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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Gates App vs Krikit for Belt Tension
« on: September 19, 2022, 08:10:13 PM »

The precision the app provides was enough to determine that there was a 7Hz variance on two points of the wheel rotation, 180 degrees apart. I was able to solve that by removing the rear sprocket and rotating it two bolt holes clockwise and reattaching.


Well, that's interesting.  I still have some vibration coming from the back wheel on my SR/S that I can't seem to find the source of.  I might try this and see if rotating the sprocket reduces that vibration.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: time to balance the battery
« on: August 26, 2022, 08:54:22 PM »
So, for the Gen 3's, is it safe just to leave it charging for days at a time in the hopes that it'll shut itself off when the balancing is complete?  My SR/S has shut off just once or twice on its own after reaching 100%.  Is it recommended to leave it on the charger until this happens every so often?  Monthly?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Wheel /belt alignment question
« on: May 26, 2022, 09:39:04 PM »
Is the motor alignment adjustable?  My belt rides up tight against the inside edge of the pulley at the motor when it's otherwise perfect at the rear wheel, and that always bugged me.  I think I looked for the motor mounts briefly, but didn't really see any way to adjust that.

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I thought maybe the back wheel was way out of balance, causing the vibrations (ultimately causing the buzzing up near the chargers), so I took the wheel off of the bike and tried to check the balance by resting the axle on two jack stands.  It might be very slightly out of balance, but not a lot.  'Not sure how accurate that method is.  While the wheel was off I pushed the disk brake caliper all the way in.  'Got everything back together without much trouble, no brake pad drag, and I *still* get the vibration at about 900 rpms.  Argh.  So it's not the brake drag that's causing this, and unless a small balance issue is causing it, it's not that either.  Now that I'm onto the source of the buzzing, I'm sure it's the rear end.  On the center stand at 3-4000 rpm (20-30 mph) there's clearly something causing vibration through the whole bike.

So, I could try another couple of things:
  -  Get a real wheel-balancer rig (maybe $50 on Amazon) and check the balance that way.
  -  Take the wheel into a local shop and have them check.
  -  Try running the motor without the belt attached and see if there's any vibration there.
  -  Maybe give up and drop the bike back at the dealer and have them figure this out.

Is it OK to do #3 above?  Run the motor without the wheel attached?  I guess I'm a little worried the computer will freak out and throw a handful of errors that I can't recover from.

Thanks again for all the feedback.

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> Is this a Day-1 issue?

Yes.

> You probably don’t have to many miles on it yet?

Right, maybe 500 miles.

> Seems odd, for the buzz to be RPM related, on an Electric Bike.
> If you hear it, when on your Center Stand, my guess is its Belt or Rear Wheel/Brakes related.

Well, that makes a lot of sense...

> The 22, that I saw, at a dealer, had a super tight belt (almost no deflection).
> Not sure if 22’s are shipping that way now.

Mine was that way as well.  I've been playing around a lot to get it "right" (a little more relaxed, centered perfectly on the rear sprocket).

> Maybey play with Belt Alignment (and/or Tension).

Right, I tried that, both looser and tighter.

> Also, if you apply the rear brake does it make any difference?

No, but see below...

> FYI - I’ve had all plastics off my 21 and that power-point doesn't reflect how much fun it is, putting the Tank Plastics back on.
> Things fit very tight and there are a lot of cables to stuff back in, under the “tank”.

Right, that main piece took a lot of work to get back on.

> Sure something could be loose under there, but I find an RPM related resonance to be odd.

I think you're right.

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I followed the video above, got all of the plastic off, got the "trunk" off, and the noise was coming from below all of that, likely either inside of one of the two chargers, or between the chargers and the battery (again at 850 RPMs).  It looked like a huge task to keep going (to disconnect all the wiring and remove the chargers) so I gave up at that point.

So now that I read what you said above, I think that's exactly it.  When I spin the rear wheel with the bike on the stand, the rear brake drags just a little bit for about 1/10th of the rotation.  I just chalked that up to the brake pads being brand new and maybe not sitting quite right, thinking it'll go away with time.  But it makes perfect sense that this would cause a vibration through the rest of the bike, and resonate at one particular frequency, 850 RPM in this case.

Soooo, what do I do about this?  Is there an adjustment I can make to loosen the rear brake so it doesn't drag?  Is this a defective, warped rotor that needs to be replaced?

Thanks for your response, and any other suggestions!

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So it wasn't the trunk lid, but the 'buzzing' is coming from *right* below the bottom panel of the trunk at 850rpm.

I found this powerpoint showing how to take the plastic off: 

I'll disassemble soon and report back.

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Got it.  I'll give that a try first and let you know.  Thanks!

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Does anyone have a video or instructions on removing the top and side plastic on a 2022 SR/S?  I'm trying to track down a buzzing/rattling that happens right about 850rpm.  It's definitely coming from somewhere near the top of the battery.  I've got a center stand installed, so it's pretty easy to reproduce the issue.  While riding, this buzzing/rattling sound happens on both acceleration and deceleration at that very same RPM, and it's driving me crazy.  Thanks for any tips or suggestions.

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I don't have my SR/S yet ('won't until next week), but I've been playing around with the iPhone App in preparation.  When I look at the default "Sport" ride-mode in the app, it seems to imply that it'll only use 80% of the power, and that you'd need to create a "Custom" ride mode to use all 100%.  Could that be the case here?


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