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The point being… I normally plan on keeping vehicles until they are done. Then I replace the engine and keep them going even further. So resale value is not a factor for me, normally.
But I wouldn’t want to keep an EV for more than a couple years, then move on to something with a fresh battery

Thanks for the reply.

I know there are other options, but I am tied to the HD brand.
To be more precise I am tied to Eric Buell, and would have loved to get his Fuell EV motorcycle, but that doesn’t appear to be happening. The next best thing for me is HD.

If I had a magic wand and a longer commute I’d go for a Street Glide with the magnificent 114 engine, I am 6’4” so that still feels like a small bike to me! It rides like a cloud.

Having a 7-minute commute anything I use with an ICE is going to age poorly, used mostly while the oil is cold. So I’d rather go electric.

I don’t need performance, I don’t need luggage capacity, I don’t need longer range.
I want to ride with style and pride, and that to me is an HD-branded original 2020 Livewire
I also find it to have very similar proportions to my Buell XB12X Ulysses after I transformed it into a tall Lightning.

It’s like love, you can’t rationalize it! Haha

Good afternoon fellas!

I am looking to purchase a Livewire, and am trying to understand the pros and cons of getting a new 2020 HD Livewire instead of a new 2022 Livewire One.

The two bikes are NOT the same, as clearly pointed out by the spec sheets (2020 HD Livewire vs 2022 Livewire One):
- 105 HP vs 100 HP
- 86 lb-ft vs 84 lb-ft
- 15.5 kWh vs 15.4 kWh
- 549 lbs vs 562 lbs

If my experience in the automotive industry tells me anything, there are two very conflicting arguments about old vs new:
- it's likely that the 2022 bike has received redesigns to iron out any major mechanical and electronic issues.
- it's likely that the 2022 bike has undergone considerable "value optimization" (cost engineering), stripping it of features/components/materials, or replacing them with less expensive alternatives, even to the point of reducing performance and/or quality.

This is something that happens with all mass-produced vehicles through their life cycle: a reason why usually it's best to purchase a vehicle 12-18 months after it's initial launch, to get a revision that has its initial kinks ironed out but hasn't been cannibalized by cost engineers yet.

I have read a lot about the 2020 HD Livewire's initial electronic problems, and confirmed with an HD dealership manager: some bikes had a bad transformer that would lock down upon charging the bike from a home outlet, but the problem has been fixed with replacement PCBs and is covered under warranty.

Price-wise it's seems like HD Livewire and Livewire One are aligned (some HD dealerships are trying to get rid of their stock and have dropped the price down to the LW One level in an attempt to do so).

I'm wondering if the HD Livewire will better retain its value, since there are only so many on the road. It looks like it's cheaper to get a new one than a second hand one at the moment.
I'm also wondering whether I'd get better warranty coverage and service if I purchased it through HD rather than LiveWire?

What do you guys, and gals, think?