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Great condition electric Zero Adventure Bike - ~5k miles on it.  Good for about 140 miles at back road speed, and 200 or so at off road speed.
OEM Top Case
OEM Side Cases
OEM Touring Screen - Stock low screen included
Like New Corbin Heated Seat ($800) - Stock seat included
Charge Tank ($4000 value, speeds up the charge to 12kwh) - Charge for 45-60 minutes and get back to riding.

About $30k invested.  Love it, but I just don't ride much any more.   Reply, pm me, or message on FB if you're interested.  Located in Plymouth MA but I will work with shippers to get it where you want it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: DSR/X questions
« on: May 10, 2023, 01:24:21 AM »

I switched from SR/F to Energica a few years ago, in part because of warping J Juan rotors and mediocre suspension on the Zero.
I'm curious if the DSR/X successfully addressed these issues.

Thanks

Nope!  My Juans warped within about 500 miles from the dealership.  Getting them replaced under warranty as we speak.

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I’ve owned a couple GS’s and a Duc 1260 Enduro. I’d argue the DSR/X can give them a run for their money, where the article says it can’t. Yes, you get more buttons and modes and bullshit on a fully kitted GS, but from a riding perspective and adv capability I don’t see it getting any better than what the DSR X has to offer.

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Yeah I am going to find a rear seat bag and between that and the top box I should have plenty of room for a long weekends worth of stuff. That should bump my safe range to 90-100 miles and that’s plenty. I find I like a break after that much riding anyway, and once I get the fast charger and a Tesla tap I’ll be golden for road tripping and my ICE bike buddies can stop being annoyed by my long layovers.

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So, I bought one Friday and did a 500 mile loop on her over the weekend. I bought it with the side cases and touring screen, and I can absolutely say 150 miles ain’t happening. I went anywhere from 35-55mph and I’m getting a smidge more then 1 mile per %. Turns out the onboard wh/mi meter is utterly useless, as is the GoM. I disabled both on the gauge screen and just use the %. When I put the touring screen all the way up I get less than 1 mile per %, but at 6’2 I noticed the second lowest setting is enough to send all the air over my helmet and going any higher doesn’t change wind noise much. I also think the side cases are big points of resistance. I did my best to kind of feel around for air as I was cruising along and there is a lot smashing right into those side cases. Very little hitting the top case. I’ll have to test this but I bet with those off I can push her to 120-130 miles from 110%.

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I took one for a spin today.  Went a little slower then I had hoped but I got a good idea what I'm looking at.  I went 23 miles and went from 96% to 80%, with a wh/mi of 122.  At 122 wh/mi I am looking at 147 miles on a 17kw pack, assuming they let you use all that.  From what I understand you get that and then a little extra if you set it to extended range charge mode. 

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Yeah I am pretty well versed in charging having owned 4 EVs at this point, wasn't aware of the high powered level 2 chargers though. Ill have to keep that in mind for my rivian with overnight stays at hotels.

I can stand stopping for 45 minutes to top off after 150 miles or so to make it 200 miles in a day but I couldn't take any more then that. I am surprised there aren't more trip reports with these bikes, id love to see what others have managed.  After doing some research I started thinking the Experia might be the better bet as well as the pack is larger and the motor is lower output which should result in getting me close to what I want. Maybe one of these days a dealer will let me demo for a 200 mile loop.

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I'm wondering about these 13.2kw chargers I have never seen in existence.  It looks to me like the bike has the typical level 2 charge plug, which I have only ever seen go at 6.6kw.  Is there a new standard out there that does more with the level 2 charge plug that I haven't seen?  Or is it something that only works on motorcycles and not cars?

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This bike is interesting to me. I have a long history of both adventure motorcycles and electric vehicles, and even owned a zero in the past. I forget what model but it was the motard with the ~7kw battery. On that bike I got about 60 miles total with my typical riding pace, which is 50-55mph on a typical back road. I generally end up averaging somewhere in the low 40s to high 30s on a 200ish mile back road ride on my average speed indicator which includes stops, being stuck behind camrys, etc.. My question is is this bike capable of 200 mile days at my pace with a 6.6kw charge stop for 45 minutes or so, or is it going to only get me 100 miles or so on a full charge?

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