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Tech Help / 2019 FXS precharge failure, help wanted
« on: October 31, 2023, 03:23:04 AM »
TL:DR - why would a 2019 FXS fail to precharge/close the contactor, and how do I fix this?

Long version:
I put a gen 4 size 6 controller and a 75-7 motor on my 2019 FXS and have been fiddling with the config files in DVT on the controller to get it to run right (with some helpful guidance).  I tried a new firmware and .dcf file on the controller last week, and immediately after what I thought was a successful update to the controller (DVT said the .dld load was complete and then I uploaded the .dcf without any abnormal occurrences), the bike ceased being able to precharge and hence, won't close the contactor.  Plugging into the onboard charger will not charge either.

I subsequently switched to my stock gen4 size4 controller with essentially stock config settings, and the first time I keyed on the bike, it precharged and the contactor closed!  After a few seconds though of me trying to adjust the settings in DVT on my size 4 controller, DVT said the controller had disconnected, and all subsequent attempts to key on the bike fail to precharge or close the contactor, with either controller.  I also am consistently getting errors 25, 27, 48 and 49 on the dash. 

When keyed on, the bike initially would blink the green circle on the dash, then add a constant check engine light, sit there for a while blinking the green light trying to precharge, and then give up and sleep after 15 seconds or so.  However, after trying that a few times, the bike has started to sleep much more quickly, after ~5 seconds.  I cannot access the bike/battery logs, as the bike sleeps way too quickly to extract anything over the app.

Checked all three high voltage fuses (but not the 100A one) and they are good.  Reset the BMS, no improvement.  I'm thinking about resetting the MBB as the next step.

Few questions:
I ordered a TTL to USB and a OBD2 connector to hopefully communicate with the MBB as per the unofficial manual (https://zeromanual.com/wiki/How_to_build_a_cable_to_access_the_MBB).  Will the MBB respond in this situation? 

Will resetting the MBB mess anything else important up?

Any other ideas?

Just want to get my bike up and running again in some form. 
Thanks!!

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Fixed it, it was just the 10A fuse holder as well.  Cleaned it out as above. Dang, easy fix!  Hopefully it stays fixed!

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I don’t remember ever saying i had burnt wiring?  Wiring all looks good.  I just tried a different onboard charger unit and it did the same thing, green light blinks 6-8 times, check engine light comes on, and nothing charges.  I’m gonna mess with the 10A fuse some more and see what happens.  Problem is, i also swapped out the controller for the larger size 6 one and the motor for the larger 75-7 one.  Anyone know if the controller settings can mess with charging?  I tried to set most applicable settings to the same settings as my stock controller..  I’m probably getting pretty far out in the weeds with people’s knowledge of the sevcon on that.

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Yeah, the wiser side of me is saying the same thing.  But honestly I’m confused because if the fuse is not making contact, the bike will not even key on.  So is the problem that it is just getting very intermittent contact?  My aux charger showed 99.1v keyed on, so the 100A fuse must be good, the 10A charge fuse is not broken, and when i remove that fuse the bike won’t even key on, so i know it’s gotta be making contact in the fuse holder.  I’m really wondering if my charger went bad on me.  Think I’ll order one and try it. 

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Having what sounds like the same issues as you guys posted here.  Auriga mentioned the possibility of just removing the fuse entirely.  Has anyone tried this?  If this fuse isn’t necessary, I’d rather eliminate a potential failure point….

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