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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: April 18, 2023, 07:01:07 PM »
Thanks for your suggestion, but after all the trouble with Zero I'd rather not buy a bike without having a dealership within a reasonable distance. It's not like a gas bike where any mechanic could do an oil-/filter change regardless of the make and model. I am willing to give Energica the benefit of a doubt and assume that they are better at providing service, but if that service option is more than 300 miles away it's basically useless to me. I'm not even sure how much hassle it is to register a bike in Canada that has been sold in the US.

Maybe one day if Energica decides to have a dealership network in Ontario I'll reconsider. Until then I'll just go back to gas. Also, just to be clear, I'm not bashing electric motorcycles. I'm calling out Zero as a manufacturer that can't or won't help. The reason I'm going back to a gas bike is not that I think EV's suck. It's because Zero sucks and there are no other viable options for me at this time.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: April 17, 2023, 07:15:23 PM »
Whatever the issue is, the bike has been sitting at the dealership for five and a half months now and I am done talking to them. I hired a lawyer to represent me and they can take this piece of garbage back.

I really wanted to like this bike but two different dealerships have been unable to repair the bike, it's getting warmer outside and I'm paying for the insurance while the bike is at the shop. No thanks. The manufacturer wasn't helping either. Someone telling me how sorry they are isn't going to change anything.

At this point I can only advise against getting a Zero motorcycle. They're great while they're working, but once you have a problem you can basically throw it away. Plus there are all these little issues that they've never addressed, like no brakelight when recuperating, cruise control is unable to keep the speed in an incline, no CCS charging capability, incandescent bulbs in the turn signals, inability to recharge below freezing while storage mode doesn't lower the consumption enough to make it through the winter... all these are problems that the 2014 BMW K1600GT I now bought doesn't have to deal with.

I'll update the forum on how the legal proceedings go but other than that it turns out that at this time an electric motorcycle just isn't for me. Zero is dead to me, I don't like the Lifewire and Energica isn't even available in Canada. Ah well, I still have my Tesla. At least that's something that works and gets serviced if need be.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: March 02, 2023, 10:45:26 PM »
So I just received an email telling me that my CCM is now working. The bike has been sitting at the dealership for 4 months. I still can't connect to the bike via the app though. I even installed the Zero NextGen app on a different phone where it has never been installed before and there is still no connection to the bike.

Zero claims that they can see the bike from their end and tells me that the problem will be fixed with an app update that is "scheduled to be released in April".

I have a hard time believing that this is true. I can't even connect to the bike using the ZenGo app. Also, am I to understand that all previous app versions since February 2022 had the same issue? Wouldn't that mean that as of right now, nobody can access their bike via the NextGen app version 2.7.1?

Something doesn't seem right. Plus, either way: my problem hasn't been resolved. I brought my bike in with the problem description that I can't connect to the bike via the cell connection. As it stands right now, I still can't. I just want this POS repaired so I can sell it and never deal with Zero Motorcycles again.  "The Tesla of Motorcycles" my ass. I never had anything even close to this mess happen with my Model 3.

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Buy Sell Trade / Re: Nissan Leaf Cells
« on: December 15, 2022, 09:09:26 PM »
Sooo... Lots of views and nobody is interested in the cells.

Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but doesn't that mean that it's time to accept that nobody wants them and to move on? Unless you generated all the clicks yourself to generate a fake interest so people would think "oh, everybody wants those cells so I better hurry and buy them before someone else does".

Anyway, since you keep bumping your ad over and over again I'd like to remind you of the registration agreement that you agreed to when you signed up, particularly the section about spam.

And now please excuse me, I have a bunch of Zero cells that I need to sell on the Nissan Leaf forum which undoubtedly is the right place to offer them.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: December 15, 2022, 07:31:18 AM »
Update: in short, nothing is happening. My bike has been sitting at the dealership since November 3rd. After posting here someone from Zero contacted me to offer help. Interesting since I tried to get Zero involved so they can hopefully fix the issue but they pretty much brushed me off.

Anyway, so I was told they'd get in touch with the dealer to get the issue resolved. That was two weeks ago. Nobody contacted me during this time, no status update, no nothing. The only thing that has changed is that the app now says that the last connection was 6 months ago instead of 5...

I wish I could say I'm disappointed but this is actually exactly what I expected after all the bad experience I've had with Zero so far. This company is dead to me. I've never seen so much incompetence in both technical skills and customer service. It is beyond me how it can take so long to replace a part and set it up so that it works.

Sorry for the rant.

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I'm with OP on the issue that Zero customer service is exactly that (read it again if you don't get the pun).

My bike has been sitting at Motoplex St. Eustache, QC for more than three weeks now and they are unable to fix the problem. When I contacted Zero, they pretty much told me to leave them alone and ask the shop for help.

I have no idea whether or not they can fix the bike. I don't even know if the problem is the CCM itself or the software or whatever else. All I know for sure is that the bike will be up for sale the moment I get it back. I will no longer support a company that cares so little about their customers. It's too bad that Canada doesn't have a lemon law.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: November 18, 2022, 04:17:19 AM »
Good luck. Please let us know if they succeed and how long it took them to fix the problem.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Is your CCM working?
« on: November 18, 2022, 12:08:00 AM »
Thanks for the responses guys, I really appreciate your input. Looks like I'm not the only one with this problem. That doesn't make it any better and I will push for the dealer to buy back the bike if they can't fix it. It's bad enough that the cellular connection doesn't work, but since they aren't able to fix things within a day, I'd potentially be paying hundreds of dollars on insurance while the bike is at the shop all summer long. I have zero confidence (<- see what I did there?) that they are able to fix a real problem that prevents me from using the bike if one occurs. I really wanted to like this bike but the manufacturer is about as incompetent as can be. I just don't want to do business with a company that doesn't understand their own product and basically ignores their customers.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Is your CCM working?
« on: November 16, 2022, 11:18:23 PM »
Hi all, I am having issues with the cellular connectivity module (CCM). It started earlier this year after I installed an update (I don't recall which one). I had the bike at a dealer in Lakefield, ON and despite me going there twice to have the issue resolved, they were unable to help. The CCM got replaced during the first visit but still wouldn't work so I had to go to have it "initiated" (whatever that means) but still no dice.

I decided to bring the bike to another dealer in St. Eustache, QC and although I initially had a good feeling that they would be able to fix the problem, I'm now losing confidence that this will ever happen.

I called them after a week to inquire about the status of the repair and was told it's working now but it turned out it still doesn't work. I uninstalled the Zero NextGen app, re-installed it, no success. Also the ZeNGo app doesn't connect to the bike. Zero implied that the CCM is the problem since they haven't seen any connection attempts from the bike in months either.

Anyway, so the dealer told me the problem is likely the software. I'm not sure if he's referring to the MBB/BMS software or the app.

If that was accurate, neither one of us would be able to connect to the bike via the CCM (this is explicitly NOT about the Bluetooth connection which works fine).

What is everybody's situation? Can you see the current SoC in your app while the bike is keyed off and/or more than 20 metres away? If you respond, please include vehicle, year, MBB/BMS, phone OS and app version.

In my case that's:
Bike: 2021 SR/S with power tank
MBB/BMS: unknown, bike is at the dealer and I have no access
Phone OS: Android 12
Zero NextGen app version: 2.7


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With the new dash it's:
  • hold the MODE button until the menu pops up,
  • then go to PREFERENCES -> BRIGHTNESS AND CONTRAST
  • select "Backlight" AUTO (optional) and "High Contrast" ON (for a white dash) or OFF (for a dark dash)

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I'm not at home right now, but I seem to remember that you need to look for "high contrast mode" in order to keep it in day mode. It's somewhere in the settings. That's how it works with the new dash firmware, I don't remember how it used to work before or which firmware you have.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New dash firmware
« on: September 29, 2022, 05:30:01 PM »
I decided to give the latest firmware a chance. Kinda against my own better judgment, but available firmware updates make me do crazy things, like installing them.

To my surprise both the MBB and the BMS update went through without any issues.

What they do or what they are supposed to do I don't know. I read the release notes but they basically sound like politicians. Many words, zero content.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: MBB v25, BMS v21
« on: September 29, 2022, 05:23:50 PM »
Oh I get why they don't allow me to charge the bike in cold weather, that's not my issue.

My issue is that storage mode is not preserving enough energy to get the bike through winter. When my MCC was still working (that's a story for another day) I saw that it was still active in storage mode. Also storage mode monitors the SoC of the battery and drains it to 60% if you let it sit at a higher SoC for a month IIRC. All these things require juice from the battery and cause it to drain over time. It's storage mode for crying out loud. Why can't they just disable everything and leave it to the owner to drain the battery to 60% before winter starts? The cold temperature is actually a perfect condition for a LiIon battery to be stored at. It won't lose a significant amount of energy if it's left alone, but sadly Zero decided to slowly drain it.

That's basically why I will disconnect and remove the 12 V battery and keep it in my basement during the winter. That way I can recharge it as necessary (probably not at all) and the bike won't be able to suckle on the HVs battery's teat.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Cold weather storage
« on: September 28, 2022, 01:46:15 AM »
The bike is not going to charge the battery if it's below zero (<- see what I did there?). Storage mode is basically useless as it will still drain the HV battery during a Canadian winter. I ran into that problem last year. The HV battery was approaching 30% and I couldn't charge at -20 degrees C outside. I had to use a bed sheet and an electric heater to get the pack to a suitable temperature.

This winter I'll just charge the HV battery to 60% and then disconnect the 12V battery. That way I can keep it charged indoors and the HV battery won't lose its charge either as nothing can draw power without the 12V battery.

Driving at freezing temps might be a bad idea if it doesn't get the battery to a temperature where it can charge.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: MBB v25, BMS v21
« on: September 27, 2022, 09:53:54 PM »
Let us hope that the Long Term Storage Mode will work ok this coming winter.
Oh it will. Because I'll have it in Mooseman mode, meaning I'm going to remove the 12 V battery so the bike doesn't drain it, thus it won't drain the HV battery either.
It was ridiculous last winter. Storage mode used way too much power and I can't recharge below 0 degrees C. I don't think Zero has any idea what a Canadian winter is like.

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