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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:43:29 AM »
By the way I use one of those hitch carriers and the beauty of electric is no clutch and no gear lever.
You just stand on the ground and use the bike's power to just ease it up the ramp.  Very easy and controllable.

Decided to go 2022 FX, want to do the same. Have a 2021 Jeep JLU. Any tips on choosing a hitch? Tongue weight doesn't seem like too much of an issue.

Thanks much! Delivered today. Took it on a quick ride -- going to take some getting used to but all in all, awesome. Haven't been on a bike in a while so it'll be all back roads and practice trips for me for a while.

I just got my carrier off Ebay.  I needed a 500lb weight limit.
Mostly you'll get what you pay for, nicer rack higher price.  Pretty much any good one should work fine.  Do look for ones that can have the ramp on either side since it lets you power the bike on and off the carrier.

Congrats on the new Zero and let us know how you like it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 19, 2021, 07:07:23 AM »
By the way I use one of those hitch carriers and the beauty of electric is no clutch and no gear lever.
You just stand on the ground and use the bike's power to just ease it up the ramp.  Very easy and controllable.

Decided to go 2022 FX, want to do the same. Have a 2021 Jeep JLU. Any tips on choosing a hitch? Tongue weight doesn't seem like too much of an issue.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 09:33:57 PM »
I think the new 2022 FX model would be a better deal in the long run. It has good performance, weighs under 300 pounds, is freeway legal and has some other features, like the TFT display and Cyber II system that the older model doesn't have. Plus, it has a 2-year warranty and 5-years on the battery. While it is not cheap at $12K, you can get a 10% deduction off of your federal tax return and a few states (like California) also offer cash rebates to anyone buying a new EV. But buying used will not get you either of those rebates. Finally, the new model will have a much greater resale value in the future than any 2015 Zero. Before making your decision more research will be worthwhile.

Definitely leaning new.

If only I can get dealers to get back to me with firm quotes.  ;D

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 08:37:59 PM »
I put my DSR on it but it's even easier with a smaller bike.  My Tundra has a class 3 hitch but I also cross over 2500lb ratchet straps and hook them to the outer corners of the rack and then to my bed tie downs.

For a Jeep I think the FX is no problem at all.  That 2015 has the removable batteries so if you pull them it's about 90 lbs lighter.  It can also ride with just one battery if you want a lighter ride.

There is an old Youtube video from a guy called Matt Fish doing some beautiful trail rides and gives you some idea of what it's like.

Interesting, I thought I read somewhere that the removable batteries caused more issues than they provided benefits -- honestly my head is spinning at this point so I may have invented that.

I'm leaning towards going the FX route, but maybe going new and getting the 5 year warranty. The price differential doesn't seem to be that substantial.

The 2015 I referred to above is available for $8k out the door, seems to be the lowest they're willing to go.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 07:33:15 PM »
By the way I use one of those hitch carriers and the beauty of electric is no clutch and no gear lever.
You just stand on the ground and use the bike's power to just ease it up the ramp.  Very easy and controllable.

This is promising, with an FX or a DSR? I reckon it would work either way, just looking for anecdata.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 02:22:47 AM »
Yeah the DSR will have twice the battery so there is that.  I have one and dirt roads are fine but the cast wheels are heavy and if you bend it you toss it.
I think a FX may be a bit more in line with what you want if you're not looking to commute a longer distance.
I know the 15 FX you're looking at on CT and it's set up nice.  The only thing is those batteries are out of warranty and it would be about $6k for new ones.

If you still want that one I'd low ball it by $2k or more.

Super helpful. I’ll give it a shot.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 01:03:48 AM »
You might want to check out the weight of the two models if you are going to push them into and out of a vehicle, or might have to pick one up if dropped on a trail. I believe the FX is noticeably lighter than the DSR. It is street legal, but doesn't have the same range and top speed as the DSR, if that is a consideration to you.

That's a good point. I was thinking of transporting it on a hitch mount -- but I wonder if I would be more able to do that with the FX.

As for range, I'd love to be able to ride the 20 miles to the trails, explore, and return ... but that isn't necessarily a dealbreaker if I can't.

I'm seeing if there is a better deal on the 2015 and leaning that way.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 17, 2021, 12:44:19 AM »
I appreciate the insight! Unfortunately I don't think the E-XC is road legal here, and I would want to be able to bop around at least a bit on the pavement.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Decision Fatigue - FX? FXE? DSR?
« on: November 16, 2021, 10:32:44 PM »
Hey all, first time poster long(ish) time lurker.

I'm a former rider looking to get back in to it. I've done some test drives and I'm not too finicky about ride postures and whatnot, so I have frankly found the DSR and FX models to be about of equal comfort.

My use case is small amounts of tooling around town for fun and popping the bike on the back of my Jeep and taking to the woods to explore. The area is relatively flat terrain, the kinds of places you can take most SUVs, and some sandy soil (NJ Pine Barrens, fwiw).

I am torn between an FX and a DSR and, within that, used versus new. The woods I would go to are about 20 miles from my house, so I reckon I would probably tow whatever I get there for the most part ... but being able to ride there on a nice day wouldn't be so bad. That makes me lean DSR. But do they hold up on the dirt?

Right now I have inquiries with dealers about:

2015 FX @ $7k (2500 miles)
2021 FXS @ $10,600
2021 DSR @ MSRP

Any insights/thoughts? Appreciate it!

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