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I currently have a 2020 SRF, but before that I had a 2016 S (that I purchased used) that I sold to a friend of mine who is still riding it.  Range-wise, I didn't like how the S felt on the freeway, so most of both his and my mileage was on surface streets, and I would say it did about 80 miles around town over the couple years I had it, and I believe it's close to the same for him.  Neither of us are daily drivers with it, but typically either of us ride it about once or twice a week (I think he does it more than I did, but for shorter trips).  Charging-wise it's pretty slow, generally I would just plug it in at night and it would be charged in the morning, so let's say about 8 hours if it was relatively low on charge.  Power-wise it starts to drop off under 20% SOC, but that's true on most Zero's from my experience - still certainly rideable, you just don't have the acceleration you normally do.  I had zero issues with it, and the only issue he's had was the headlight wire rubbed and basically got cut so I had to help him repair that - but that's it. 

FWIW, my SRF has been a breeze to own, and is much more comfortable on the freeway (which is where I tend to ride it the most).  When I first got it (used) it only had 400 miles on it, I've probably put a couple thousand on it so far and the mileage went from maybe 100 miles (freeway) to closer to 80 miles - but that's just what the range shows, and I don't go out of my way to ride super conservatively, nor have I tried to zero out the BMS to get a full range estimate.  It's much faster to charge than the S was, but it's also a premium, so I can charge at ~6kw, so I think that's around 2 hours from empty to full, but in practice I usually only charge an hour and it's back to full (as I'm only going half the distance).  Still wish it had more range - I've tried a couple of longer distance rides, and they've been relatively unpleasant due to almost running out of juice or arriving at charging stations that don't work.  So I just stick to town with it - which is unfortunate, as the one nice longer ride I did with it was actually very pleasant (sans the range anxiety).  The lack of heat and vibration really makes for a particularly easy ride.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: WIFI Outlet
« on: September 23, 2022, 08:15:13 AM »
If you do end up wanting a bit more control (and ironically cheaper), these are what I use:
The ONLY control I want is a single remote button off and on. No timers, no monitoring, no nothing other than an acknowledgment that it did what I remotely requested.


I don't want something where I have to study a manual to figure out how to turn on and off instantly when I only use it perhaps once a month or so. The less functions, the better. I already own complicated ones that can do everything one can think of, and more, as long as you read and study the manual for at least a half hour each time you want to use it just to turn something on or off.

I attached a screenshot of what Tasmota looks like - I think you're confusing featureful with complicated.  While it has tons of features that you won't use, the basic features are, well, basic.  There's a button on the device that turns the outlet on/off, and there's a web interface that I've attached that turns it on and off, and in big letters is says whether it's on or off.

The reason I recommended it was because once you set it up (the flashing with tasmota the most complicated part), it's literally about as simple as it's possible to get, and it has no external dependencies.  No app, just a web interface you can access from your computer, phone, whatever.  Either way, it sounds like you found an option you're happy with, but at least you know this is available and simple enough if you're so inclined.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: WIFI Outlet
« on: September 21, 2022, 11:43:06 PM »
If you do end up wanting a bit more control (and ironically cheaper), these are what I use:

https://amzn.to/3f2ddZj

I don't run the stock firmware, I flash them with Tasmota (which is free and super powerful once you get used to how to reflash units):

https://tasmota.github.io/docs/

With this installed, there's no cloud dependencies as it all runs local - and these plugs also do power monitoring as well, so you can see exactly how much power is being used, etc.  I also run Home Assistant (free, open source), to do all my home automation - and this also allows me to control things away from the house, as you can configure it with external access.  Then you can do more advanced things, like I have it monitor my powerwalls and solar, and it only turns on charging when there's enough solar and my powerwalls are full, and then just turns the outlet off when solar isn't outputting enough power for some period of time.

I also just bought one of these (although it hasn't arrived), and it allows you to also control the charge rate (from off, and then 6A on up to whatever unit you've bought - in my case 40A):

https://www.openevse.com/

It's a bit pricey as compared to other chargers, but I like the control it has plus the ability to integrate it with my automations.

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You’ve really done a great job on your conversion.  The last time I was in Ukraine (last year), in Kharkiv I spotted this bike, which looks like another DIY mod.  Lots of talented people over there. :)

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New dashboard SR/F
« on: April 14, 2022, 08:47:02 AM »
When you connect to your bike with the app (assuming you use it), and go into firmware update, what versions does it say you have?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Range at 0...
« on: September 13, 2021, 04:21:51 AM »
heheh, thank you for the summary.  :)

I included the details of the full ride just in case this would effect what the 0 SOC performance would be like.  For example, when I was close to 0 SOC after all the freeway miles, the regen braking (which I have set a 100%) was basically non-existent - but both at the first charging stop and after the last charge stop where the bike/battery had cooled down some, the regen braking was working fine at 0 SOC.  Just wasn't sure if details of the ride would be relevant, and figured a few extra sentences of details could be helpful.

And thanks for everyone who provided their experiences with range at 0 SOC.

Can anyone else translate this pile of gibberish? I can't understand what's trying to be communicated.
It is mostly a ride report.

How far can the premium zero go at zero state of charge showing?

How can the zero owner get a display value  of 0 soc to be when the bike will go no farther?

Besides riding around a parking lot in circles how can an electric motorcycle owner experiment to see the behavior approaching the point pushing or calling is necessary?

I can comnent on the last one, experiment uphill from a charging point or have a chance vehicle.

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Tech Help / Re: SR/F tire changing paddock suggestions?
« on: September 12, 2021, 04:33:34 AM »
What front stand are you using?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Range at 0...
« on: September 12, 2021, 04:29:37 AM »
I just did one of my longer rides on my 2020 SRF Premium, basically a big triangle, about 300 miles or so, with the first part on slower back roads and the return on the freeway.  Definitely a good learning experience, and ended up at most of my charging spots with less than 10 miles of estimated range.  On my last leg to my house, I ended up having to stop at another charging station to make sure I had enough charge - then ended up not being able to charge because the battery was too hot - assuming this is why, it was right after coming off the freeway I didn't have any other options so just sat around until it would finally charge about 30 mins later (and it started charging at like 0.3 amps and slowly increased for the next hour).  Anyway, my generic rule of thumb has been 1% SOC per mile - depending on speeds and how I'm riding this can be more or less - but it was primarily surface streets for the last 13 miles, so I charged to 15% SOC.  On the way back, there was a detour and I managed to get lost and ended up at 0 % SOC and range - and figured I'd ride it as far as I could, but probably was going to have to push it or get a tow.  I made it back to my house, and ended up riding about 2 miles at 0 SOC - so my question is this, how much range do you really have at 0 SOC?   And is there something I can do to maybe increase the accuracy of the SOC?  I've seen people mention riding the bike to basically 0, but just wondered how they did this exactly?  Just driving in circles in a parking lot or is there ideally some easier method?

Any help or insights would be appreciated... I will say the back road portion of the ride was awesome on the SRF - the lack of sound is actually very cool on the windy roads I was on, and the lack of vibration I think made the overall ride much more enjoyable.  And I had just added the Corbin saddle, so I'm sure that helped as well.  ;)

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Electric Motorcycle News / Re: Zero SR/F Quickstrike accessory parts
« on: September 01, 2021, 10:39:21 PM »
In the press release it says that the kit is $999, so all in all not terrible for the parts I suppose - I suspect the only thing you won't be able to buy is the tank sticker that says Quickstrike, but TBH the sticker is a bit lame to my eyes.

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Tech Help / Re: Zero and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
« on: June 09, 2021, 11:53:57 PM »
Care to post the exact model number of the encoder?  It could be that it could help someone in the future who encounters a similar issue.

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