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Title: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: oobflyer on July 17, 2015, 02:09:07 AM
I know when I turn on my SR with the kill switch off I see the error code 44 and if I turn the bike on with the kickstand down the error code 45 shows up.
But I'm also seeing 25 (Contactor Open Warning) and 49 (Contactor Open Disable) each time I turn the bike on. The bike then seems to run normally.
I just got it back from the factory today - maybe I'm being paranoid - or more likely I just didn't watch for errors each time I turned the bike on.
Do these codes display on your bikes when you power up?
Thanks
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: evtricity on July 17, 2015, 06:01:29 AM
Yes, I get 44 when the kill switch is on.

I also get error codes 20, 28 and 29 which I believe are related to a battery isolation issue I haven't been able to track down yet.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: oobflyer on July 17, 2015, 08:14:30 AM
What has Zero said about the isolation problems?
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: evtricity on July 17, 2015, 08:26:11 AM
Haven't chased Zero actively on those errors, have just seen them in the bike's logs.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: firepower on July 17, 2015, 09:32:10 AM
Error codes will often be minor or major. Some may just be status events. But they may all just be listed as error codes. Contactor should be open state until bike selftest and confirm it safe to close.
I dont have zero so not familiar with logs. But logs will usually log everything. Do logs show error codes clear or go OK?

I would expect some error codes to be normal. Often events will depend on other events to proceed them before they also change to OK / pass.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: bartle_man on July 17, 2015, 10:15:17 AM
When I turn the key with the kickstand down and kill switch on mine jumps between some 45 and 46 I believe


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Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: Justin Andrews on July 17, 2015, 01:14:52 PM
Kickstand down code should be considered normal for sure.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: oobflyer on July 18, 2015, 12:52:05 AM
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Contactor should be open state until bike selftest and confirm it safe to close.

 It's possible that it's 'normal' - I just never paid attention when turning my bike on. I'm only watching carefully now because I just got my bike back yesterday from Zero.

This is what it looks like when I turn on my bike:

https://youtu.be/OOFSr8vr-mA

Is this what you see when you turn your bike on?
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: ethanh8791 on July 21, 2015, 07:43:05 AM
You've got those error codes in normal operating state? 48&49 specifically? (i.e. the bike is functioning fine)

Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: oobflyer on July 21, 2015, 08:36:09 AM
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You've got those error codes in normal operating state?

Every time I turn the bike on, the dash error display flashes the numbers 25, 48, and 49 before displaying all zeros (https://youtu.be/OOFSr8vr-mA (https://youtu.be/OOFSr8vr-mA)). Then the bike seems to run fine. I may be worried about nothing, but after the trouble I had on the 4th of July ("My Big Ride"  http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4808.0 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4808.0)) I'm afraid to go on a long ride while there are error codes on the display.

It would be very reassuring if it turned out that all of the Zero SRs (w/PowerTank) displayed the same codes when turned on.

If someone here on the forum with the same bike could turn their bike on, watch the error codes that pop up, and let me know that would be great!  Meanwhile I also sent an email to Zero to see what they say about it.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: oobflyer on July 21, 2015, 09:32:47 AM
I got an email response from Zero today!

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With respect to the Dash Error Codes, I believe these are normal items. We mostly look at them to see if they persist or if they are reported when they should not. If you didn't look already, you'll find their descriptions on page 6.6 of the Owner's Manual.  Here is my assessment.

25 - Contactor Open Warning - When the motorcycle starts up you should hear an audible click when the contactor closes. So the 25 should go away and the 49 persist because the contactor is now closed.

49 - Contactor Open Disable

48 - Sevcon Startup Disable - This should go away when you start riding.  Phrased differently, if the motorcycle doesn't move after putting up the kickstand and disabling the kill switch and this signal remained, then we would be investigating the operation of the Sevcon.

So I think you are all good.

Very reassuring! Now back to riding :)
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: Richard230 on July 21, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
My 2014 S with PT doesn't display any error codes, just a red light that goes away when the side stand has been retracted.  I think I like the red light better than a bunch of numbers.   ::)
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: Kocho on April 28, 2016, 11:08:53 PM
Did you resolve these isolation issues? How?

Thanks!

Yes, I get 44 when the kill switch is on.

I also get error codes 20, 28 and 29 which I believe are related to a battery isolation issue I haven't been able to track down yet.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: evtricity on April 29, 2016, 03:09:15 AM
No, I never fixed the isolation issue. It was only a minor level and Intermittent and I didn't have the courage to pull the battery apart to attempt to resolve.
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: Kocho on April 29, 2016, 03:33:37 AM
Thanks! Got your email too, appreciate it!
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: dstiff@iafrica.com on May 16, 2016, 05:11:28 PM
I have a Zero 2014 Sport 8.5
The bike fell over to the right from a standing position, definately not a hard drop, after the incident the trottled felt sticky but was still operating, I drove it home, after parking it and put it on charge it is now giving me an error code:
1 blink followed with another 2 blinks. (3 blinks in all) It will not operate at all now.
How do I clear the error code and what does it mean?
Thanks
Dalene
Title: Re: Are Some "Error" Codes Normal?
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on July 03, 2017, 05:49:14 AM
This finally has a wiki writeup: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Dash_Display (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Dash_Display)