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Title: 2013 ds no start
Post by: LDG on November 13, 2019, 06:31:29 AM
Fully charged but when I bring up the kickstand it won't go. Still flashes like kill switch is engaged. I have turned on/off multiple times, kickstand up/down, flicked kill switch, tried sport/eco modes, moved bike back and forth, applied brakes.....I'm running out of ideas.

It did this a week ago right after I took it off charger but when I came back later it was fine. Chargers great so I'm at a loss.

Heeelllppp
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on November 13, 2019, 06:37:20 AM
Use the mobile app to get the logs, and email them to yourself, then upload them for a text output:
https://home.hasslers.net/zerologparser/log_parser.php (https://home.hasslers.net/zerologparser/log_parser.php)

The logs should tell you what the MBB is thinking.

(For those who don't know, the 2013 dash doesn't show error codes. Also it doesn't have the Calex charger.)
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: NEW2elec on November 13, 2019, 11:12:48 AM
Yes do what Brian said.
Just to test my own knowledge I'm going to guess it's your kickstand switch that's either loose or has gone bad.
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: DonTom on November 13, 2019, 11:42:24 AM
Yes do what Brian said.
Just to test my own knowledge I'm going to guess it's your kickstand switch that either loose or has gone bad.
That's what I was thinking also.

Doesn't the sidestand switch use light? If that's the case, perhaps the sidestand only needs cleaning where the light is detected.

-Don-  Payson, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: Richard230 on November 13, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The side-stand safety interlock switches have such a bad reputation on Royal Enfield motorcycles that most owners remove and bypass them shortly after the bike dies during their first long ride.   ::)

However, I will admit that I have never had that problem on any of my Zero's.  :)
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: DonTom on November 13, 2019, 09:10:24 PM
The side-stand safety interlock switches have such a bad reputation on Royal Enfield motorcycles that most owners remove and bypass them shortly after the bike dies during their first long ride.   ::)

However, I will admit that I have never had that problem on any of my Zero's.  :)
I bypassed the sidestand switch on my 1984 Venture before it gave me any problems because I knew it gave others problems.

The bike mentioned here is a DS. That could mean it sees  more dirt than  your S, and if the SSS does work with light, it could be that simple of a problem.

-Don-   Payson, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: LDG on November 14, 2019, 01:32:47 AM
Thanks for the knowledge folks. I'll try stuff out tonight and give an update later
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: togo on November 14, 2019, 06:10:04 AM
> Doesn't the sidestand switch use light? If that's the case, perhaps the sidestand only needs cleaning where the light is detected.

It's magnetic.  There's a magnet in the stand, and hall effect or reed switch wired up.  See the wiring diagrams as well:

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Schematic

Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: LDG on November 16, 2019, 02:44:49 AM
UPDATE

So of course last night I went down and there was no problem with the power....

On that note can anyone explain exactly where the magnet should go on the stand in case this happens again?
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: LDG on November 20, 2019, 04:06:49 AM
bump
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on November 20, 2019, 04:54:28 AM
I don't have a bike I can go check for this, but basically the magnet needs to go into a little recessed hole on the inside facing the frame/swingarm pivot area. You'll see the sensor face outward.

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Kickstand_Switch
Title: Re: 2013 ds no start
Post by: LDG on November 21, 2019, 06:11:38 AM
I will try this!! Thanks