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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: skoleskibe on June 22, 2016, 02:59:49 AM
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Bought a 2015 SR today, thats so much the oposite to my lumbering dieselbike.
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You have a diesel motorcycle?
What's the MPG on that? >100MPG?
I'd imagine that the acceleration doesn't come close to that of the Zero.
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Between 100 and 125 mpg. Top speed 50-55 mph 8-10 hp
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Between 100 and 125 mpg. Top speed 50-55 mph 8-10 hp
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Sounds like an Indian-made Royal Enfield to me. They made a diesel motorcycle some years ago, but it was not all that popular and was discontinued after a short model run.
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Well it's a 1981 MZ TS 250/1 modified with a Yanmar l100 engine, 408cc 8-10bhp at 3000-3600rpm, fed to a comet cvt. works like a charm
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Ride one with a nice 3 cylinder kubota and you will have a different opinion :) :)
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Can't afford a kubota engine, just used all my money on a Zero. LOL
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hehehe!
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Or a 3 cilinder mercedes diesel with cvt?
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Or a 3 cilinder mercedes diesel with cvt?
Or one of those! :)
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I do have a ruggerini 2 cylinder 650cc though
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Now i only need to figure out What to do, when i need to recharg at public charging stations here in the EU. I manager to go just about 170km on a charge leading 9% charge left, under optimum conditions as tailwind and going 65-80km/h all the time.
Had i had headwind i would have had to charge it.
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Now i only need to figure out What to do, when i need to recharg at public charging stations here in the EU. I manager to go just about 170km on a charge leading 9% charge left, under optimum conditions as tailwind and going 65-80km/h all the time.
Had i had headwind i would have had to charge it.
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What country are you in?
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I live in Denmark.
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Charging should be not that difficult, here in the Netherlands you can set up an account and you get send a RFID tag, just press it against a station and you can start charging, at the end of the month you get a bill for the total amount.
It should be almost the same in Denmark.
You do need to make/buy a Mennekes-Danish plug(or C13) Adapter to though.
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Ok, so i can trust that each phase is 220-240V, meaning it'll be possible to use both onboard and Quick charger at the same time ;-)
Maybe even 2 HP esp
120 psu
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Look at Eltek Flatpack DC rectifiers.
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@alexanderfoti
I've used almost all my means buying the bike ;-)
The HP PSU's available at a low cost, maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the elcons, and it delivers in exces of 50amps.
Would like to see the total wiring mess though ;-/
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@alexanderfoti
I've used almost all my means buying the bike ;-)
The HP PSU's available at a low cost, maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the elcons, and it delivers in exces of 50amps.
Would like to see the total wiring mess though ;-/
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I know the feeling! The elteks can be had for £80 or so each, so for £320 you have 8KW of charging capacity!
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@alexanderfoti
I've used almost all my means buying the bike ;-)
The HP PSU's available at a low cost, maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the elcons, and it delivers in exces of 50amps.
Would like to see the total wiring mess though ;-/
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What HP PSUs are you looking to use?
Most of them are 12v (12.5v really) and are heavily regulated. even if you stack 9 of them to get 112.5, you still need to regulate the amperage by turning them down. it becomes a huge pain but it can be done. Some crowbar with too much load.
That said, it can be done, how depends on the PSUs
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They are HP ESP 120 server PSU's. Good for just shy of 3kw a piece. They'r rather cheap, but heavy and bulky.
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They are HP ESP 120 server PSU's. Good for just shy of 3kw a piece. They'r rather cheap, but heavy and bulky.
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ok.. you know you cannot just directly connect them, right? they will push whatever current they need to, to try to get the battery up to their set voltage... even if that current exceeds their max rating.
if the max is exceeded, they will shut down.
You will need someway to throttle current.
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Most of them are 12v (12.5v really) and are heavily regulated. even if you stack 9 of them to get 112.5, you still need to regulate the amperage by turning them down.
if the max is exceeded, they will shut down.
Yeah, well, no, these days rack mounted equipment usually runs at 48V nominal. Rack-mounted power supplies are designed to run cc/cv mode, so you can easily parallel them, which us what what they're designed to do. But because they're cc/cv, they also serialize well....one will be in cc mode, the other in cv mode, until the battery is charged, where they'll both be in cv mode. Nominal voltage is 48, but can usually be tweaked up to 58V or so, which is perfect for our needs, with two in series.
ok.. you know you cannot just directly connect them, right? they will push whatever current they need to, to try to get the battery up to their set voltage... even if that current exceeds their max rating.
if the max is exceeded, they will shut down.
You will need someway to throttle current.
See above comment about cc/cv mode. You can't hurt these supplies by connecting them in series or parallel. They'll push their maximum current up to their maximum voltage; less than that, they limit themselves without harm. They're designed to do that safely.
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really making some sort of quick charger would be nice, wether eltek or hp esp's
By the way, here in the EU the mains voltage is 220-240v and (where i live) the fuse range is 10 or 13amp. Why not parallel 2 stock chargers ie buy an extra gwp 1200 charger and mount it underneath the factory mounted one. Thus doubling the amperage, and still using the standard prong on the side of the bike. Only downside is that the height betw asphalt and bottom of the bike will be lowered app 5cm. It'll be more convenient than using the quiq charger from zero, as it'll use no luggage space, and could be hardwired in. downside is that its only halving the charge time, as opposed to the eltek or hp esp that'll that'll be able to reduce the chargetime to about or below 2 hours. using 400v 13 or 16 amp's fuses
can't find the price of the gwp 1200 anywhere ;-/
Nah it's probably too expensive ;-D
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Yeah, well, no, these days rack mounted equipment usually runs at 48V nominal. Rack-mounted power supplies are designed to run cc/cv mode, so you can easily parallel them, which us what what they're designed to do. But because they're cc/cv, they also serialize well....one will be in cc mode, the other in cv mode, until the battery is charged, where they'll both be in cv mode. Nominal voltage is 48, but can usually be tweaked up to 58V or so, which is perfect for our needs, with two in series.
See above comment about cc/cv mode. You can't hurt these supplies by connecting them in series or parallel. They'll push their maximum current up to their maximum voltage; less than that, they limit themselves without harm. They're designed to do that safely.
doug, most rack mount units are NOT cc/cv supplies. They pair off current share pins, that way the "highest" one doesnt work harder.
While ive seen a few RC heli guys mention it, none of them actually have shown that it is CC.
They do have a full voltage adjustment if you wire it up, and that can be used with some circuitry to make them CC/CV, but they're not current limiting as is. You cant just wire them in series and use them.
also, they only run off 220, so you'll need that... but considering the wattage, I assume everyone knows that already.