
All in all the cost to do this was just under $15, and now we've got side-by-side receptacles each on their own 15A circuit, which means my bike can have it's own receptacle for charging, I can get a quick charger and plug it in right beside the regular charger, and we've got plenty of power in the garage should we need to use the pressure washer, air compressor, etc. without worrying about tripping the breaker.
It's not the prettiest setup, that much I will admit, but it's definitely practical!
The previous owner had installed a 240V dryer outlet outside, where he apparently had a washer and dryer for the upstairs suite. Since he'd taken the appliances, we had a spare 30A 240V outlet, with wiring that ran past the garage and onto the patio.
I spent a bit of time with my brother figuring things out (he did a lot of the work, thankfully, though he definitely has more experience than myself!), then headed to Home Depot today to get a few parts.
We started out by flipping the breaker, just to prevent any potential mishaps. Next, we disconnected the wire from the dryer receptacle on the patio and ran the wire straight into the garage. From there, we installed a new electrical box and connected the wire to the receptacles. The wire running to the dryer receptacle was 10/4, and while that's really thick and caused some frustration in installation, we decided against replacing the wire - too much trouble and too much money for little benefit.
From there, we connected ground to both, daisy-chained the neutral and connected a hot wire to each one. Then we finished off with a nice $1.37 faceplate to make it look pretty.
All in all the cost to do this was just under $15, and now we've got side-by-side receptacles each on their own 15A circuit, which means my bike can have it's own receptacle for charging, I can get a quick charger and plug it in right beside the regular charger, and we've got plenty of power in the garage should we need to use the pressure washer, air compressor, etc. without worrying about tripping the breaker.
It's not the prettiest setup, that much I will admit, but it's definitely practical!
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: GPS tracker on 2014 Zero?
« on: May 27, 2014, 03:45:02 AM »
Excellent, thanks for the reply! I'll take a closer look into this. I hope one day GPS is included by default in Zero bikes (ideally accessible through the app) so you can turn tracking on and locate your bike just like you can locate your iPhone, etc.
I'm heading down to LA in a couple of weeks, so I may also stop by Hollywood Electrics (seems to be pretty popular among these parts!) and see what they have to say. Presumably they've done plenty of mods for Zero bikes, so it should be a good learning experience
I'm heading down to LA in a couple of weeks, so I may also stop by Hollywood Electrics (seems to be pretty popular among these parts!) and see what they have to say. Presumably they've done plenty of mods for Zero bikes, so it should be a good learning experience
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Got my SR today!
« on: May 27, 2014, 03:28:19 AM »What is great about those electric bikes is that you can always run with maximum throttle and nobody will be bothered and the bike has no problem doing it all the time hehe
Oh so true
In fact, I'd go so far as to say the following:
1) Full throttle on a gas bike and everyone around is annoyed at you
2) Full throttle on a Zero and everyone around is immediately curious about what just happened and why there was no sound.
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Noob with questions.
« on: May 24, 2014, 12:01:10 AM »Am I too big for this bike? Should I expect any noticeable reduction in performance(range or speed) due to my weight?
Is there any negotiating in price with these bikes, or should I pretty much expect to pay the retail sticker price?
I don't have experience on an S/DS, but I can tell you my experience on my SR. When I'm on my own (I'm about 215, 6'2"), the bike is really quick. When I add another person on (say my brother, so +200lbs), the bike is noticeably slower. However, I would never say that the bike is slow with the added weight. Top speed shouldn't really be affected, since it's mostly air displacement at that point, but 0-60 on my SR with an extra 200lbs is probably a second or so slower.
On the price, I'm not sure there is much haggling room at all on the 2014 bikes, however I was able to get a deal on gear that I purchased so they're not totally inflexible. I'm sure you can get a much better deal on 2012/2013 bikes, since they probably want to move old stock.