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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: zlagger on July 08, 2013, 09:02:52 AM
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I am a first time motorcycle owner. I keep seeing a term thrown around here a lot...
ICE bikes, what are they?
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Internal Combustion Engine
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Or as I like to say... "Infernal Combustion Engine"
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It's an antiquated technology like Coal fired Steam-engines ... LOL
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Actually a moden steam engine in a power station is about twice as efficient as the Infernal Combustion Engine!
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Thanks guys
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LOL you guys need to get over the dissing on the net
My old infernal steam engined bike makes 240 hp at the crank runs a 9 sec 1/4 mile has a range of 360 klms and takes 30 seconds to refuel it owes me 9 grand get over it.
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DID I MENTION IT TAKES A MILE TO GET TO 212 MPH FROM A STAND
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But an electric bike could run a quarter that fast no problem but it wouldn't need rebuilding after 1000 miles.
Why join an electric motorcycle forum just to preach about your gas bike? Almost all of us have owned or still own powerful gas bikes but have realised that electric is the future. Get over it.
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In the drag bike world the electrics are catching up with the top fuel bikes pretty quickly.
Currently the fastest electric is 201mph over the quarter mile to the ICE 245mph over the quarter.
Lawless seem confident that the electric could be able to hit 255mph over the quarter, but I wait to be convinced... :)
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lol is anyone actually interested in development here?
I am interested in motorcycle development and have national and track champion trophy's to prove it .What are your credentials ?
coulda shoulda woulda run a 9 dosnt cut it
its just a gauge 9 sec 212mph top speed 30 passes back. tp back without refuelling or changing a thing ride it the 140 klms from home and back after its a street bike ridden 2 up with a pillion and has 87000klms on it should be good for another 200000klms might need a new battery for it sometime
lighten up guys i am serious about making some inroads into ev tech
any budding scientists interested in developing a axial flux vernier squirrel cage motor dont hesitate to contact me :-*
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lol is anyone actually interested in development here?
I am interested in motorcycle development and have national and track champion trophy's to prove it .What are your credentials ?
coulda shoulda woulda run a 9 dosnt cut it
its just a gauge 9 sec 212mph top speed 30 passes back. tp back without refuelling or changing a thing ride it the 140 klms from home and back after its a street bike ridden 2 up with a pillion and has 87000klms on it should be good for another 200000klms might need a new battery for it sometime
lighten up guys i am serious about making some inroads into ev tech
any budding scientists interested in developing a axial flux vernier squirrel cage motor dont hesitate to contact me :-*
I wouldn't go onto a motorcycle forum and start saying that cars are better just because a top fuel dragster is faster so don't expect sympathy for your cause here. The fact is that the ICE has changed very little since the g
first overhead valve in 1917. Look at the progress one small company has made in just 3 years with a budget just a tiny fraction of an ICE company.
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lol troll read the numbers and weep
come up with some better performance figures or a feasible idea of your own
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I am interested in motorcycle development and have national and track champion trophy's to prove it .What are your credentials ?
I'm a highly experienced Audio Systems programmer with top triple A computer titles* to my credit, which seems to be as about irreverent to this conversation as your credentials... ;)
I generally don't ride bikes very fast however, mostly because I generally ride them touring for fun and for commuting. So I'm sure you could quite easily beat me in a road race, and I'm quite ok with that. :D
What I think is relevant to this conversation, is that we are clearly both passionate about motorbikes, and their development, especially EV bikes.
So lets keep it civil, because I get the feeling that we would probably both get along with each other over a pint. :)
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lol troll read the numbers and weep
come up with some better performance figures or a feasible idea of your own
Step away from the drag strip and put an average motorcyclist on an SR and they would get to 60 faster than they would on your bike I guarantee it.
I'm not trying to be argumentative hamr1 I'm just making the point that this is an EV forum so naturally the people here find electric vehicles more suitable for their needs. I rode my supermotards at the pointy end of the fast group, you would have liked my KTM I'm sure and obviously my Zero is nowhere near as fast on an empty road but for the rain soaked winter commute which makes up a large proportion of my riding, it blows the race spec KTM into the weeds.
So nothing personal or against your ICE but I believe the EV is the bright future of motorcycling.
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Me too (ev for the future) i take it you have read about the build i am undertaking
just checking on the regs for registration but am hoping to build a new roller and fit the warp 9 and use a manzanito controller in a gsxr type frame or build a more suitable frame harris trellis type to allow better positioning of components
Have you thought about developing rider aids on your bike (I am not sure what you
have ) I think this is a area that could be fun with wheel speed sensors and abs to help in the weather conditions there
Ha is funny I go on a ev site they dis ice .I go to cyclone they dis both ice and ev
I follow m theory ie gather as much info as you can and adapt it to get the best result
You can never learn to much I say
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Yes. Power, torque and very low noise are reasons to prefer electric to ICE. Plus the "eco" feeling you get !
ICE's only advantages are
- autonomy (if you need to go 150+ km and only have 15' for a refill, than stick to ICE)
- second hand market (an electrical bike it today impossible to resell even with huge discounts)
- customer service (ICE have large service networks, user bases and market for spare parts. With electrical you can be confronted with nightmare experiences related to supply chain, unability to fix issues, and nobody really in charge - look at the "Serious issues" topic of the zero motorcycles 2013 category)
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Yeah, I know what you mean about the second hand market, but then there are MUCH better ideas than selling the bike.
That battery pack is worth its weight in gold, and has a couple of money saving uses around the house.
I have plans for the ZF9 when I stop riding mine.