ElectricMotorcycleForum.com

  • September 01, 2026, 11:40:28 PM
  • Welcome, Guest
Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Electric Motorcycle Forum is live!

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - weck

Pages: [1] 2 3
1
Energica / Re: Experia Bags
« on: January 07, 2025, 12:12:39 AM »
They are standard fare Givi cases and mounts.

Mine were also a bit stiff to get on and off at first.  One of the side case lock cores was also binding up a little, needed to hit them with some spray.  I've had mine off/on dozens of times now, they'll loosen up.

Also, you can ride two up with the cases on, I do it all the time.

2
Energica / Re: FW version 43
« on: June 14, 2024, 10:51:52 PM »
I picked up my Experia yesterday and rode it back to Reno from Auburn, CA the same day.


If version 43 is supposed to fix any of my bugs, it didn't in my Experia.


In the 99-mile ride back, I still experienced several bugs I had in the past.


First bug yesterday with V 43:


I use reverse to get out of my garage. Goes a few feet and then motor dies with the same old "undefined faut-contact service".

2nd Bug:
Then I reboot, start to head to Reno. I get the "FOB out of range" message in less than a half mile.


Again around 20 miles up the freeway.


The I take a break at the Truckee, CA airport as I get a free charge.


I stop the AC charge after I gain 10% SOC (nice long break).


I use reverse again. Same problem "undefined fault". Then need to turn the bike off and on again. Next time reverse okay, no fault.

3rd bug:
Now back on the freeway. About two miles up it, my screen says that "The charging cable may now be removed".


If version 43 is supposed to fix any bugs, it didn't on my Experia.


I have not yet tried a fast charger since v 43, but perhaps that will be the only thing it does better.


But so far, I am disappointed with version 43 as it fixed none of my bugs.


Is V43 only supposed to improve charging? Has no bug fixes?


-Don-  Reno, NV

I finally got the undefined fault when going into reverse yesterday.  I think I had the throttle slightly "open" when I went into low speed mode.  Off/on, worked fine since.  We'll see if it happens again.

3
Energica / Re: Regen Question
« on: June 05, 2024, 10:55:22 PM »
that's kind of funny weck, I did that a few times taking it out after a full charge and it's at 100 percent.  Another time I got a bit of a startle was after running the race bike for 4 days straight, I got used to that and the stupid insane brakes on that, where you just gently bring them on and you stop NOW!  Then I get on the road bike and im stopping and it's like oh what the hell?  stop STOP !!  oh, this is the Ribelle, you gotta pull the brakes hard here :)   This is also one of the reasons I want to try to make the street and race bike as similar as possible so there are not these differences when I hope between them.  Besides, nothing wrong with having strong brakes anywhere,  it's the weaker ones that make you get grey hair!

Aaron

Odd thing, on the Experia anyway, is that the regen does not seem to be decreased al all when you charge to 100%.  I've had a couple times where I think I got may have got over 100, or at least it took a good 4-5 miles for the SOC to drop to 99%.  Even then, had max regen available from the end of the driveway.  Wonder if it's because the pack has over a KW of headspace in it rated vs usable?

(I only charge to 100% the recommended once a month and make sure I have a log ride planned within a couple of hours of topping it off)

4
Energica / Re: Regen Question
« on: June 03, 2024, 10:50:45 PM »
Leave it to DT to bring a car to a bike forum  ::)

If you want your regen less sensitive, then turn the setting down a notch or two, you have several settings to control it's max already.

If you are cruising, then yah i'd just turn it off, because you at that point, are not really changing speeds much to begin with (until the cars get in your way) and freewheeling of course saves energy over braking, but if you need any kind of intentional slowdown, greater than just natural friction / air resistance etc, then regen is more efficient. 

I have not really seen this on my Ribelle, basically because Florida is pretty flat,  but Id assume if you were in a real hilly / mountainous area and peaked, coming down, you could use regen to control your speed and put some of that energy spent climbing up the mountain, back into the battery .vs. having to brake to control your speed descending.  At the end of the day though, the only energy you are recapturing is, the last acceleration / or last climb, whichever applies !

@Grauteufel  I think you make an excellent point.  Those who learned on ICE bikes, have it set in their minds, THAT is the way to ride, and the regen is a whole DIFFERENT idea to them, and just like anything else, learning something different, can sometimes be harder than learning something new, because you keep trying to compare it to what you believe you already know.  Those who learned ON the electric bike though, learned from the beginning how to use it and it's pretty much muscle memory now and they don't even think much on it anymore, just do it.  Im finding this when I let people try my bike, with full regen, and they are like holy shit that's strong, Ill tell them, think of it as your rear brake, it takes a little getting used to but use the throttle to manip it, not just on - off like you are used to along with the clutch,  and once you DO master that, it's a very powerful tool IMO.

Im trying to imagine a paddle on the bike, ok so you are fiddling with a regen paddle, you still will need to remove throttle if you are regen / braking right? , so it's basically another input to manage.  If you want to load up into a turn of something, then rear brake it.... or regen it, because you are STILL under power and the ratio you need, is pretty much preset by the nature of the way it works!

Maybe im missing something, would there be any reason you'd want to regen while keeping the same throttle power on?  If it's for power braking, then why  not just use the rear brake which you are already used to?

Aaron

I learned on an ICE bike and have been riding them for 30 years prior to getting the Experia.  Probably similar story to many, as these things ain't exactly cheap so you tend to need to have a few miles on the personal odometer before you can afford one...  anyway, I think it took me about a hour to get smooth with max regen and one "pedal" driving the Experia, to the point where I don't use the brakes much at all in round town riding, only when getting on it in the twisties.

When I picked up my bike from the firmware update, I didn't bother to check the settings and it had reverted to the lowest regen; coming up to the first stop from speed was like a "no brakes" experience.


5
Energica / Re: Experia CenterStand
« on: May 31, 2024, 10:42:19 PM »
when I saw that filipacci dot com had them listed in stock a couple weeks ago (not sure if accurate...) I asked my dealer and they were able to order me one.  They said it being available to order was a good sign, as it had not been for a while.  Whether I get one... who knows.  I don't have any money down, so whatever.

Fall back is I'll have one custom fabricated.  Only concern there is if something happens and the mounting bosses get damaged, I'm SOL as far as warranty of not a factory accessory.

6
Energica / Re: Magic Charging--Experia Style!!!
« on: May 29, 2024, 09:58:58 PM »
5 min to charge 48% is quite ambitious.
Especially at a charge rate of 3KW. I just wish that were true.


My Experica has the new 43 FW, but it has more bugs now instead of less.


But nothing that takes away from the ride. All the bugs are with what is says on my display, except for the reverse issue (see below).


I still have all the older bugs such as "key not in range" and "bike is off, turn on to continue" as I am going down the freeway. Also, on the freeway "you may now remove the charging cable".  Also, sometimes in reverse, motor will die with an "undefined fault".


Since my FW update to 43, there has been a couple of new bugs.


One new bug was today during a 250-mile ride. I noticed my screen said I was at 64% SOC for 25 miles or so until I stopped and restarted the bike. Also, I had regen, but no regen indication from the line that normally goes down to show regen,  Also, no power indication, no line going up. No line at all. But the bike was running fine.


And when I got home, the "magic charging", Experia style, where it says I can charge at 3 KW and gain 48% SOC in five minutes.


FWIW, my Esse Esse 9 has no bugs and I find that screen easier to use. It has the 42 update, as high as my 2020 can accept.


-Don-  Reno, NV

I had something similar happen after a fast charge session, range went up to something ridiculous and the SOC didn't move for the 80 mile trip home.  When I plugged it in, it was all confused on charging time and SOC.  Left it plugged in and it sorted itself out and recalibrated.  This was on the old firmware with the EXTIMATED charge, perhaps them fixing the spelling error gave it super charging powers...

7
Energica / Re: FW version 43
« on: May 23, 2024, 11:33:35 PM »
I picked up my Experia yesterday and rode it back to Reno from Auburn, CA the same day.


If version 43 is supposed to fix any of my bugs, it didn't in my Experia.


In the 99-mile ride back, I still experienced several bugs I had in the past.


First bug yesterday with V 43:


I use reverse to get out of my garage. Goes a few feet and then motor dies with the same old "undefined faut-contact service".

2nd Bug:
Then I reboot, start to head to Reno. I get the "FOB out of range" message in less than a half mile.


Again around 20 miles up the freeway.


The I take a break at the Truckee, CA airport as I get a free charge.


I stop the AC charge after I gain 10% SOC (nice long break).


I use reverse again. Same problem "undefined fault". Then need to turn the bike off and on again. Next time reverse okay, no fault.

3rd bug:
Now back on the freeway. About two miles up it, my screen says that "The charging cable may now be removed".


If version 43 is supposed to fix any bugs, it didn't on my Experia.


I have not yet tried a fast charger since v 43, but perhaps that will be the only thing it does better.


But so far, I am disappointed with version 43 as it fixed none of my bugs.


Is V43 only supposed to improve charging? Has no bug fixes?


-Don-  Reno, NV

Just had mine done this morning, then ran some errands on the way back, so a few key cycles.

No new issues with my Experia, reverse works fine.  Only new thing I noticed is the menu on the main screen seems to go from the only "settings/preferences/diagnostics" to "settings/handgrips" choices, not sure if its speed related or what causes it to change.  Obviously handgrips menu is new.  I haven't charged it yet to see how much "EXTIMATED" time it will take...  ::)

8
Energica / Re: A&S Roseville, CA
« on: May 20, 2024, 10:57:10 PM »
That's kind of funny, I was driving home from the race track today and someone was trailering 2 Experia's behind what looked like a converted like cargo van.  They were heading towards jax, but we were a ways out so they could have turned off at any spot to go elsewhere.  Really wish I knew where they were from as it'd be nice to find other E bikers around.

The charging does make it a pain for all the EV's, and the economy going to shit and talks of a world war / civil war absolutely are NOT helping any sales or service.

You mentioned going to a tesla type sales model, where you order it direct and kind of cut out the dealers but they will still need service, software updates, some warranty work, stuff like that.  Still going to need someone to do maintenance on them.   Tesla has shops all over to fix stuff don't they?  Energica not so much, and it's appearing the rest of the e bikers, not so much either anymore.

Hopefully things settle down soon because right now nobody can really afford big loans, the banks are NOT giving out loans to less than almost perfect people for what they essentially will consider to be a 'toy'.  and the ones who can afford them, have already got their toys or are running scared too to see what is going to happen.

All this shit, China war, EMP taking down the grid,frying your bike / car. bla bla woof...that shit adds up to drive people away.

Aaron

That was likely Rick and his wife, they picked up the first two Experias in the US at the CA HQ and rode them back to FL.  I know they have some sort of Sprinter for camping and trailer the bikes for destination riding.

https://www.instagram.com/energicamotorcompany/p/C4LYv1ggAqz/

9
Energica / Re: 20,000km Experia thoughts.
« on: March 14, 2024, 10:35:04 PM »
Thanks for the write up.  I have the same feeling about that horrendous stock seat.  How is the Corbin for standover compared to the factory seat?  I'm about your height but longer in the torso, so I cannot quite flat foot the bike stock in regular shoes, making it a bit of a handful parking.

The Corbin seat will have you sitting quite a bit taller than the stock OEM seat...I fear you may be worse off with the Corbin height wise....but it is a lot more "comfortable". I can just flat foot it with the Corbin but if your legs are a tad short, you'll struggle.

Smithy.

Thanks, i was afraid of that looking at the shape of it.   I'm thinking I'll need to pull the seat cover and try some different foam density in there, see if I can make it more comfortable with the stock shape and height.

10
Energica / Re: 20,000km Experia thoughts.
« on: March 13, 2024, 10:34:07 PM »
Hi All,

This is a fairly long post so please bear with me.

My Experia has just passed 20,000km this morning during my daily commute to work. I thought I'd put together a few thoughts on how it's going and my "long term" experience with the bike over the 13 months I have owned it.

I picked my Experia up from my dealer on the 17th of Feb 2023, VIN #029. It was the very first Experia to touch Australian soil. It had a grand total of 0.8km on it at the time and I rode it the ~150km from my dealer on the Gold Coast Queensland to my home north of Brisbane in Queensland, Australia, pretty much an uneventful ride, mostly 100kmh motorway. I was instantly impressed with how "smooth" the bike was compared to my BMW S1000XR, no vibrations at all...a revelation indeed. I felt the suspension was a little firm for my liking but since the bike was setup with stock settings I felt I'd "have a fiddle" with it after arriving home etc...

After a few weeks of riding the Experia and after "adjusting" the suspension to suit my weight and riding requirements, I'm 180cm tall & 75kg... I found the Experia very comforatable to ride and the suspension was plush and forgiving, the front springs are still a little firm for my liking but it works very well, notwithstanding the horrible stock seat which I never got along with...it felt as though I was sitting astride a log....it was very firm and uncomfortable for my skinny, boney ar$e. I looked around for an alternate seat but nothing was available for such a newly released motorcylce...This is where Rob Swartz from Energica of New England and Mike Corbin came to the rescue. I contacted Rob and he immediately set about organising for me to get the very first "customer" Corbin seat for the Experia....after a few minor niggles the "heated" seat was delivered to me in Australia less than 6 weeks after my initial contact...not bad considering the seat had not even been made when I had ordered one. Fit and quality are perfect and I find it much more comfortable than the OEM seat. Rob Swartz & Mike Corbin contacted me personally and kept in contact via email during the whole process....damn good customer service IMHO. 11 months later the seat is still giving me the perfect ride....firm but comfortable due to the custom contour advised by Mike Corbin.

Perfomance of the bike is outstanding considering it only has ~100hp, torque from a standstill is exceptional and it will out accelerate most bikes up to ~100kmh....you need a pretty handy liter bike to out accelerate it up to ~100kmh....certainly gives my "tuned" BMW S1000XR a damn good run for it's money....after that though, the BMW is gone.

I must admit I had a few issues with the "keyless" ignition system and was plagued with continuous "key not in range" faults during the first few months of ownership....it had me regretting getting the keyless option. After consultation with my dealer and through Energica, a new keyless module, sensor and FOB was delivered to my home straight from Energica....I'm pretty handy with the tools so fitting it was a no-brainer and my dealer principal Tobin Page from AEMC on the Gold Coast in Australia came to my house, a 300km round trip for him I might add, great service... and he did the .043 firmware update for me....no more issues and the bike has been faultless since.

I wasn't a fan of the Pirelli Scorpion-II tyres which came with the bike, it left me lacking confidence in corners... and I have now fitted a pair of Continental Road Attack-3 tyres....much more confidence inspring and I can now easily get to the edge of the tyre without worrying if it would let go on me. The Pirelli's would give me the occaisional hint that they we coming unstuck at generous lean angles and would often let go under even moderate acceleration throwing up the T/C light on the dash...no such thing is happening with the Conti's fitted, they're a great match for the bike.

I use the bike to mostly commute to work, 55km each way, and find I get a decent amount of range considering ~90% of my commute is 100kmh motorway...I can get to work and back twice and back to work on the 3rd day...so ~275km before I need to re-charge at my work...not bad to be totally honest. I also use the bike for the occasional weekend blast to my favorite riding and friends meeting place, it's ideal for that too. I don't have any CCS charging stations near where I live so I can't comment on how the local CCS charging infrastructure works.

Servicing of the Experia is a doddle, they only have 50ml of oil and no filter, so an oil change takes all of 15 minutes...which includes a nice cup of tea and a couple of biscuits. Chain, sprocket and brake maintenance is essentially the same as any other motorcycle...no issues there. I have fitted a new chain and sprockets at 12,700km as I found a couple of "tight links" in the original Regina chain, (I'm not a fan of Regina chains), I fitted new sprockets and a DID ZVMX 520 chain and it has been issue free since fitting. I went up 1 tooth on the front from 15t to 16t to get the speedo reading correctly, it's now within +/-1kmh now, so I'm well chuffed. Front sprocket is a 520 Aprillia Tuono item and the 520 52t aluminium rear sprocket is a Vortex item.

All in all I'm quite happy with my purchase of the Experia and my dealer has been very open and helpful...no complaints from me on that front....I'm still waiting for a center stand to turn up like many others...but I'm sure it will eventually turn up.

Thanks for reading and I'm happy to answer any questions if there are any.

Smithy.



 

Thanks for the write up.  I have the same feeling about that horrendous stock seat.  How is the Corbin for standover compared to the factory seat?  I'm about your height but longer in the torso, so I cannot quite flat foot the bike stock in regular shoes, making it a bit of a handful parking.

11
Energica / Re: Eva BugEye Headlight Conversion
« on: February 10, 2024, 12:58:59 AM »
weck, I have mine on the upper body of the shock and also tilted outward slightly to help illuminate the inside of turns better. I also have one spot and one flood lense installed.

I started with some lights with clamp mounts on the upper shock tubes, but there is not a lot of vertical room to clamp stuff between the fender and the fairing lower edge when the suspension is fully compressed.  If I mounted the lights low enough to clear the fairing, the inside edges of the clamp mounts would come in contact with the fender on heavy breaking. 

12
Energica / Re: Eva BugEye Headlight Conversion
« on: February 09, 2024, 12:38:15 AM »
Completely agree the stock Energica headlights suck. I have the Denali D2 light pods on my Ribelle and KTM SA 1290. They work well and have never had any issues with them. https://twistedthrottle.com/shop/lighting/auxiliary-lights/driving-lights/denali-d2-2-0-led-light-pod-with-datadim-technology-2/

Do you have any photos of the Denali lights on your Ribelle? I've been considering adding some selective yellow for visibility on the commute.

Not on a Ribelle but here's what I did on my Experia.  Longer stainless bolts, couple rubber washers, 3d printed some "tubes" and used the front fender mounting holes, with some locktight.  They have not budged over some pretty rough pavement and gravel.  3d printed a bracket to use the standard switch that comes with the Denali wiring kit. 

I mixed one flood and one spot lens.  Cars definitely see me now.


13
Energica / Re: Experia CenterStand
« on: February 08, 2024, 11:50:00 PM »
Cant a center stand from another similar bike be put on somehow?  I know other parts are somewhat interchangeable, a kick stand, essentially does not sound like such a 'model only' type of part.

If they are having issues getting them, I don't see why they can't just contract out with a local manufacturer in the USA to make the parts there,  here's a plan, make us some!  I know here in Florida there are many welding and other fab shops that do this very thing for real cheap too.  Just had a custom rack made for my trailer for the solar panels and it was only a few hundred bucks, metal / labor included.  If you were to order say 100 punched out or whatever components, I can't see it being stupid expensive.  While they may not make a ton of money off it, just the customer satisfaction aspect would be worth a ton more IMO.  or just contract with a 3rd party.  I know the NE Energica shop is coming out with a new suspension kit for them soon, so there ARE people who will do the R&D and do aftermarket stuff to support it.

Aaron

That's plan B... probably easier to have one fabbed versus trying to find a part from another bike that would work without having access to all the dimensions.  My dealer already suggested that option last year.  I

14
Energica / Re: Experia CenterStand
« on: February 08, 2024, 03:13:12 AM »
There is no such things as reliable answers when it comes to availability of ANYTHING related to Energica.
At least I can still see the center stand in the configurator.

Latest info is April 2024, reported by two different dealers in Germany. A third dealer (actually my local dealer) does not make a statement.

Interesting that the option is still in you market.  It's gone from the US site configurator, replaced with the Headstock stand and rear stand/bobbins options.  Fingers crossed eventually....

15
Energica / Re: Experia CenterStand
« on: February 08, 2024, 12:06:21 AM »
Thread bump.  Does anyone know if the Experia centerstand is ever going to come?  It's gone from the bike configurator on line now.

Anyone figure out an alternative?

Thx

Pages: [1] 2 3