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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: Electric Terry on April 26, 2016, 04:10:12 AM
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It looks amazing!!!
http://corbin.com/zero/zero13.shtml (http://corbin.com/zero/zero13.shtml)
And less than $400!!!
Corbins custom seats are usually in the $800 and up range so this is a real treat!!
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Oh HAIL yes!
Now we just need to convince Mike there's good money to be made in the fairing business.
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Whoa! Corbin delivered. Maybe Corbin will deliver something else, too... :)
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Well, it looks like an improvement over the Corbin Zero seat that I bought for my 2012 S. That thing was hard and flat. ::)
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I can't decide if I'm more excited that it's a nice Corbin seat or that I can customize it to be blue.
In any case, Corbin has separated me from $400 now for a Very Blue seat.
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This looks great and priced rather well. Chomping at the bit to order mine. Just waiting for all the ducks to get in line :D. Brown seat.
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Black/black/black with a silver welt for me!
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That's awesome! Thanks Terry for your role in making that happen. I'm sure you had something to do with it…. Definitely will be looking into this very soon.
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Very nice, I like black, black, black for the DSR. I wonder if it will fit OK with the Givi Top Box in place? Looks like it would.
Steve
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First users please respond, I find the stock hard and short for a 6' guy
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Imagine how a 6'4" guy feels ;-(
To me, the stock seat is angled too much forward/down. Today I pushed myself a bit more towards the rear of the seat where it widens and it is quite comfortable there. However, holding that position requires too much effort - the seat is sloped down and I slide back down to the uncomfortable section.
Looking at the side by side photo of the Corbin vs. Stock seat, the Corbin appears more horizontal than stock, which means my backside will more naturally settle over the wider and more comfortable area more towards the rear vs. stock. Or so it seems.
I wonder if I can raise the front of the stock seat or lower the rear to achieve that effect?
First users please respond, I find the stock hard and short for a 6' guy
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Some more pictures after my test ride today
https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/1003996693002872/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/1003996693002872/)
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Is it better than the stock in terms of comfort? Looks great!
Unfortunately, from your photo, it looks like it is still angled downwards forward, just like the stock seat is. I'd be quite happy with the stock seat if I could seat in the wider rear part without being pushed to slide forwards when I do that. I'm contemplating just rising the two rails that hold the front seat to the frame so I can mount the stock seat higher in the front (will have to deal with the gap somehow).
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The photo must be misleading, it is flat compared to the stock seat for sure
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Any chance Corbin will make a seat for the FX? ;D
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I might have to get one of those! ;D
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My only problem is they're are so many combinations that I am stalling for my DSR because "oh, black with white stitching? Black with brown seat leather? Red seat leather? No maybe red piping? Bomber black or natural black? What color for the stitching?"
So on and so forth... But they've done an incredible job by the look of it!
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Which materials did you pick? Looks great on your black SR!
Some more pictures after my test ride today
https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/1003996693002872/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/zmcowners/1003996693002872/)
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I have until Tuesday to decide. I have an appt to get a custom one made to assist with carrying my dog Charger. I'm leaning towards black with blue piping tho. The bike in the pictures was Mike Corbins personal Zero motorcycle.
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Oh, thought it was yours...
I have until Tuesday to decide. I have an appt to get a custom one made to assist with carrying my dog Charger. I'm leaning towards black with blue piping tho. The bike in the pictures was Mike Corbins personal Zero motorcycle.
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I have until Tuesday to decide. I have an appt to get a custom one made to assist with carrying my dog Charger. I'm leaning towards black with blue piping tho. The bike in the pictures was Mike Corbins personal Zero motorcycle.
So how did it feel? Was it better than straddling a 2x6? That's what my SR's seat reminds me of.
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I have spent multiple hours playing with their customization tool...
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Got my seat today and it is AMAZING!!!!
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At first I thought the price was a little bit high, but the pictures don't lie, that's one well thought out and beautiful piece of work, can you tell me if they use the same seat pan or if you can just order one and bolt it on
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At first I thought the price was a little bit high, but the pictures don't lie, that's one well thought out and beautiful piece of work, can you tell me if they use the same seat pan or if you can just order one and bolt it on
You just order one and bolt it on. But you need to take 2 allen screws out of your stock seat and transfer the bracket over, takes less than a minute.
My seat is modified to make it easier to carry my pup. I was having a little trouble seeing over her head recently as she has grown, and also she was having trouble fitting between me and the windscreen when she wanted to lay down. So I moved the rider seat area 1 1/2" farther back, just over 2" higher, and a little wider in the back area. But everything else is the same as the Corbin seat you order. Charger is much happier now that she fits better. :)
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Can you elaborate on this? I would not mind higher seat for myself and it being a bit farther back might not be a bad idea too. How did you work these details out with Corbin? Did it affect the price?
My seat is modified to make it easier to carry my pup. I was having a little trouble seeing over her head recently as she has grown, and also she was having trouble fitting between me and the windscreen when she wanted to lay down. So I moved the rider seat area 1 1/2" farther back, just over 2" higher, and a little wider in the back area. But everything else is the same as the Corbin seat you order. Charger is much happier now that she fits better. :)
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Kocho to make it custom you must ride it in to have one of the seat wizards work on it in person which costs a lot more. People ride from all over the country every day however to do this. If it weren't for my dog I would have just had the seat installed like Corbin designed it.
Remember the Corbin seat already gives you more leg room by allowing you to sit much further back than the stock seat. I'll bet you like it just as it is, just pick the colors you want.
Has anyone ordered one and received it yet or expecting to receive it soon?
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Thanks!
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A lot depends on how tall you are. I bought a Corbin for my Beemer R65, and I had to heavily modify it, since I'm only 5'6". Otherwise, it would've been much more uncomfortable than the stock seat.
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At first I thought the price was a little bit high, but the pictures don't lie, that's one well thought out and beautiful piece of work, can you tell me if they use the same seat pan or if you can just order one and bolt it on
You just order one and bolt it on. But you need to take 2 allen screws out of your stock seat and transfer the bracket over, takes less than a minute.
My seat is modified to make it easier to carry my pup. I was having a little trouble seeing over her head recently as she has grown, and also she was having trouble fitting between me and the windscreen when she wanted to lay down. So I moved the rider seat area 1 1/2" farther back, just over 2" higher, and a little wider in the back area. But everything else is the same as the Corbin seat you order. Charger is much happier now that she fits better. :)
I'm still amazed how comfortable Charger is riding on the tank of a frigging bike.
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Just ordered mine this morning. Now the long 3-4 week wait begins...
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Wow. Charger is getting big!
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Got my seat today and it is AMAZING!!!!
Looks great! Thanks for sharing. Cannot wait to get mine, wait time seems long but am still waiting on delivery of the bike :D so all is good.
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I'm still amazed how comfortable Charger is riding on the tank of a frigging bike.
I'm thinking of this.
http://youtu.be/BGdh_g91B_A (http://youtu.be/BGdh_g91B_A)
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I'm still amazed how comfortable Charger is riding on the tank of a frigging bike.
follow Charger on facebook (pic and video)
www.facebook.com/ChargerTheDog (http://www.facebook.com/ChargerTheDog)
plus some insight into supercharger testing (for instance yesterday in Palo Alto)
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I ordering mine in a week and cannot wait. very excited about the new seat. :)
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Has anybody got there new seat and if so how do you like it as far as comfort and looks.
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Ordered mine the day Terry posted this thread and I haven't heard or seen a thing yet.
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It looks flatter and wider than the regular seat. Also ordered but have 2-3 weeks to wait still.
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Anyone want to sell me their stock seat for a S/SR, let me know.
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I visited the Quail motorcycle gathering today, and got to meet Mike Corbin and catch up with Terry on his current riding setup and check out his custom seat. Everyone seems very enthusiastic about making the Zero experience better and addicted to electric riding, so I feel more confident about seeing further support in the future.
I did not have the chance to meet Craig Vetter but did meet his son who shared this enthusiasm. Overall I tried to convey concerns and also the desires of the community. I don't think I could tell for sure how many seat orders for Zeros had been made but hopefully it's worth their while.
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After a 250 mile day, I must say the stock seat needs some improvement for touring. I need to fix my Airhawk before the Corbin arrives.
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After a 250 mile day, I must say the stock seat needs some improvement for touring. I need to fix my Airhawk before the Corbin arrives.
250 miles? When people ask me how far I can go on a charge, I tell 'em "About as far as I can stand this seat!"
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After a 250 mile day, I must say the stock seat needs some improvement for touring. I need to fix my Airhawk before the Corbin arrives.
250 miles? When people ask me how far I can go on a charge, I tell 'em "About as far as I can stand this seat!"
250 miles involved three charging stops with a single Elcon (4kW total which recovers range at a 37mph rate) over the course of the day.
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Great seeing you at the show Brian! I had done 250 mile days on bike before the Corbin seat, but as soon as I got it I wanted to go further lol. I can't wait for yours to arrive. If you go by his shop in Hollister you will see seat molds moving down the assembly line at the rate of about a seat every 2 minutes. Over 300 packages leave the Corbin shipping dock each day.
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I definitely shift around on the stock seat during any 200+ day of riding. The 2012 seat was nice because sliding forward and backward allowed a variety of positions (and pressure points). The 2013+ seats definitely push you forward a bit.
Looking forward to the Corbin seat!
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Nothing for the FX platform?! Gaaaaaawl!!!
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Ordered mine two days ago (all Black, sliver CF piping, silver Logo)... Can't wait!
Steve
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Ordered mine yesterday, black with red piping (for the 2016 SR), dark logo.
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Awesome guys, I'll bet you can't wait! The black with red piping and black with silver sounds awesome!! I can't wait to see all these different combinations on Zero's! I went with black and blue piping and love it!
btw I rode 518 miles the other day to Solvang and back from Santa Cruz and it was so much better than the stock seat! I could have kept going and going!!
There's some good pictures of the seat, and charging with the supercharger for those interested here:
https://www.facebook.com/ElectricTerry (https://www.facebook.com/ElectricTerry)
Scroll back to the posts from May 12th.
Here's a picture from May 12th charging at moonstone beach. You can see a good angle of the seat here.
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I bought the heated seat from Zero. As a year round commuter there is no way I can go back to a seat without heat.
Can the seat from Corbin be order with a heating element? I saw this in the notes tab of Corbin's web page for the Zero seat.
WARNING: Heater elements (when available) should never be installed in motorcycle seats that will be used by riders that cannot sense heat. This could create a hazardous condition.
However, I couldn't find an option when ordering to make it a heated seat.
Has anyone order a seat with heat? What about adding a heating element after purchase...can it be done?
With this seat using real leather...can it survive year round weather?
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Got a tracking notification last night...FedEx wants to deliver me something tomorrow from Corbin!
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Oooh I wonder what that could be... :)
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Got a tracking notification last night...FedEx wants to deliver me something tomorrow from Corbin!
Jealous! Looking forward to pix!
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Excited to see people's color choices/options! :)
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I'm officially very happy with my black/black/black with a silver welt. Sorry she's a little bit filthy, but we got caught in a rain shower yesterday, and instead of today being bath day, it was new seat day!
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Not too happy with the shape of the new Corbin,
liked what I had on my 2011 Zero S Corbin.
So I ordered one "like new" from Ohio on ebay,
will try to fit a 2012 Zero S Corbin seat to my
2014 Zero S. It'll let me sit forward like the
current seat but also scoot my butt back to
a flatter section for variety and tucking.
It's not ideal for carrying a passenger, so I'll
probably keep both, configured for quick-change.
But it sure is good to see Corbin supporting
Zero customers and Zero customers supporting
Corbin!
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Has anybody actually received their Corbin or heard back from them after ordering?
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Looks like Doug got his and is happy with it. My order was mixed up but they fixed it that day so it should come in just fine. Haven't heard from the yet and it has been 3 weeks so far.
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Well, I very much like the color scheme I picked. It's a gorgeous seat, no two ways about it.
I'm not quite as convinced with the shape just yet. I imagine there's some variation in any handmade product, and I didn't ride up to Hollister for a custom fitting, but my experience with the shape has been a bit different than Terry's. Mine seems very flat front to back (front seat only), and if anything, it's either a little higher or compresses less under my weight (I'm a big guy), so my feet are actually a bit further from the ground than on the stock seat...which is fine for me, I can still get both feet flat, but for shorter riders I don't think the seat I got would offer any help. Then again, I didn't ask them to make it shorter, or lower the front.
I do very much like the rounded "shoulders" on the front part of the seat. It's much easier to keep my knees in out of the windstream, which I'm sure gives at least a small range improvement. But toward the rear of the front seat are two small bolsters on the sides, which I don't like at all. The increased amount of foam results in an odd "double-scoop" effect on the front portion which is just not ideal, at least for me. I think I'd be happier if they just continued the rounded shoulders all the way to the end of the front portion of the seat. That would be pretty much the perfect seat for me.
One of the benefits of getting a seat from Corbin is the opportunity for customization. I'm going to ride it for a bit more and then decide if I want to send it back for a bit of tweaking. But if you have the opportunity, you really should go to the factory and try out some of the options they have available. Nothing substitutes for a good test-sit.
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It appears that my order had been dropped, but thankfully I have time/range to visit the factory and they were kind enough to arrange to have it built once I arrive at the same cost. Customer service was very considerate about the whole situation but did confirm that orders have a typical 3-4 week turnaround time right now.
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Today, I visited the Corbin factory and got an onsite fitment at no extra charge! I rode 85 miles southeast this morning in one stretch, arriving with 7% charge and ready to use the free L2 charging station at full capacity, which was nice.
The design was not fully blue as I preferred but they only have certain materials in blue which are not suitable for the working surface, so instead I got a nice blue band on each side that adds to the blue DSR highlights.
My duffle bag returned awkwardly full of my stock seat along with charging accessories but it'll be much nicer regularly just holding charging kit to relieve the load on my top box.
I did charge halfway on the return to compensate for headwinds, but charged at full rate so didn't lose too much time. I'll report more on the seat when I'm not distracted by pointy objects against my back. :)
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Got my black-black-black with silver welt today. Turned out to be an interesting install. When I removed the old seat I found a mouse nest in the area behind the tail light! The little buggers had trashed the tail-light wires and as it turns out, caused a short. I had not noticed my tail light was no longer working. Well, a bit of electrical repair, a fuse and a couple of hours later, my new seat is on, my tail light works, the mice have moved out, and my seat looks good...
I just did a quick break in ride (around 15 miles) and the seat is pretty hard to start with (expected). I like the shape though. Hopefully it will break in well.
Steve
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My girlfriend has reviewed the passenger seat positively, at least for a short ride. She really found it to be an improvement.
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Got my black-black-black with silver welt today. Turned out to be an interesting install. When I removed the old seat I found a mouse nest in the area behind the tail light! The little buggers had trashed the tail-light wires and as it turns out, caused a short. I had not noticed my tail light was no longer working. Well, a bit of electrical repair, a fuse and a couple of hours later, my new seat is on, my tail light works, the mice have moved out, and my seat looks good...
I just did a quick break in ride (around 15 miles) and the seat is pretty hard to start with (expected). I like the shape though. Hopefully it will break in well.
Steve
You have good taste in vehicles. I spy an NA Miata in the background (I have a 91 and I love it to bits).
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Here is mine for those who haven't seen it already in Facebook. The blue goes nicely with the lightning.
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Here is mine for those who haven't seen it already in Facebook. The blue goes nicely with the lightning.
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Is the lightning a wrap or did you get it painted?
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Got my black-black-black with silver welt today. Turned out to be an interesting install. When I removed the old seat I found a mouse nest in the area behind the tail light! The little buggers had trashed the tail-light wires and as it turns out, caused a short. I had not noticed my tail light was no longer working. Well, a bit of electrical repair, a fuse and a couple of hours later, my new seat is on, my tail light works, the mice have moved out, and my seat looks good...
I just did a quick break in ride (around 15 miles) and the seat is pretty hard to start with (expected). I like the shape though. Hopefully it will break in well.
Steve
You have good taste in vehicles. I spy an NA Miata in the background (I have a 91 and I love it to bits).
Yep, it's a 90. What a great car. Looks like we both have great taste in vehicles!
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Here is mine for those who haven't seen it already in Facebook. The blue goes nicely with the lightning.
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Is the lightning a wrap or did you get it painted?
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It was painted by an airbrush artist, SM Airbrushing in Northern NJ.
There is also a lithium atom and a portrait of Nikola Tesla.
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I just did a quick break in ride (around 15 miles) and the seat is pretty hard to start with (expected). I like the shape though. Hopefully it will break in well.
Steve
That Corbin hard foam takes forever to adapt to a person's butt. If I recall, they state 1,000 miles or something like that. I miss the days of stock seats that had soft foam in them.
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It was painted by an airbrush artist, SM Airbrushing in Northern NJ.
There is also a lithium atom and a portrait of Nikola Tesla.
I thought it looked painted but I remember you posting about getting a wrap so I had to ask.
It looks awesome!
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Got my Corbin over the weekend also... just got to try it out for the ride into work. Seat position is a bit further back, so I was leaning a bit more on the ride... not bad at all, just will take getting used to. Comfortable seat though!
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Wow Eolas! The red piping on the SR looks so good!!
Anyone with a yellow S get a seat yet? I'll bet that one with yellow piping would look awesome too.
Yeah 1000 miles sounds about right for break-in. It happens so quick you hardly notice it though.
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After installing my Corbin on my 16 DSR, I have a small gap on the tail between the frame and the seat (about 3/8"). Do others get a tight fit on the tail after install? I can't find anything binding...
Steve
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After installing my Corbin on my 16 DSR, I have a small gap on the tail between the frame and the seat (about 3/8"). Do others get a tight fit on the tail after install? I can't find anything binding...
Same, but I thought the gap was smaller, under ¼" but enough to see a sliver of daylight through.
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Has anybody got there new seat and if so how do you like it as far as comfort and looks.
I have had my 2015 Zero S for a year and it is a great bike except for one thing - the seat. After 2 hours I feel as if I have been on a horse all day. Recently I bought a Corbin seat but unfortunately it was no improvement. It looks nice but the widened seat area is much further back and I have to lean forward quite a bit to reach the handlebars. Adjusting the handlebars didn't help. The place where I sit is just as hard as the stock seat. I met a guy that has a Honda Goldwing and he replaced his seat with one made by "Ultimate Seats". Very comfortable seat but I don't think they make any for zeros.
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Check with Russell Day Long. They'll build a seat on your stock seat pan (which means you won't have a seat while you're waiting) to your specification. I've always thought they look WEIRD but the people who have them swear by them.
I don't have any issues with the stock seat myself. I don't ride the bike continuously long enough for it to become an issue. I MIGHT consider the Corbin if for nothing else, a styling thing (since it can be ordered in whatever color combination you like at no extra charge).
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Do you feel the widened part is flat enough to not cause you to slide forward? The wide part of the Zero seat I find quite comfortable, but it is angled forward and I can't really sit there - I keep sliding forward.
Where are you located? If anywhere near the DC area, I'd like to try your Corbin. For me, being quite tall, I would love to be able to sit more towards the rear...
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My Corbin seat has been a godsend to me and my over sized back side. But I do not have an issue reaching my handle bars. My only grip is the Alligator pattern of the leather on the seat has stretched out to the point it is almost gone. If could do a do over I would pick black snake to match the sides or gray snake to create some contrast and reduce radiant heat build up.
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I learned my lesson YEARS ago. I find gray leather is the best surface for the area you actually SIT on. Light enough to reflect most of the sun's heat, dark enough to hide the dirt, and (unlike vinyl) the leather breathes to help prevent "swamp butt."
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The original seat angle also bothered me. I was always sliding into the tank, and missed the raked-back or bucket seats of my other bikes.
I had this seat made of ostrich skin (to mimic the painted fish skin), and you can see it is more of a bucket. It's far more comfortable although, a 6' 1", I'd prefer the seat moved back several inches, if it was possible.
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I've got over 10,000 miles on my Corbin seat now and its broken in perfect and it makes my rides every few weeks to Los Angeles and back to Northern California on my Zero so easy. Mine I can slide forward at stop lights or slow speed riding around town, but when getting on the highway I slide back all the way, put my feet on the passenger pegs and Charger actually slides back too and lays down.
Here's a pic I got sent to me a couple days ago (although the pic is 3 months old) with me sitting in the middle of my available range. Can slide back more or go forward. The Corbin is great! But it's a little hard to start from what you expect.
But its supposed to be that way. It's like a properly sized helmet will feel like it's too tight and uncomfortable for the first few weeks, until eventually it fits the shape of your head perfect. Just so you don't plan 1000 mile trip the first day you get it. Lots of small trips the first couple months will prepare it for that Iron Butt attempt. :)
The last pic is me picking up a friend from the airport a month ago. So I slide forward, and it leaves room for a passenger. But when riding alone it offers a huge range of mobility which is how I ride most of the time. If you are well under 6 feet you can get Rox risers for your handlebars so you can reach them easier while sitting all the way back. Once you have these choices you'll really appreciate it more if you ever have to ride a stock seat again. Sort of like those of us who didn't mind the Fast Ace suspension at all, until we rode a 2015 and 2016 for a while with the Showa suspension and then we went back to a 2014 or earlier for a short ride and were like "Woah! Where did all the bumps come from in that road??" ;)
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Are the torx fasteners for the seat inch or metric?
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Are the torx fasteners for the seat inch or metric?
Metric...5mm I think. My 2014 Zero S is Allen head though, not torx. Not sure if they changed it for 2015 or 2016.
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Are the torx fasteners for the seat inch or metric?
""Replace the seat and tighten the T-45 Torx bolts 16 lb-ft (MY2015+) or 5mm socket head bolts 16 lb-ft (MY2013/MY2014; extras are provided) back in through the rear rack frame.""
Source: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Common_Modifications#OEM_Top_Rack (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Common_Modifications#OEM_Top_Rack)
Everything I can find is metric and the torque is specified most commonly in lb-ft (not Nm nor kg-cm).
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After installing my Corbin on my 16 DSR, I have a small gap on the tail between the frame and the seat (about 3/8"). Do others get a tight fit on the tail after install? I can't find anything binding...
Same, but I thought the gap was smaller, under ¼" but enough to see a sliver of daylight through.
Update: the seat sits better now in the tail that I've been using it for a while (3000 miles or so at this point) and there's no apparent wear from that. I do make sure to avoid using the seat bolts regularly; basically I optimized around the issue.
The seat still tends to feel firm but my circulation is great even after a long time in the saddle, so it's doing its job. Honestly, it's a great seat and hopefully the fit issues are just an initial distraction.
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Yes Brian the Corbin seat is great and I love it. After we had a chance to talk to him, I am surprised at the fact he seemed to indicate such a small number of them have been ordered. Since we were hoping he could make a fairing that would hopefully close to double the highway range, which all of us would like, I'm curious to hear from those that didn't get the seat what your reasons were. He's afraid there aren't enough Zero's out there to support the time to design a mold for a fairing. The seat mold only cost $5000 to make the fairing will be $50,000 or more to make. And he says not enough people bought the seat to make it look like it is going to even break even?
To get him to feel like there are enough of us out there that like to make mods to our Zero's it would help to post about the seat if you got it and love it, and if you were thinking about it, to read some reviews here and order one yourself!
Hopefully that will change his mind and he will start working on a bolt on fairing that fits the 2013-2016 bikes perfectly.
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I just bought a seat and indicated that I would be interested in a fairing.
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The seat is GREAT!
I would love to see ideas for a bikini faring.
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I am surprised at the fact he seemed to indicate such a small number of them have been ordered. Since we were hoping he could make a fairing that would hopefully close to double the highway range, which all of us would like, I'm curious to hear from those that didn't get the seat what your reasons were. He's afraid there aren't enough Zero's out there to support the time to design a mold for a fairing. The seat mold only cost $5000 to make the fairing will be $50,000 or more to make. And he says not enough people bought the seat to make it look like it is going to even break even?
To get him to feel like there are enough of us out there that like to make mods to our Zero's it would help to post about the seat if you got it and love it, and if you were thinking about it, to read some reviews here and order one yourself!
Hopefully that will change his mind and he will start working on a bolt on fairing that fits the 2013-2016 bikes perfectly.
It can't just be Corbin with that concern: although $50,000 sounds high, just from the amount of time involved, the Supercharger clearly cost more than that to develop, just made as a labor of love partly to keep the overhead low.
For reference, OEM development probably would cost 5-10x what a third party can get away with, because the vehicle manufacturer has to test everything for the US DOT and the EU and any other regulator which has a lot of overhead, AND they have to eat the marketing issues that come with changing the shape of the vehicle that might make all their sales plans much riskier than they wanted.
From my outlook, Corbin seems like the most promising lead for this community to get a range improvement that's better than the Power Tank and doesn't require spending a summer project doing DIY fabrication and fitting, and that means we have to be worth the investment.
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I'm curious to hear from those that didn't get the seat what your reasons were.
1. The stock seat works fine for me. My commutes are short, and my butt is still fine at the end of them.
2. I don't like the look of the Corbin, and don't think it enhances the look of the bike.
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Yes Brian the Corbin seat is great and I love it. After we had a chance to talk to him, I am surprised at the fact he seemed to indicate such a small number of them have been ordered. Since we were hoping he could make a fairing that would hopefully close to double the highway range, which all of us would like, I'm curious to hear from those that didn't get the seat what your reasons were. He's afraid there aren't enough Zero's out there to support the time to design a mold for a fairing. The seat mold only cost $5000 to make the fairing will be $50,000 or more to make. And he says not enough people bought the seat to make it look like it is going to even break even?
To get him to feel like there are enough of us out there that like to make mods to our Zero's it would help to post about the seat if you got it and love it, and if you were thinking about it, to read some reviews here and order one yourself!
Hopefully that will change his mind and he will start working on a bolt on fairing that fits the 2013-2016 bikes perfectly.
Priorities...I have a short commute so daily use is fine with the stock seat.
For long range...first priority is fast charging (DigiNow... check)... second priority is range...a fairing that gets close to double highway range would be awesome and worth a close look. If the performance was there I would be in even if the looks aren't the best...if it looks awesome, provides good wind protection and significantly increases range (but not 'close to double') then I would be in. If I had significantly more range and fast charge times then I would have to think about a new seat.
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My girlfriend has reviewed the passenger seat positively, at least for a short ride. She really found it to be an improvement.
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That's funny because I was ready to go Corbin but they specifically told me they could not make the passenger more comfortable.
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My girlfriend has reviewed the passenger seat positively, at least for a short ride. She really found it to be an improvement.
That's funny because I was ready to go Corbin but they specifically told me they could not make the passenger more comfortable.
I'm unsure why it works for her, but she also prefers the Zero passenger seat over my 2012 V-Strom 650's, specifically for being narrower. Body shapes and fit are not quite how we usually think of them.
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Terry, I don't think there will be the demand for after market seats for electric motorcycles like there is for ICE motorcycles. I had a Corbin for my 2012 DL650 V-Strom and just ordered one for my 2015 V-Strom. They are far better than stock. But I don't have any interest in getting one for my SR. With my DL650 on the highway I can go 3 hrs + on a tank of gas. Stop, refuel in about 10-15 minutes and get back on the road. But traveling with the SR is very different. With the SR at highway speeds I can go an hour- hour and a half before I need to stop and recharge, typically 1:45- 2:00 with Elcons. The stock seat on the SR is comfortable for me for the riding time between charging sessions. The charging sessions for the SR are long enough to completely relax and recharge the body. If I traveled with my V-Strom like I do my SR I doubt I would have a Corbin on my V-Strom. If you spend 12 hours a day traveling on a motorcycle the amount of time you spend on the seat of an ICE motorcycle is far higher than the seat time of an electric motorcycle. As the range of electric motorcycles increases and charging times decrease the need for aftermarket seats will increase. Vinny
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My girlfriend has reviewed the passenger seat positively, at least for a short ride. She really found it to be an improvement.
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That's funny because I was ready to go Corbin but they specifically told me they could not make the passenger more comfortable.
The wizards can modify anything you want, to any way you want with the ride in service. The ones ordered online or over the phone are kept to the mold that they feel will satisfy 99% of people. I would ride in with your passenger one weekend, or if out of town, fly in, mike has a Zero there in the showroom you can test ride with your passenger. But I've heard from many others, including myself who takes a lot of passengers to and from the airport (twice this week already) and everyone has said its better and more padded than the stock passenger seat. But if customization and making it exactly right for your passengers needs, its worth it for you to make the trek to Corbin to get the wizards to work on it. Every time I'm there, someone is there from more than 1000 miles away just to make it "exactly" right.
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Here is my Corbin seat with Black Snake on the sides and Black Alligator seat and yellow piping.
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I looked at their website but couldn't find the FX or FXS. That's OK, I don't want them either. Harumph.
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I looked at their website but couldn't find the FX or FXS. That's OK, I don't want them either. Harumph.
Pretty sure you can just ask for one. The FX pan is one they know.
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
It definitely is designed to allow seating further back. I'll have to measure when I get home, but the visual comparison tool on the website shows a good three inches, and it's sculpted for flat seating right up to the transition.
I like it specifically so I can lean forward enough to smooth the airflow down my back behind the Parabellum.
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I am totally getting a Corbin seat! Just not a matter of if but a matter of when. Just counting my pennies ATM... Diginow supercharger:-P
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
This is my issue as well. I am 6' tall and find myself sitting on the pillion because it is more comfortable. I don't really care about taking a passenger either so one long well padded seat would be perfect for me. Sitting normally on the bike causes my nuts to get smashed. Makes you feel like a perv making sack adjustments ;D
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
It definitely is designed to allow seating further back. I'll have to measure when I get home, but the visual comparison tool on the website shows a good three inches, and it's sculpted for flat seating right up to the transition.
I like it specifically so I can lean forward enough to smooth the airflow down my back behind the Parabellum.
After my tire change, I'll start looking into a Corbin (one thing at a time). The stock seat is my only major complaint on an otherwise really fun bike.
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
It definitely is designed to allow seating further back. I'll have to measure when I get home, but the visual comparison tool on the website shows a good three inches, and it's sculpted for flat seating right up to the transition.
I like it specifically so I can lean forward enough to smooth the airflow down my back behind the Parabellum.
After my tire change, I'll start looking into a Corbin (one thing at a time). The stock seat is my only major complaint on an otherwise really fun bike.
And Air Hawk pad might be a less-expensive option worth looking into. It provides some extra height and can fill in the seat "bowl" a bit. ???
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
It definitely is designed to allow seating further back. I'll have to measure when I get home, but the visual comparison tool on the website shows a good three inches, and it's sculpted for flat seating right up to the transition.
I like it specifically so I can lean forward enough to smooth the airflow down my back behind the Parabellum.
After my tire change, I'll start looking into a Corbin (one thing at a time). The stock seat is my only major complaint on an otherwise really fun bike.
And Air Hawk pad might be a less-expensive option worth looking into. It provides some extra height and can fill in the seat "bowl" a bit. ???
I have an Air Hawk that I bought for a previous bike. Thought I'd try it for a highway jaunt on the Zero, but it elevated me far too much. (though possibly I had too much air in it).
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FYI: Unfortunately I purchased a Corbin seat for my 2015 Zero S only to discover that it was no better (comfort wise) than the stock seat. It does look nicer but that is all I got for $450. I would recommend that anyone wanting this seat to find a Zero with this seat and go for a 2 hour ride. See my post #75 on July 25, 2016.
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FYI: Unfortunately I purchased a Corbin seat for my 2015 Zero S only to discover that it was no better (comfort wise) than the stock seat. It does look nicer but that is all I got for $450. I would recommend that anyone wanting this seat to find a Zero with this seat and go for a 2 hour ride. See my post #75 on July 25, 2016.
Let us know in 5000 miles if that improves; The stock seat on my DSR sure hasn't gotten any more comfortable in 5k miles! :)
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Corbins need a few hundred miles to break in and conform to your particular posterior. That's been my experience over the decades. My most recent Corbin is on my 2013 BMW C650GT. Took a couple of long, overnight trips and it is just perfect now.
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Does anyone have a rough estimate on how much further back on the bike a person could sit with the Corbin? That (and the aesthetics) would be the main reason that I'd get one.
It definitely is designed to allow seating further back. I'll have to measure when I get home, but the visual comparison tool on the website shows a good three inches, and it's sculpted for flat seating right up to the transition.
I like it specifically so I can lean forward enough to smooth the airflow down my back behind the Parabellum.
After my tire change, I'll start looking into a Corbin (one thing at a time). The stock seat is my only major complaint on an otherwise really fun bike.
And Air Hawk pad might be a less-expensive option worth looking into. It provides some extra height and can fill in the seat "bowl" a bit. ???
That might be a nice, cheaper alternative. Anything that saves the family jewels is a good thing.
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Corbins need a few hundred miles to break in and conform to your particular posterior. That's been my experience over the decades. My most recent Corbin is on my 2013 BMW C650GT. Took a couple of long, overnight trips and it is just perfect now.
Mine took about 1000 miles or so to break in perfectly too. It definitely is a little stiff at first. But that's how its supposed to be. It will conform to you over time and is great!
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I'm also considering one. What colour options did you guys take? (There seem to be a million of combinations.)
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I have blue piping with carbon fiber looking sides and black top
Mine is a Corbin Zero seat modified to sit even farther back to allow more room for my dog. I love it!
They are very stiff the first 1000 miles or so but breaks in real nicely to fit your rear end perfectly. I can ride all day now and not even feel like I was riding. At least on my butt. Its a lot wider and spreads the load out more evenly.
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I have black/black with silver piping. Goes good on my DSR. I agree on the break in, I have about 2K on mine now and my but is fine on a 50 mile commute (each way).
The only complaint I have is that the Corbin does not quite fit snuggly on the bike. I have about a 1/4" gap at the back of the seat that I can't seem to get rid of. I have not tried that hard.
Steve
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+1 on black/black/silver. It doesn't look gaudy, or try to attract your attention, it just looks fantastic. My bike has been SR red and retroreflective purple, and that seat went with both color schemes extremely well.
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Anyone put a Corbin on an FX? I'd like to improve the pillon and maybe improve my comfort a little too.
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Anyone put a Corbin on an FX? I'd like to improve the pillon and maybe improve my comfort a little too.
As I recall the first Corbin seat on a Zero was for an FX.
*edit* Link: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=2503.msg11401#msg11401 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=2503.msg11401#msg11401)
Now I'm not sure about what was the first Corbin seat on a Zero...
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I'm about to give Corbin a shout to get a seat for my yellow 2013. Right now, I'm considering grey leather for the seat, yellow vinyl for the sides and tail, and black vinyl for the piping. I was humming and hawing about leather vs vinyl for the seat. Does anybody have any good/bad experiences with leather vs vinyl on the seat area? My seat won't see a lot of rain, but there will be some. Likewise, it won't see extended periods in the sunlight too much. And I've never really had issues with sweat on vinyl with any of my past motorcycles up here (north of Calgary, Alberta, Canada).
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I've had Corbin seats on a number of my motorcycles. I've had all leather and leather/vinyl mixxed seats. the vinyl is of very high quality and I had no weathering issues in every day/year round use. Treat the leather with a good conditioner and it'll last the life of the bike. I use a q-tip to apply a light coating of vasaline on the stitching as an extra preventative against water intrusion into the foam. I went with all leather on my '17 SR.
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I'm about to give Corbin a shout to get a seat for my yellow 2013. Right now, I'm considering grey leather for the seat, yellow vinyl for the sides and tail, and black vinyl for the piping. I was humming and hawing about leather vs vinyl for the seat. Does anybody have any good/bad experiences with leather vs vinyl on the seat area? My seat won't see a lot of rain, but there will be some. Likewise, it won't see extended periods in the sunlight too much. And I've never really had issues with sweat on vinyl with any of my past motorcycles up here (north of Calgary, Alberta, Canada).
I had a leather Corbin and didn't like it. Too slippery for my taste. Also, keeping the leather supple and in good condition took more work than I expected. I prefer good quality vinyl, with an anti-skid surface for motorcycle seats.
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Well, I ordered the leather. I'll post a photo in a month or two or whenever it happens to get here. My only gripe with Corbin (this is the second seat I've got from them) is they ship via UPS (brokerage fee piracy). Hopefully, I can convince them to ship via USPS instead.
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I've got a grey leather seat top with yellow vinyl on the other surfaces. Had it a few months now, and I'm quite impressed. I really like the leather compared to the total vinyl Corbin seat that I used to have on my old Beemer. More supple, and it looks better.
Anyway, I find it more comfortable than the stock seat, and also much easier to hang off of the seat when turning tight corners.
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Got my Corbin over the weekend also... just got to try it out for the ride into work. Seat position is a bit further back, so I was leaning a bit more on the ride... not bad at all, just will take getting used to. Comfortable seat though!
This looks almost exactly like the seat I just ordered tonight!
Been riding my 2017 SR for about a week now, and it's fantastic except the seat is noticeably, significantly less comfortable than the seats on my Monsters. I'll definitely wait until I've put at least 1000 miles in before I decide how I feel about the Corbin, but I'm excited!
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Just as a heads up Corbin is doing 10% off his seats this next week at his rally in Hollister. We (digiNow) will have a booth there on Friday and Saturday next to his EV station with some stuff to show off. Come check out our new belly pans!
Getting my seat built & C/2 charging the old-school way... having removed the plastics in anticipation of installing digiNow's on the sides! The black anodizing didn't hold up over four years of parking toward the east at work... gotta get some black spray paint!?
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Happy with the new seat!
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Happy with the new seat!
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> > And Air Hawk pad might be a less-expensive option worth looking into. It provides some extra height and can fill in the seat "bowl" a bit. ???
> That might be a nice, cheaper alternative. Anything that saves the family jewels is a good thing.
I'm running the Air Hawk pillion on top of my worn seat and it makes a huge difference. I'd use the Corbin I have that's made for a 2011 but it doesn't have a passenger area. Corbin Seats were offered by zero in that era.
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I have sent a PM to a few of you, so please forgive me if I seem to be bugging folks. I'm looking to buy a stock seat or seat pan for a DS, DSR, S, or SR. My bike is a '16 SR, but they all appear to fit except the very early models like the 2011 and maybe the 2012. I'm thinking there must be a few of you who have the old stock seats just taking up space so hopefully you'd consider selling it to me.
Thanks!