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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: firepower on April 18, 2015, 09:00:16 AM
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And this is why australia is late in getting Zero's
"There will soon be a new local suitor for the electric motorcycle brand Zero, which was left out in the cold when the previous importer pulled the pin before Christmas
Zero Motorcycles is close to "finalising an appointment" of a new importer Down Under following the demise of the previous distributor in late 2014.
According to the Director of Sales in Asia Pacific for Zero Motorcycles, Phil Wilkinson, the appointment process has taken some time as the electric motorcycle company wants to make sure the new partner is the perfect fit for the growing brand, both in a commercial and technical capacity.
"We are towards the sharp end of the process, and we hope to be in a position to make an announcement very soon," said Wilkinson. "Zero, being an electric product, has to be treated differently to a 'normal' brand, and that's been at the forefront of our thinking right the way through this process."
Wilkinson concedes the withdrawal of the previous importer, Cento per Cento, just before Christmas wasn't ideal, especially with a revamped 2015 range on the cusp of being launched."
http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2015/electric/zero-appointment-imminent-48957 (http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2015/electric/zero-appointment-imminent-48957)
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The dealer was happy to take my deposit though, no disclosure their importer quit. :(
May also explain lack of marketing material. Not a Zero logo to be seen anywhere.
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Yep, it's a sad situation but great that Phil has gone public with this - it means they are really really close. Fingers crossed it's a good'un
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Did not think much of Cento per Cento, released with very high markup which killed interest. Only to offer 3500 rebate months later due to lack of interest, which should have been originsl pricing.
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Well, that might explain why accessories seem to be built from unobtanium.
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Brand new on the forum. I've just ordered a 2015 SR from Mototecnic (I'm in Perth by the way, no dealers at all!!) They have stated the next shipment is due in mid-May, so hope that is still the case
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I was told March/April , and no a single update from dealer. Did get an update from zero marketing when I enquired about screens, saying they were in process of finding new importer. Just hope it not too long, otherwise might just wait for 2016 models.
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So any update on the Aussie situation?
Is there there an importer? Any bikes coming in?
What about support for existing bikes, especially interested in Sydney as there isn't a dealer here!
I'm thinking about getting one, but don't want to be waiting forever or stuck with a bike that has no support.
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A new distributor for Australia has been appointed and the 2015 range due here very soon.
More details at http://motorbikewriter.com/zero-electric-motorcycles-on-track/ (http://motorbikewriter.com/zero-electric-motorcycles-on-track/) and http://www.redbook.com.au/bike-news/2015/zero-appoints-new-distributor-51060?csn_tnet=true (http://www.redbook.com.au/bike-news/2015/zero-appoints-new-distributor-51060?csn_tnet=true)
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Thanks.
Now to see when they turn up and if they get the U.S. price cut
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So I can chip in a bit here. As announced Gas Gas Australia are the new importer. They have their own dealer network who they are talking to plus some of the old Cento Percento dealers remain very keen. Exactly who sells them and where is still being finalised, but some of the old dealers seem committed.
Gas Gas Australia advised me this morning that pricing is "on the website" which to me means 2014 prices are staying the same in 2015 - quite an achievement, given FX changes!. Like all of you, I'm busting to see the network start promoting and selling again and new bikes being delivered so we can get more happy riders on the road. Its early days, but Jeff seems like a decent bloke and is giving it a crack, filling in for where Cento Percento left off. It will take some time to gear up and build the skills, support and service no doubt but exciting news that Zero, after a small hiatus, are back!
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The SR is $1000 more than last year, and S,DS & FX had $3500 rebate on prices last year. That's the price they need to match.
I hope they don't over charge like previous importer and killed sales and interest, and months later introduce rebate to make sales, where pricing should have been originally.
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=3426.msg19042#msg19042 (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=3426.msg19042#msg19042)
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If there are any 2014 bikes not sold by Cento per Cento then you'd think they will need to be discounted sharply to sell given the 2015 bikes are significantly better with respect to suspension, ABS brakes, lighter wheels, greater capacity/range etc.
Hopefully a progressive Sydney based dealer takes them on too.
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There is a 2014 SR for good price on www.bikesales.com.au (http://www.bikesales.com.au)
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There is a 2014 SR for good price on www.bikesales.com.au (http://www.bikesales.com.au)
Interesting.
I suspect that bike is one sold by Central Coast motorcycles as I remember they switched one owner to the Metzeler M5 tyres. Mine has a rego plate of AGW79 so I believe they were both registered about the same time by Central Coast (June 2014).
Odd that it has only done 598 km and the bike is photographed at a Mitsubishi dealer and located at Artarmon. Perhaps a trade-in?
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http://web.archive.org/web/20141115063439/http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/au/promo/ride-away-savings/? (http://web.archive.org/web/20141115063439/http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/au/promo/ride-away-savings/?)
Here is an archive of rebate pricing. If the Zero Australia wants to do well they should be this price or less.
SR rebate pricing $25500 - $3500 = $22000
Zero sales started in April 2014, first Early Adopter rebate offered in July then again November instant rebate, then they Quit in December.
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As announced Gas Gas Australia are the new importer.
A company called Gas Gas that imports E-bikes. The irony is strong with this one ;D
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As announced Gas Gas Australia are the new importer.
A company called Gas Gas that imports E-bikes. The irony is strong with this one ;D
It is Spanish so I checked if there was another meaning, nope it is Gasolina, lol
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Thought I jump on here and say hi - I put a deposit down on the that second hand SR mentioned when it was listed last week (seriously glad I added the bikesales email alert for all Zero listings). I'm Melbourne based, but heading up to Sydney this weekend to see it in the flesh and if all is good finalise the sale.
I'd dropped in to Elmofo last year to check out one of the Brammo's and was pretty sold on that, however with the recent Polaris buyout, and inability to get more in the country (AFAIK there's only two here - they never got that initial shipment in) decided to go for the Zero. Was holding off on the ex-demo S model that Mototecnic had recently so the price could drop to something slightly less offensive but someone beat me to it.
Anyway, I digress. From the looks of it the manufacture date for the SR falls within the recall period for the stator issue (http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM451514/RCDNN-14V119-2836P.pdf (http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs/jaxrs/download/doc/UCM451514/RCDNN-14V119-2836P.pdf)) however working to clarify if this one has been checked (it's a different VIN to the one in the report). Alto is an Audi / Mitsubishi dealer and a customer apparently traded it in, but if anyone's got other info about its history I'd love to hear about it.
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I ordered through Mototecnic, they've been told that the ZERO shipment is expected to arrive in Australia mid-July, and customs clearance should only take about one week.
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I ordered through Mototecnic, they've been told that the ZERO shipment is expected to arrive in Australia mid-July, and customs clearance should only take about one week.
Nice on BenS!
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I put deposit down in Jan and was told mrach/April delivery, by the time they get to dealers it be August. Think Better be good pricing or I wait for 2016 models. Most of the year is over before we get them.
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I put deposit down in Jan and was told mrach/April delivery, by the time they get to dealers it be August. Think Better be good pricing or I wait for 2016 models. Most of the year is over before we get them.
Yeah, I ordered mine a month ago, and was told the wait would be about five weeks, but when I called again to upgrade to the 5.7 FX, the shop had been told mid-July. One good thing about waiting a bit longer, is that the bugs, if there are any, should have been sorted out by then. You're right, though, most other manufacturers will be releasing their 2016 models when we get our 2015's!
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Dearlers are only ordering in 2015 bike for people who placed orders. I have cancelled my order as price is too high. SR $26500 was quoted $23000. Was not offered any reduction or discount. They only had 3 bikes on order. Not much confidence in the launch with new importer if dealers will not be carrying show room stock or demos for test rides. Dealers obviously don't want to have stock they can't sell. I wait and see how official launch goes, if there is one. Hopefully 2016 model launch will be marketed properly.
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I don't think the Australian prices have taken into account the USD1350 reduction on all 2015 models that has happened in the USA so you'd expect that should knock close to $2k off the price.
That would mean a difference of about AUD4000 between converted US prices and Australian RRP. Factor in AUD2600 for GST and stamp duty and AUD1400 for shipping costs and I can see why the RRP is what it is.
Hopefully Zero is able to squeeze the margins on the bike's into Australia to get the price down as these are great bikes and the SR in particular is a very quick and versatile street bike. And the 2015 models have better suspension and wheels plus ABS compared to my 2014.
As mentioned previously some progressive and enthusiastic dealers are needed with support from Zero to move demo stock at the end of each year.
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Prices were meant to stay the same, but SR has increased by $1000 over last years price. Zero entered the market last year with high prices then offered $3500 rebates.
So new buyers should be asking for the same rebate pricing. (Which happens to be difference between my quoted and current price).
I not happy with Australia being forced to pay a lot higher price than rest of the world.
Australia and Canada should be similar pricing. Our currency is about the same ratio to US$ and Canada had 13% GST Australia 10% GST.
Canada prices are a lot lower than Australia even with higher tax. (I am not sure if these price have recent zero price reduction or not)
2015 Prices AU$ vs CAD$
SR 12.5 $26,490 $18,100
S 9.4 $20,490 $13,595
S 12.5 $23,490 $15,835
DS 9.4 $20,490 $13,595
DS 12.5 $23,490 $15,835
FX 2.8 $16,990 $9,675
FX 5.7 $18,990 $12,470
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2015 Prices
SR 12.5 $26,490
S 9.4 $20,490
S 12.5 $23,490
DS 9.4 $20,490
DS 12.5 $23,490
FX 2.8 $16,990
FX 5.7 $18,990
2014 Prices
For a limited time, the rideaway prices will be as follows: (limited time was July to Dec, lol )
MODEL RIDEAWAY WITH REBATE
SR 11.4 $25,490 $22,990*
S 8.5 $20,490 $16,990
S 11.4 $23,490 $19,990
DS 8.5 $20,490 $16,990
DS 11.4 $23,490 $19,990
FX 5.7 $19,490 $15,990
*(was not official but bikes were sold for this price or close to it.)
2015 Prices Jun
2015-zero-motorcycles-pricing (http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2015/road/2015-zero-motorcycles-pricing-51549)
2014 Prices Nov (they then quit in Dec)
zero-drops-rideaway-pricing (http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2014/zero-drops-rideaway-pricing-47403)
2014 Prices July
zero-'early-adopter'-rebate (http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2014/electric/zero-%E2%80%98early-adopter%E2%80%99-rebate-44537)
2014 Prices April
2014-zero-motorcycles-pricing-and-dealers (http://www.bikesales.com.au/content/news/2014/zero-motorcycles-pricing-and-dealers-42547)
US$ Prices with recent $1350 reduction.
SR 12.5 $15,995
S 9.4 $11,995
S 12.5 $13,995
DS 9.4 $11,995
DS 12.5 $13,995
FX 2.8 $8,495
FX 5.7 $10,990
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Got an e-mail from Vic at Mototechnic today advising that the shipment of 2015 SR's is arriving this Friday 5th June. They are honouring my order price of $25,490
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Congratulations, Enjoy your ride :) I am sure there plenty of room in the price for reductions. supply and demand will rule, but the more they sell, the more on the road and the more interest they generate.
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They need to get a dealer in Sydney.
Gosford is just a bit too far.
I'm wondering how many people are put off by being so far away from the dealer.
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+1
Imagine how much interest and sales they would get if they had them in a prominent shopping location in Sydney CBD even if only for a week on display.
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I can accept there are not many dealers, also not one in Brisbane, what i can not accept is ripping off Australian buyers and it is offensive. Here is a comparison of price difference between US and AUSTRALIA for same model bikes. (same dollar conversion, gst, on road costs). I accept Zero are expensive compared to ICE bikes, They should not be expensive when compared to themselves in other markets, need to have equivalent pricing. I am a great fan of Zero and have have promoted there product and followed there brand for the last 5 years as have many other Australians. There was great interest on forums and many wanted to but, but when 2014 prices announce many just walked away in disgust at the offensive pricing. No wonder a rebate of $3500 was offered later, which just proved over pricing. People who will buy zero are people who have research EV and Zero and know what they want. Not your averge motorcyclist, who shuns electric.
For about the same price of a SR you can buy a Honda Goldwing , I used Honda because its about same price in Australia and shows on road cost breakdown. prices from manufactures websites, QLD used for On road pricing. Other state may be different. I have added destination charges to US prices.
Australia Price
Honda Goldwing F6B
$27,060 RIDEAWAY
RRP$25,199
Stamp duty$900
CTP$280
Registration and statutory$182
Dealer pre-delivery & inspection$499
US Price
Gold Wing F6B
STARTING AT $20,499*
+ DESTINATION CHARGE: $390.00
Honda F6B $27060 vs $20889 difference $6171
Zero SR. $26490 vs $15995 difference $10495
$4324difference. Zero is way over priced.
Here is another example Honda VFR1200F about same USA price as Zero SR.
Australian Prices
Honda VFR1200F
$18,382 RIDEAWAY
RRP$16,999
Stamp duty$522
CTP$280
Registration and statutory$182
Dealer pre-delivery & inspection$399
USA pricing
VFR1200F
STARTING AT $15,999*
+ DESTINATION CHARGE: $350.00
Honda VFR1200F $18382 vs $16349 difference $2033
Zero SR $26490 vs $15995 difference $10495
$8462 difference , Zero price is way over priced.!!!!
Harley Davidson Street 500 AU$9,995 vs US$6,799 difference $3196
pick any bike model and you get same result.
Zero difference is 3x to 4x other importers, when it should same.
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firepower,
I think you have made your point on pricing and we would all like the bikes to be at the lowest price possible with the distributor still remaining viable and an ongoing concern. I would suggest you contact Phil Wilkinson from Zero and put your points to him directly.
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I will, and i know of others who have emailed zero directly and have had no response to their emails.
I am sure Zero follow this Forum.
Australia has no charging infrastructure, no government rebate or incentives, So to commit to a EV purchase is a big deal and risk.
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Zero FX ZF5.7 $11k USD $19k AUD (+73%)
Victory Motorcycles Vegas 8-Ball $12.5k USD $20k AUD (+67%)
Harley-Davidson Seventy Two Sportster $10.8k USD $18.5k AUD (+71%)
Zero SR ZF12.5 $16k USD $26.5k AUD (+66%)
Victory Motorcycles Hammer 8-Ball $15k USD $22k AUD (+47%)
Harley-Davidson Fat Bob $15.7k USD $25.5k AUD (+62%)
Chevrolet and Ford both sell vehicles in Australia, but they're frequently sold with different equipment packages or configurations.
Fiesta SE hatch is $15.6k USD .. closest equivalent is Fiesta Trend hatch $22k AUD (+41%)
Model S 85D $86k USD $141k AUD (+64%) .. $127k (+48%) without $14k AUD luxury car tax
It sucks, but Zero is basically playing by the same sets of rules as other American manufacturers and pricing their models accordingly. There are a lot of reasons why prices are higher in Australia, but I doubt Zero is arbitrarily packing on thousands of dollars of profit vs their US market vehicles.
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Be aware Australia does have a luxury car tax (LCT=33%) and duties 5% and GST 10% on Cars, there is only GST 10% on Motor Bikes as we have no local manufactures to protect.
Car prices will be way higher.
There is also Fair trade agreement between USA and Australia. But it does not seem very fair, It was supposed to stop this kind of thing.
I have also noticed as bikes models get more expensive the difference get more larger too.
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Zero SR ZF12.5 $16k USD $26.5k AUD (+66%)
Victory Motorcycles Hammer 8-Ball $15k USD $22k AUD (+47%)
Harley-Davidson Fat Bob $15.7k USD $25.5k AUD (+62%)
That's funny, the SR is €18.140 in the Netherlands which calculates to 26.500 AUD.
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Thats very strange, as taxes and duties and on road costs should be different.
What are the duties and taxes? Is that ride away price?
I sure Netherlands has rebates and incentives for EV
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Thats very strange, as taxes and duties and on road costs should be different.
What are the duties and taxes? Is that ride away price?
I sure Netherlands has rebates and incentives for EV
That's the price on the zero site. Normally you'd also pay 19,4% tax for new motors(comparable to your LCT) but because it has zero emission it doesn't apply.
Most dealers have some sort of delivery costs for decrating and ready for the road checks but because the zero is relatively simple it shouldn't be substantial.
Also you don't have to pay road taxes but those weren't high for a motorcycle to begin with(around €120/year).
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Well Zero still has plenty of sales in USA, as that market becomes saturated or production increases significantly they are not too concerned about expanding into new markets. To be able to claim to have international sales and dealers is enough to keep to keep venture capalist investing millions.
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Im about 3,600 kms from my neatest dealer, so its a leap of faith :-)
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Im about 3,600 kms from my neatest dealer, so its a leap of faith :-)
Aren't you about 3.600 kms removed from about anything? ;)
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come on guys add your locations to your profile. ;)
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Ha ha Erasmo, it certainly feels like it at times! The SR's have landed in NSW are are currently shipping out to the dealers. Mine should arrive in a fortnight and Ill proudly post my location :-)
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Just been informed my SR will be delivered to me on the 30th June, yeahhh!
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Awesome, am sure you will love it.
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Just been informed my SR will be delivered to me on the 30th June, yeahhh!
Nice! Do you know if there were any FX's shipped with your SR; I've been told not to expect my FX 'til next month?
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Not sure BenS, my SR is coming to Perth with Bikes Only Transport. I paid for private shipping
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No worries. Cheers.
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She has arrived, bloody awesome.
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Very nice, I'm jealous of the upgrades on the 2015 SR.
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Brilliant :D Very Happy for you give us a review soon :)
How much are they to insure?
when i asked my insurer QBE about a year ago they had no reference of Zero's models.
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My 2014 SR was $240.95 for comprehensive insurance with NRMA.
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My 2014 SR was $240.95 for comprehensive insurance with NRMA.
Seriously? Over what period is that and where about are you based?
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The policy is for 12 months based in Sydney (postcode 2076).
Yes, it's very cheap and with a big insurer. I was originally with Youi at $310 p.a. but decided to move all my insurance to NRMA. I have a 22% loyalty discount and 65% NCB so unless you work for NRMA you can't get a much better price.
The Zeros are learner legal in NSW which probably helps keep the low cost.
Just another reason why Zeros are cheaper to run than gas bikes!
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Hell, I'd kill for even the $310. Youi quoted me over $2k for my 2014 SR. I went with Insure My Ride for just over $1k pa as they were the cheapest I could find (with decent cover). To be fair, I'm 27 and it's stored in a shared (albeit secured and with cameras) apartment car space in the city so not exactly in the cheap insurance bracket, but those prices are a significant differences to what I'm currently being bent over for.
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I'm still looking around. Insure My Ride came in at $900 and that is in a lock up garage and 64 yr old rider. It goes in for inspection and rego next Monday and I'll give a review soon after. (the quick dash round the block to test was brilliant :-))
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If you're in WA give SGIO a call and see if you can achieve a price similar to what their NRMA brand offers in the Eastern states. Both brands are part of Insurance Australia Group (IAG).
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Thanks, I'll give them a go
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evtricity, I owe you a pint! SGIO are $396.00 pa for fully comp, agreed value of $25,390, unlimited kms and covers all my personal effects and gear.
Impressed with that!
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Great news.
For others shopping around for comprehensive quotes - NRMA, SGIO, SGIC and RACV are the various state-based brands for IAG and should have similar pricing.
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Wow, that's cheap, I hope they do insurance in SA! I'm paying about $600 full comp for my gsxr1000 and about $300 theft for my exc530 through insuremyride. Cheers.
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Doesn't look promising for me. SGIC quote for my 06 gsxr1000 is over $2400!
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Far out!
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Just got my renewal for my 2014 Zero SR, only $218.79 for 12 months comprehensive with NRMA.
Very happy!
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Don't know if this will effect Gas Gas importer. But Gas Gas to be put into liquidation. http://www.bikesales.com.au/News/2015/ED-ITM-52651/Gas-Gas-to-be-liquidated/?psq=(Type%3D%5BNews%5D)%26(Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D)&pso=0&pss=Latest (http://www.bikesales.com.au/News/2015/ED-ITM-52651/Gas-Gas-to-be-liquidated/?psq=(Type%3D%5BNews%5D)%26(Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D)&pso=0&pss=Latest)
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I ordered my SR 2015 from Mototechnic about 6 weeks prior to it landing in Aus. I paid a deposit which locked in the price at $25,490 ride away. There was a few teething problems with Gas Gas when it came to registering it. Registration was delayed until after the weekend. Gas Gas had not sent through the vin numbers etc to Vic roads or some similar body. Picked it up on a Saturday.
I put 750 km on it then it started to do some weird things when turning it on(only 2 times), and SOC level was jumping around as well as failing to charge correctly one night. Its back with Mototechnic to be fixed while I am on holidays in Thailand. I suspect the BMS board is faulty (SOC problem and charging issues). They did a firmware upgrade for the start issues.
Just hope I get the issues sorted before the importer has any issues due to Gas Gas manufacturer going into receivership.
I also ordered a screen and top box rack, they came about 3-4 weeks after the bike. So stuff is flowing in at the moment.
I love the bike, I am an EV enthusiast, so wanted to support Zero and own a EV. I can bear a few teething issues as long as its fixed and reliable there after.
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I am in Thailand too. :)
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I am in Ubon at the moment and will be back in Bangkok on the 14/08/2015 (I think) for 10 days. Where are you at "firepower" (if you don't mind me asking)?
Yes its a bit off topic, I know.
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Currently at cha am / hua hin, but will be going back to Ayutthaya on Monday. And back to Australia on the 8th via BKK. There is zero dealer in BKK too.
http://www.bv-moto.com (http://www.bv-moto.com)
299 Vibhavadi-Rangsit Road, Chompol,Chatuchak, Bangkok 10900
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Hi gmarks, I just purchased my SR from Mototechnic a few weeks ago (shipped across to Perth) Sorry to hear you've had an issue, I've been lucky, with 600kms on the clock and absolutely no issues whatsoever so far and hope it stays that way. like you, absolutely love the bike. I have a Volt as well. One thing I'll say, I have an off grid 3kw solar system with 20kwh of battery storage and when I charge the Volt off the inverter, it's perfect every time, but if I charge directly from the mains, it often drops off charge with an error and the input voltage is all over the place' I only charge the SR from the 'clean' inverter supply
Hope yours gets fixed soon. Could I ask what the cost of the screen and top box was? I'm after those as well
Cheers
John
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I have an off grid 3kw solar system with 20kwh of battery storage...I only charge the SR from the 'clean' inverter supply...
Hi John, I'm interested in a few details about your Solar system, if that's ok? I don't know much about electrics, apart from what I've learned playing around with electric RC vehicles and electric bicycles, but am interested in getting an off-grid solar system. Where did you buy the off-grid, what did it cost, and are the batteries just 12v with a 240v inverter?
I'm picking up my Zero FX in about a week's time, and after reading about charging problems, I've been really worried about it, because Mototecnic are 765kms away, and I'd prefer to not have to take the bike back for warranty! I'm wondering if I could/should use my old 12v car batteries(charged off mains) as a bank, then use a 12v-240v inverter to charge the FX.
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Unless there is a problem with your electricity supply then charging your Zero from the grid works perfectly. Sounds like John has some supply issues or a problem with his Volt EVSE. I am not aware of anyone having trouble charging their Zero from the electricity network in Australia.
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evtricity, As far as I know, my mains supply is ok; I haven't had trouble running other equipment, and rarely experience blackouts. Either way, solar panels with a power bank of batteries sounds like something I'd like to do in the future.
Cheers,
Ben.
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Hi guys
evtricity is correct, I'm semi rural and my mains is very 'dirty' and the Volt doesn't have problems at other locations.
Happy to share details of my off-grid setup, I'll take a couple of pics to show how it looks and the configuration. It is designed for Level 2 charging of the Volt (16 amps ac) as well as the SR, so the inverter is a big one and intelligent so it can switch across to mains input and even generator if the battery voltage drops below a certain level (happens a bit in the winter with cloudy days) but the output is always spot on 230 volts and clean as a whistle
I'll post later with the detail
Cheers
John
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Thanks for clearing that up, John, and for the info about your solar setup; I'm in the suburbs, so power supply should be good.
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Currently at cha am / hua hin, but will be going back to Ayutthaya on Monday. And back to Australia on the 8th via BKK. There is zero dealer in BKK too.
http://www.bv-moto.com (http://www.bv-moto.com)
299 Vibhavadi-Rangsit Road, Chompol,Chatuchak, Bangkok 10900
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Nice! I have only driven through Hua Hin.
Been to the dealer here (Thailand) and had a look, they have every model to test ride. Boy are they expensive here, converted to Aussie dollars the SR is about $34,000
The S and DS only have the 9.4 kw/h battery, I guess to get the price down.
I am actually back in BBK on 11th not 14th. Bad memory ha, ha ,ha.
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I have an off grid 3kw solar system with 20kwh of battery storage and when I charge the Volt off the inverter, it's perfect every time, but if I charge directly from the mains, it often drops off charge with an error and the input voltage is all over the place' I only charge the SR from the 'clean' inverter supply
Hope yours gets fixed soon. Could I ask what the cost of the screen and top box was? I'm after those as well
Cheers
John
Nice setup! When batteries become cheaper that will be what everyone will do as the savings will be too big to ignore.
I don't have the paperwork here, but from (my bad memory) each was $200+ ish. I only got the rack not top box and rack. I bought my own top box else where. Oh I should mention that the accessories where ordered with the bike and with some arm twisting I got them at cost to mototecnic.
My bike was perfect up to about 750 km. I could still ride it as it had no issues once turned on. Twice I had to turn it on twice for a normal start. Except for one time it charges up ok too, just the SOC jumps now to 100% the instant I connected the charger. If the SOC was at about 80% it would indicate the SOC correctly (not jump to 100% when connected to the charger). I also have an extra charger (from zero) rather than a power tank. I wanted the storage and low weight. Just one hour on the chargers and I get 20%, about the same as a power tank.
Although the issues are minor and did not stop me from riding, I want it all sorted while under warranty.
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Thanks for that, they had no stock when they shipped the bike. Like you, I'll get the top box elsewhere.
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Boy are they expensive here, converted to Aussie dollars the SR is about $34,000
The S and DS only have the 9.4 kw/h battery, I guess to get the price down.
Woah, that's insane. Hard to imagine they'll move many at that price point.
Seems like all the Aussies from the forum are in Thailand at the moment. I'm bouncing between Koh Tao, Koh Phangnan and Koh Samui . Much better than Melbourne winter.
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Lol , I got here just before the cold snap hit Brisbane.
I agree Zero needs to get their pricing same world wide. Crazy it can be so different. Think Thailand has high duty on imports. Even if i send gifts to Thailand , receiver must still pay duty and taxes.
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I can accept there are not many dealers, also not one in Brisbane, what i can not accept is ripping off Australian buyers and it is offensive. Here is a comparison of price difference between US and AUSTRALIA for same model bikes. (same dollar conversion, gst, on road costs). I accept Zero are expensive compared to ICE bikes, They should not be expensive when compared to themselves in other markets, need to have equivalent pricing. I am a great fan of Zero and have have promoted there product and followed there brand for the last 5 years as have many other Australians. There was great interest on forums and many wanted to but, but when 2014 prices announce many just walked away in disgust at the offensive pricing. No wonder a rebate of $3500 was offered later, which just proved over pricing. People who will buy zero are people who have research EV and Zero and know what they want. Not your averge motorcyclist, who shuns electric.
For about the same price of a SR you can buy a Honda Goldwing , I used Honda because its about same price in Australia and shows on road cost breakdown. prices from manufactures websites, QLD used for On road pricing. Other state may be different. I have added destination charges to US prices.
Australia Price
Honda Goldwing F6B
$27,060 RIDEAWAY
RRP$25,199
Stamp duty$900
CTP$280
Registration and statutory$182
Dealer pre-delivery & inspection$499
US Price
Gold Wing F6B
STARTING AT $20,499*
+ DESTINATION CHARGE: $390.00
Honda F6B $27060 vs $20889 difference $6171
Zero SR. $26490 vs $15995 difference $10495
$4324difference. Zero is way over priced.
Here is another example Honda VFR1200F about same USA price as Zero SR.
Australian Prices
Honda VFR1200F
$18,382 RIDEAWAY
RRP$16,999
Stamp duty$522
CTP$280
Registration and statutory$182
Dealer pre-delivery & inspection$399
USA pricing
VFR1200F
STARTING AT $15,999*
+ DESTINATION CHARGE: $350.00
Honda VFR1200F $18382 vs $16349 difference $2033
Zero SR $26490 vs $15995 difference $10495
$8462 difference , Zero price is way over priced.!!!!
Harley Davidson Street 500 AU$9,995 vs US$6,799 difference $3196
pick any bike model and you get same result.
Zero difference is 3x to 4x other importers, when it should same.
I guess the taxes in UK is different. I have checked them on taxmycar online.