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Title: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 15, 2012, 11:50:43 PM
Hello everyone,
I would like to install a loud horn on my 2011 Zero S.  Can anyone tell me how to tap in to the 12 volt power output?
Thanks
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: manlytom on April 16, 2012, 04:57:59 AM
Hi
You might be able to tap into the standard horn connections. Esepcially if you replace it. Not sure about the fuse load on this circuit though.

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Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 16, 2012, 06:02:11 AM
The instruction is to directly power the horn from the battery with a 20 amp fuse and large gauge wire. A relay is needed to protect the OEM switch from drawing too much current.  I found a video if anyone is interested.

Air Horn on my GSXR 1000 K7 install (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyLWIO2YxgU#)
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: RickSteeb on April 16, 2012, 06:44:00 AM
I seriously doubt the 12V power supply on the Zero has enough excess capacity to drive a load approaching 20A.  Their warranty is quite specific too!
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: ZeroSinMA on April 16, 2012, 07:10:03 AM
Hi
You might be able to tap into the standard horn connections. Esepcially if you replace it. Not sure about the fuse load on this circuit though.

T
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Can be done with a relay ala this product:

http://www.amazon.com/Wolo-Model-419-Black-Design/dp/B000F5DQWY (http://www.amazon.com/Wolo-Model-419-Black-Design/dp/B000F5DQWY)

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8GWZcbCwB5A
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 16, 2012, 07:30:51 AM
I found the attached instructions for the Bad Boy.  Looks simple enough but just can't find the positive battery terminal.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: ZeroSinMA on April 19, 2012, 12:10:08 AM
I found the attached instructions for the Bad Boy.  Looks simple enough but just can't find the positive battery terminal.

Ordered the Bad Boy for delivery next week. Will reprot here on my experiences with it.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: protomech on April 19, 2012, 03:01:23 AM
I seriously doubt the 12V power supply on the Zero has enough excess capacity to drive a load approaching 20A.  Their warranty is quite specific too!

I believe the QuiQ-dci charger has an integrated 12v dc-to-dc converter that claims it provides 400w (33A). I would guess the headlamp pulls about 6A, the display/computer/BMS might pull an amp.. the running lights might draw a couple amps. A 20A horn would be close - I guess the best way to determine it would be to actually monitor what the 12v supply is providing.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 19, 2012, 03:26:36 AM
There is a 12 volt accessory outlet kit, but is is rated up to 10 amps only and you also need to get a required bracket.

Charge a GPS, smart phone or mp3 player using the Zero Motorcycles 12V accessory outlet. Designed to connect directly to your Zero’s internal power port harness, the 12V current allows riders to charge small devices as well as to power low wattage heating devices. When your Zero is turned on, a blue LED indicates that the outlet is live and ready to charge.

»» Supplies 12V current needed to charge small devices
»» Rated up to 10amps/120watts
»» Required for Zero Motorcycles heated hand grips

45-04061 2010–2012 [Zero S, Zero DS, Zero X, Zero XU] $49.99

12V Accessory Outlet Bracket Required to mount 12V accessory outlet kit.

45-04062 2010–2012 [Zero S, Zero DS] $69.99
45-04063 2010–2012 [Zero X, Zero XU] $54.99




Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: craigq on April 20, 2012, 02:15:16 AM
*checks the Zero online store*
...
Where did you find out about this 12V accessory kit and heated grips option ?  :o
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 20, 2012, 03:04:13 AM
Attached is page 6 of the catalog which has the 12 volt accessory kit.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: Richard230 on April 20, 2012, 04:12:13 AM
Ouch, those footpegs and passenger strap are sure expensive. But the heated grips are a good deal. I think BMW charges around $300 for their heated grips.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: CliC on April 20, 2012, 06:07:22 AM
Ouch, those footpegs and passenger strap are sure expensive. But the heated grips are a good deal. I think BMW charges around $300 for their heated grips.

The pegs must include the additional frame brackets that they bolt to. They look like cast pieces in the catalog pic, though $350 is still a bi steep. At least I know how the pegs attach now :)

More importantly, though, how did you come across a 2012 accessory catalog, kcsfo?
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: craigq on April 20, 2012, 06:17:05 AM
That's not a low-cost setup for heated grips, that's for sure ($139 for grips, $50 for a 12V kit, plus another 55-70 for the kit mounting kit) . The Oxford Heaterz or HotGrips are quite a bit cheaper, come with their own mounting bracket for the heat controller, but unless there's an easy way to tap into the 12V system I guess we're stuck with the proprietary Zero kit.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 20, 2012, 09:25:13 AM
I emailed sales at zero about the 12 volt accessory and got the catalog.  The cover has "pre-release" on it.  The full catalog is 1618k so it is over the 600k limit for attachment here.  Let me know if anyone want the full catalog and I will email directly to you.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: protomech on April 20, 2012, 08:49:13 PM
You should be able to tap into the 12V accessory power pretty easily, but you'll probably pay a bit for parts and then have to figure out a way to mount the thing nicely. Zero's kit is probably the way to go unless you need more power or more power taps.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: ZeroSinMA on April 23, 2012, 04:12:03 AM
I found the attached instructions for the Bad Boy.  Looks simple enough but just can't find the positive battery terminal.

Ordered the Bad Boy for delivery next week. Will reprot here on my experiences with it.

Received yesterday. It's large for the bike. Can't install it where the factory meep-meep horn goes. Will have to make a new location. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: loud horn
Post by: kcsfo on April 23, 2012, 05:20:20 AM
Thanks for the report, ZeroSinMa.  Will it fit under the sit?