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Marketplace => Buy Sell Trade => Topic started by: Doctorbass on October 10, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
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I just saw that on ebay today.
These are very RARE and usually expensive. These ar ethe one that still can work with the DVT software you can download for free over the internet.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IXXAT-USB-to-CAN-compact-V-1-5-USB-interface-for-CAN-1-01-0087-10100-/111783906227?hash=item1a06d70bb3 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IXXAT-USB-to-CAN-compact-V-1-5-USB-interface-for-CAN-1-01-0087-10100-/111783906227?hash=item1a06d70bb3)
used, only 150$.. more than 10 availlable!!!!
These are V1.5 so these are NOT isolated and require more care when connecting to the controller. V1.6 are even more RARe but are isolated.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/cXYAAOSwQTVWCYrl/s-l1600.jpg)
Doc
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Get these asap if you want one, cause they don't make the old ones anymore (the ones that work with the DVT available online.
The new one only works with sevcon software that requires a key, and its a PITA to get.
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I have a 2014 , what can it program,will it work on the sevcon size 6.
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Frodus, this version is compatible with the older version of the DVT, are you sure?
Send me a PM if you have the DVT!!!!
Thank you for the heads up, Doc.
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Frodus, this version is compatible with the older version of the DVT, are you sure?
Send me a PM if you have the DVT!!!!
Thank you for the heads up, Doc.
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Yes. Old ixxat cable works with old software. New ixxat only works with new software which requires a key. I have new software and new cable so it doesn't matter to me.....but these are the same cables I used to use.
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I have decided to cross the line into Sevcon firmware modification now, so thanks for posting this!
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Good Luck Brian, you will need patience!
I just finished rebuilding a DCF file for my 2012 75-7 + Size 6 controller and it seem to work fine...
I suggest using Winmerge to compare various DCF files and understand the differences. Also having the Sevcon application note document help alot !!
Doc
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Good Luck Brian, you will need patience!
I just finished rebuilding a DCF file for my 2012 75-7 + Size 6 controller and it seem to work fine...
I suggest using Winmerge to compare various DCF files and understand the differences. Also having the Sevcon application note document help alot !!
Thanks for the "application note" suggestion.
I'm a Mac-using software developer with some firmware experience, so will be running Windows inside a virtual machine and will thankfully have a good set of tools to understand what's going on. If I'm really lucky, the DVT software is non-obfuscated C# and some of the logic will be extractable from what seems to be a terrible UI.
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I know this has been mentioned on a few threads but not for a while. Is there a place to download the original DVT software.
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Really none of you guys have or know where to find a copy of the DVT that isn't $900. I'd like to buy one of the those ixxat cables to run the Vectrix diagnostic on my VX2 but would like to know that the option to plug into the gen4 is there either on the scooter or any other bike project or production.
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Often those people who go out and buy a 1.5 or 1.6 IXXAT cable (aka a gen 1 cable) will simply post up they are looking for a working copy of DVT and someone magically will PM them with the information. ;)
If you get a IXXAT cable make sure it is a first gen like DoctorBass posted or you will require a licensed copy of DVT to interface with any SEVCON GEN4 Controller and this requires you are a company not an individual ;)
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That's why I posted on here. It's my understanding that the ones on eBay are the right cables but it's only worth buying if there is software available. I know that there are a lot of people who have done it and I highly doubt that they bought the ridiculously priced kit. The auction ends in five days and though the Vectrix software is easy to find and free I don't know if it's worth buying the ixxat for that alone. I appreciate your reply Burton, I'll wait and see if something pops up in the next five days.
By the way do the old cables or software run with the Gen4s that were sold after Sevcon instituted the license.
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I honestly don't know but I do know my gen4 size 6 controller purchased in 2013/2014 works fine with my ancient version of DVT ;)
I can't see why this wouldn't be the case for newer firmware DVT's ... I have also been informed even post firmware update to support the IPM my version of DVT will still work so I would imagine it would.
You could email SEVCON and ask them something like this:
I have an older IXXAT cable and DVT software, if I buy a brand new Gen4 Controller an I use what I already have to interface with it?
provide as little information as possible ;)
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Woot! Snagged one!
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Anyone know where I can get a cable and software for 2014, I've got a Hollywood dongle ,will a handheld programmer work I need to change torque curve and gear ratios for staters
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The cable is not needed for the Dongle, just a good password. I have level 3, and, am able to do some things. Not sure how high of a level the passwords go.
One of the things that you can change is gear ratio. You can also adjust the accuracy of the speedometer can be adjusted by way of the dash controls. I did it
when I first changed my gearing on my FX, long before I got the Dongle. I haven't been able to find a way to change anything significant with the Dongle.
As far as I know, the cable needed for physical connection would be a modified OBDII cable. If I recall, there are a few pin differences between Zero and standard.
If you do find a way to make bigger changes, or, find a password higher than level 3, please let me know.
Thanks
Ed
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Anyone know where I can get a cable and software for 2014, I've got a Hollywood dongle ,will a handheld programmer work I need to change torque curve and gear ratios for staters
You need an IXXAT Can to Usb 1.5 or 1.6 with DVT to adjust any torque curves straight through the controller ... the ratios you can do with the dongle.
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So the handheld programmer won't help?
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So the handheld programmer won't help?
Unless it is a handheld programmer for the controller likely not. And I wouldn't want to edit torque curves on one (you would have to email the person renting you the model to see what limitations it might have for this purpose)
https://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sevcon-gen4-hand-held-calibrator.html (https://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sevcon-gen4-hand-held-calibrator.html)
But given it only cost $50 for a week to rent why not rent it and find out what it can do for us ;)
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For software:
http://www.heinzmann.com/en/download-electric-motors/documents-software (http://www.heinzmann.com/en/download-electric-motors/documents-software)
Then navigate the tree to "Motor Controllers", then "Software" then "Sevcon Software" and click on "Sevcon Install".
You will need to login with
Username : software
Password : perm-motor2010
NOTE: I found all of this in 5 minutes of searching the google..... just gotta actually read through some threads. Updated with the latest so people don't have to look so hard.
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Thanks I've been trying to rent it but the last person to rent is way over due. Band I don't want to buy st $450 not knowing if it will work
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Thanks I've been trying to rent it but the last person to rent is way over due. Band I don't want to buy st $450 not knowing if it will work
I feel ya man. Especially since you can pick up an IXXAT for $150-350 on ebay if you are lucky ;)
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i see them on ebay. How difficult is it to acquire the sevcon app. What else would be required?
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i see them on ebay. How difficult is it to acquire the sevcon app. What else would be required?
There are several people on the forum who could send you the app to download. It isn't hard to find if you don't have that ... but you need to make sure this isn't a new IXXAT your looking at online and preferably you get one which is isolated.
The new app won't work with the old device and the new device requires a license key to get the app :/ So only the old device will likely be used by casual hobby modders ... less you own a business and can acquire the new one with license and software.
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There is one on ebay for $252 from Australia
Mouse over image to zoom
IXXAT-USB-to-CAN-compact-v1-5-1-01-0087-1-0100
will this work? not a great price but its christmas?
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There is one on ebay for $252 from Australia
Mouse over image to zoom
IXXAT-USB-to-CAN-compact-v1-5-1-01-0087-1-0100
will this work? not a great price but its christmas?
Yes that one would work. I think I paid $350 for mine so it isn't too far off from the "normal" price.
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I have everything set up but an actual native Windows install - I've been running it under emulation on Mac for so long without doing embedded/serial work that I took it for granted to work like that! It won't. I'm setting up Boot Camp next, and in the worst case will find some used Windows netbook for the purpose.
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Thanks for the info, Im ordering it today.
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I ordered the USB to CAN adapter, the seller noted that an additional serial to OBD adapter is required?
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I ordered the USB to CAN adapter, the seller noted that an additional serial to OBD adapter is required?
Negative. You don't need to create a DB9 (serial) to ODBII less you want to. You can hook directly to the controller via a DB9 and use positaps on the wires you need to.
But you should see about grabbing a DB9 cable (female) so you can cut off whatever is on the other end and create your interface for the bike be it a ODBII and or a 3 prong connector for the controller interface. I have BOTH on mine and the ODBII would be required for flashing firmware if you needed to ;)
See this post here http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4297.0 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4297.0)
If you can't figure it out with this let us know.
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Thanks
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i see them on ebay. How difficult is it to acquire the sevcon app. What else would be required?
Please read this thread..... I Posted just a few posts above you.
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5083.msg37345#msg37345 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=5083.msg37345#msg37345)
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Darn it, I started my project and missed this sale. I have the Sevcon. Anybody no longer need their IXXAT cable and willing to sell? I'd really prefer to avoid spending $850 at Thunderstruck to buy the software and v2 kit.
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They are on eBay for $250
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They are on eBay for $250
Where? There are literally none listed right now. I do see if I go back to the item at the top of the thread that plenty of people bought 3 of them, so I figure someone might have a spare.
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ebay seller dgh853 item # 151907716257 not sure if he has any left?
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That item number had one unsold and relisted. The remaining one sold ... the day before I posted. Of course it was right after I bought a Sevcon that will need programming. D'oh.
There are Chinese clones listed but I really don't trust that. The genuine IXXAT units seem to come up every few weeks so maybe I just need to be patient. Still seemed worth it to ask. :)
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FYI: I got one, and there are a couple more listed, all below $200.