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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: BigPoppa on August 16, 2019, 10:17:39 PM
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Has any US owners replaced their turn signals with LED units yet? If so, did you have any issues with fast blinking or error codes? Did you have to install resistors inline and if so what size?
Before I spend the money on Rizoma's I want to be relatively comfortable that it won't be a major effort to get them to work.
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Has any US owners replaced their turn signals with LED units yet? If so, did you have any issues with fast blinking or error codes? Did you have to install resistors inline and if so what size?
Before I spend the money on Rizoma's I want to be relatively comfortable that it won't be a major effort to get them to work.
Six ohms at 50 watts on each turn signal lamp that is replaced with LED. You can buy them here. (https://www.amazon.com/4Pcs-Aaron-6ohm-Load-Resistors/dp/B00L4V9ECY/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=motorcycle+led+turn+signal+resistor&qid=1565983607&s=gateway&sr=8-3)
BTW, I never bother to change my turn signals to LED as I really see no advantage. Especially when there is no saved energy as it is wasted in heat in the six ohm resistors. IOW, either way, the waste is in heat. And it is very rare for turn signals to crap out. I probably still have my originals in my 1971 BMW. I don't even recall ever replacing a turn signal lamp on a motorcycle.
However, I do change the other lamps to LED. On my 1971 BMW it has a LED headlight as well as taillight, but the turn signals are stock with the original bulbs (IIRC). Where no resistors are required, I will go for it. Or else, why bother?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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BTW, I never bother to change my turn signals to LED as I really see no advantage.
Advantage is easy - it looks just much more better than the original flaps ;-)
Same to the brake reservoir that looks like a urine cup in hospital... :-P
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LOL...glad I’m not the only who thought that when looking at the front brake fluid reservoir. I replaced mine with a blue Rizoma unit: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/rizoma-next-front-brake-reservoir
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BTW, I never bother to change my turn signals to LED as I really see no advantage.
Advantage is easy - it looks just much more better than the original flaps ;-)
Same to the brake reservoir that looks like a urine cup in hospital... :-P
Your brake reservoir doesn't look quite as bad as the one on my 2009 BMW F650GS. It is mounted on a spring and earned the name of the "bobble head" from owners of that model. ::) It didn't take BMW too long to change the design to a more conventional version. ;)
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LOL...glad I’m not the only who thought that when looking at the front brake fluid reservoir. I replaced mine with a blue Rizoma unit: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/rizoma-next-front-brake-reservoir
In your above link, did you read the reviews about the leaks from the bottom? You better keep an eye on that.
I just read them. Perhaps a little late as I have already received my blue Rizoma until and the mount. I have not yet replaced mine as I don't have my bike back from Redwood City yet.
BTW, was it a simple job to replace? Anything I should know before I start the job?
-Don- Cold Springs Valley, NV
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I did. I used the RG 21.5 Ohm resistors. Worked perfectly. Front and back.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/rg-racing-turn-signal-resistors
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21 Ohms? Isn't that a quarter of the power required of an incandescent?
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21 Ohms? Isn't that a quarter of the power required of an incandescent?
If it works and blinks at the correct speed, I would want the resistor to be as many ohms as possible so there is less of the energy changed into heat.
-Don- Reno, NV
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If it works and blinks at the correct speed, I would want the resistor to be as many ohms as possible so there is less of the energy changed into heat.
Fewer ohms = less heat.
But yes ^-^
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Fewer ohms = less heat.
You're wrong there. The resistors are across the lamps, the less resistance the more load and more heat. Zero Ohms is a dead short. A million ohm resistor would have too low of a heat to even measure. A 0.1 ohm resistor will be such a heavy load it will cause things to melt, hopefully a fuse. That's very close to a dead short.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Zero Ohms is no heat and therefore no power loss and therefore no wattage.
Electricity is weird.
-Crissa
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Zero Ohms is no heat and therefore no power loss and therefore no wattage.
Electricity is weird.
-Crissa
A true Zero ohms is not even possible. No heat across true zero ohms is true. Also no heat possible with infinite resistance. But you also need a battery with true zero internal resistance (and infinite current output) to prove either, , which is also not possible.
But usually when we refer to Zero ohms we simply means less than one tenth of an ohm or so and in practical stuff, that's a dead short. And when it's in the millions of megohms, we consider that an open circuit.
Imagine infinite current across a true zero ohms, including in the power source. Kinda difficult to imagine and if it were done, perhaps the world will blow up!
-Don- Reno, NV
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BTW, I never bother to change my turn signals to LED as I really see no advantage.
Advantage is easy - it looks just much more better than the original flaps ;-)
Same to the brake reservoir that looks like a urine cup in hospital... :-P
Your brake reservoir doesn't look quite as bad as the one on my 2009 BMW F650GS. It is mounted on a spring and earned the name of the "bobble head" from owners of that model. ::) It didn't take BMW too long to change the design to a more conventional version. ;)
I'd totally have embraced that, drawn a face on the reservoir and/or glued a lego minifigure on the lid... (-:
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BTW, I never bother to change my turn signals to LED as I really see no advantage. Especially when there is no saved energy as it is wasted in heat in the six ohm resistors.
IOW, either way, the waste is in heat. And it is very rare for turn signals to crap out. I probably still have my originals in my 1971 BMW. I don't even recall ever replacing a turn signal lamp on a motorcycle.
You experience is the opposite of mine and every rider's I know -- on every motorcycle/moped/scooter I've ever owned turn incandescent signal lamps had to replaced about once every 2 years at most
(that's one out of the four signals, not for each one). And about the same for rear light & brake light. It's been slightly better for cars, but not by much.
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You experience is the opposite of mine and every rider's I know -- on every motorcycle/moped/scooter I've ever owned turn incandescent signal lamps had to replaced about once every 2 years at most
(that's one out of the four signals, not for each one). And about the same for rear light & brake light. It's been slightly better for cars, but not by much.
Perhaps has mostly to do with vibrations caused by riding style and type of bike. Or if voltage is on the high side. I am mostly a touring rider and I do not ever recall changing a turn signal bulb on a motorcycle--but I have on cars.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Newer incandescents are just flatly more reliable than ones forty years ago, too.
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Hi,
Sorry to bring back an old thread but... I just ordered new turn signal. I guess they will come just with simple wire connector. Can anybody point me to the right connector adaptor for the Energicas?
Thanks!
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Can anybody point me to the right connector adaptor for the Energicas?
The easiest way would be to cut and splice the connectors from the stock signals onto the new ones.
If you do not want to sacrifice the stock units you can purchase the components needed to build connectors that are compatible with the factory harness.
You will need to use the appropriate crimping tools for the pins.
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/03-06-1023?qs=%2Fha2pyFadujPccvDUoseeJUAq0AbPqZJECmrmuwMp04%3D
(https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/03-06-1023?qs=%2Fha2pyFadujPccvDUoseeJUAq0AbPqZJECmrmuwMp04%3D)https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/02-06-1103?qs=%2Fha2pyFadujqcq6ujYFmiy%2Fdeu5c6ApfyYntnnXROnc%3D
(https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/02-06-1103?qs=%2Fha2pyFadujqcq6ujYFmiy%2Fdeu5c6ApfyYntnnXROnc%3D)
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/03-06-2023?qs=j5iQOXvqZx%252BMyATH7wHAWw%3D%3D&gclid=CjwKCAiA-_L9BRBQEiwA-bm5fhQcZBQySzh5KORvm2sjIo2LPkAgzTeqSKO5rzZ7Hndwp6XJKP-UVhoCRJsQAvD_BwE
(https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/03-06-2023?qs=j5iQOXvqZx%252BMyATH7wHAWw%3D%3D&gclid=CjwKCAiA-_L9BRBQEiwA-bm5fhQcZBQySzh5KORvm2sjIo2LPkAgzTeqSKO5rzZ7Hndwp6XJKP-UVhoCRJsQAvD_BwE)https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/02-06-2103?qs=%2Fha2pyFaduhC0HER4S2%2FlGJ0%2FQN3qzJ5F27g%252BKWL4TY%3D (https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/02-06-2103?qs=%2Fha2pyFaduhC0HER4S2%2FlGJ0%2FQN3qzJ5F27g%252BKWL4TY%3D)
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Excellent reference! Thanks Demoni!
I will try to preserve them... Just in case let say.