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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 05, 2012, 09:18:41 PM »
I would imagine any Android or iOS device would suffice; smartphone, mp3 player, or tablet.

I have one of the new 7 inch Google Nexus 7 tablets and it is pretty nice for $200. I paid more for the AccessPort that I use to tune my subaru and that is a single purpose device.

There is also the new Kindle Fire HD tablet at the same price point, and the Kindle Fire HD 8.9" is coming out before the 2013 Zero lineup for $299 if you think something a little bigger would be more useful.

...maybe Zero is keen to the idea of partnering with Google or Amazon to bundle one of their budget tablets with the motorcycles for this purpose with the tuning app pre-loaded...and while the ideas are flowing how about they just scrap the guage cluseter completely and mount one of these tablets in it's place :D with weatherproof casing of course.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 05, 2012, 07:02:32 PM »
I recieved a response from Zero about what can be done with the smartphone app, and I specifically asked about the FX model:

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Regarding the smartphone app you will be able to limit top speed and configure how torque comes on as well as modes of regenerative braking.  With all of these new features I would take a fairly educated guess that by your estimate of the FX being on the edge of the range you will easily be able to reach your destination by mapping your eco mode for a lower top speed and torque and rate of regeneration.

I would imagine the hard switch is probably still there (I need to look at the pictures more closely), but the settings are now configurable for the modes through the app. The convenience/safety of being able to switch modes on-the-fly would be negated if you had to pull your smartphone out to do it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 05, 2012, 01:44:33 AM »
I wonder if it would it be feasible to charge the battery modules for the FX at a desk on the second floor of an office?

The ZF-2.8 power pack should be about 42 lbs or so (FX-5.7 weight 275 lb, FX-2.8 233 lb), as long as you can bring that with you to the 2nd floor why not?

I think I have almost made up my mind on the FX, just need a little more info on if the power can be dialed down when two packs are in use to improve range.

I just sent an inquiry directly to Zero through their 2013 models page.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 04, 2012, 02:10:06 AM »
I wonder if it would it be feasible to charge the battery modules for the FX at a desk on the second floor of an office?

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Did anyone else get it?

Pretty interesting insight into where they see themselves headed in the future...

At the more optimistic end of the scale:
120 mph top speed
180 mi combined range per charge
4.5 second 0-60
<30 min for empty to 95% charging

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 03, 2012, 02:47:44 AM »
Sorry to go against the grain, but I don't see much change here.

Almost double the power
~50% more energy
Standard wheel sizes
Better aesthetics
J1772 and Chademo charging

  • Smartphone interfacing

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2013 Zero lineup
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:06:04 PM »
It stinks that there is little to no state incentive to buy electric where I live...but these still seem worth it to me. Time to start planning when, where, and how I am going to get one of these, and which one  ;D

www.zeromotorcycles.com/2013

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: Jalopnik Brammo Review
« on: August 31, 2012, 11:59:32 PM »
It is nice to see that the highlights that this rider found in the Empulse were for the most part shared with what I have read in reviews and impressions of the Zero bikes, minus the 'tie fighter' whine.

Overall, it makes me anxious to see what Zero has in store for us in the coming months.

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I wonder how something like the forty2 would work for charging a Zero? I also wonder how it manages loss and if the ~180-200 watts solar is effective through the outlets or if the same losses as discussed here bring it down to a much lower number?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1408708524/the-forty2?ref=live

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2012 and older / Re: Zero appoints a new CEO
« on: July 31, 2012, 11:01:23 PM »
I think Mr. Walker is a good fit for two big reasons:

1. Agility, due to the similarity in pace of change between computer technology and EV technology there should be no suprises for him.

2. Familiarity with sourcing (in or out) computer components in high volume.

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Good news for Zero

...bad news for someone like me trying to hold out for info on the 2013 models.

Don't know if I will make it :)

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General Discussion / Re: Why I like electric motorcycles
« on: April 25, 2012, 06:52:00 PM »
For noise, just put a card up against the wheel spokes  :P

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I am absorbing tons of info about the Zero bikes reading these forums, thanks to everyone for the great questions and answers!

Back to topic, I have a question that is in line with the resale subject.

What is the upgradability like for these bikes? Is there any way to "bolt-on" some of the new technology that improves range onto one of the older bikes at a reduced cost? It would seem that this is probably something that could help with resale value assuming that the computer/battery/motor could be interchangable and that the rest of the bike holds value as a platform for future range improvements.

I have figured that it would take me approximately 80,000 miles when fuel is above $3.50/gal to leverage the savings on gasoline into the cost of the bike when compared to my current vehicle.

I am looking at the DS ZF9 for commuting on a 60 mile (mostly city) round trip and it would be great if there were a cost-effective way to improve the range a few years down the road as it seems the real-world tests would put me awfully close to the limits on this bike if I were not to charge while at work. I am confident enough in it to give it a shot as it stands, and find a way to charge at work if necessary, but it would be nice to be able to buy a little peace of mind in a few years without having to buy a new bike before the previous one has leveraged its value.

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