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Marketplace => Buy Sell Trade => Topic started by: MichaelJ on August 07, 2024, 04:54:59 AM
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(2024-10-28 update: the Ribelle has found a buyer as a trade-in for a LiveWire One. I'll be keeping the SS9 for the time being unless someone would like to make an interesting offer.)
Hello,
my wife and I love these bikes for their excellent range (~100mi @ 70mph), charging speed (CCS), and handling, but they're too tall and heavy for us. We've each dropped them (at 0mph) at the end of a long ride. Bikes have never been dropped at speed; they have no known functional damage to structure, battery, or electronics. Both bikes ride like a dream, deliver promised range, and deliver promised L2 and CCS charging speeds.
Bought at ~$24k new each, asking ~$20k each or best offer. Clear titles.
2023 Energica Eva Ribelle RS, Rosso Corsa
* Odo: 507mi
* 21.5 kWh battery
* Marzocchi front fork & Bitubo rear shock absorber
* Riser kit
* Windscreen kit
* Side bags and Energica rack kit, red
* Splash guard
* Rear stand bobbins
* Aftermarket parts: CRG Arrow Bar End mirrors installed to replace stock mirrors, which we still have on hand.
* Damage: right side drop at 0mph damaged some plastics including right front turn signal; now other three signals don't illuminate. Can provide photos.
2023 Energica EsseEsse9+ RS, Sunrise Red
* Odo: 481mi
* 21.5 kWh battery
* Marzocchi front fork & Bitubo rear shock absorber
* Colored belly pan with anthracite stripes, Sunrise Red
* Side bags and Energica rack kit, grey
* Yellow stripes kit
* Rear stand bobbins
* Aftermarket parts: None.
* Damage: left side drop at 0mph scratched some plastics.
Reasons for selling: bikes are too tall and heavy for us; Seattle-area dealership abandoning Energica due to trouble acquiring parts.
Willing to include shipping to continental US from Washington State in the price. Feel free to ask for more detail and photos.
Interested?
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Can you post some pictures?
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Thanks for your patience. Here are photos of the odometer/dashboard and from all four sides for each motorcycle.
EsseEsse9+ RS
https://photos.app.goo.gl/meBZXws9BhLmt1BbA
Eva Ribelle RS
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5EBEoXVyHexSUmje6
I'd like to correct two mistakes in my original post:
1. I understand that it looks misleading to say "no known functional damage" and "signals don't illuminate". I apologize for this miscommunication.
* Both bikes are functional to ride (we rode home safely after the 0mph drops at a stop sign).
* The Eva Ribelle received damage to the front-right turn signal which causes the front-right signal to blink fast and the other three to not illuminate. The dashboard notices this malfunction and reports it.
* The EsseEsse9+ has cosmetic scratches on its left side, but its turn signals are intact and does not have this turn signal malfunction.
2. I made a mistake including the "Yellow stripes kit" line item under the EsseEsse9+ heading. The belly pan is Sunrise Red and has the same dark stripes as the "tank", but the stripes are not yellow. See photo album.
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FWIW, the blinker problem. just replace the damaged light and it will fix all of them. You probably have a short in that front light that got boogered up. It cost what.. 50 bucks 70 bucks for a new light, so whomever gets this, that's an eazy fix. I had the same issue when mine got bumped /knocked over in a parking lot, the blinker got damaged and it started giving faults that will disable ALL the blinkers. The disable is a software thing, as soon as you throw a blinker fault it kills all of them, but that resets when you cycle power, until the next fault that is.
Try taking the cover off the damaged light, it's just 2 screws and wiggle stuff around, it could be as simple as a loose plug in there.
Aaron
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Hello Aaron,
thank you very much for explaining how the turn signal damage causes the other turn signals to not illuminate, and how easy it might be to fix.
Any ideas where to shop for this part? Haven't found it at J&P, RevZilla, or National Cycle so far. I think there's a part number on the cable: "ECIE 917122" and "EN.F.001064.001" are written on it, but that doesn't match anything on those motorcycle parts sites.
ECIE appears to match the name of an Italian company that makes turn signals, among other things: https://www.ecie.it. However, ECIE doesn't have an online store yet.
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https://www.af1racing.com/Energica-Parts-Accessories
check this page, they have all kinds of stuff for the bikes, including both blinkers.
Aaron
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Wow, I see them. Thanks for the link!
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Hi, these Energicas are still available.
Lowering asking price to $18k each or best offer. Both bikes charge fine and are perfectly ridable. Ribelle needs a new front-right turn signal and some plastics.
I'll pay for shipping to you in the United States.
Hoping to do better than a local Harley-Davidson dealership offer of $10k each in trade for Livewire Ones.
Reposting links to photos here for your convenience:
EsseEsse9+ RS
https://photos.app.goo.gl/meBZXws9BhLmt1BbA
Eva Ribelle RS
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5EBEoXVyHexSUmje6
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FWIW while it won't cover major damage (that's what michelin stickers are for :D 8) ) a sharpie can do wonders covering minor fairing / plastic damage. Ive used a black one a time or two on my bikes.
Aaron
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Where are you in Seattle (no address needed, just part of town)? I live in Lynnwood and might be interested.
Also, who was your dealer; the one near Mount Vernon or Tacoma?
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Hi CagivaRider
I'm in Snoqualmie Valley, South of Monroe.
Dealer was SoSo Cycles of Tacoma.
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Every time I tried SoSo's website my malware detector had a fit. I guess we can hope for another dealer soon. If SoSo is not an Energica dealer, then the nearest one is in San Francisco - 800+ miles away.
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I understand and share your concern. This is why I am covering the shipping cost if the buyer is out of state (hopefully a state with an active Energica dealership). This is also why the bikes are being sold as-is unless a new nearby dealership is found who can replace the broken parts before sale. I am grateful for Aaron's recommendation of a store that can provide the stock turn signals, but they don't also have the stock fairing that needs replacement.
Regarding the nearest Energica dealership 800 miles away (near Energica's San Francisco warehouse), I reached out to them to ask if they would let me ship the bikes to them for repair and sell them on consignment. They warned me that they could receive the bikes for repair, bit would also experience delays ordering parts just as I would here in Washington. However, they would not be interested in consignment sales; they would expect me to ship the bikes back home after the repair. Note that only the Ribelle has a broken turn signal and fairing panel. The EsseEsse 9 only has cosmetic scratches.
Energica tells me that they are looking for a new dealership in Washington and have asked me to be patient.
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I think AF1 racing has some used fairings, for sale,or the OEM ones. I have not looked but Energica of new england has parts too. Their parts store is actually robs dyno, but links to energica of new england
https://store.robsdyno.com/product-category/parts-and-accessories/
I didn't see any fairings but might be able to order from him and he can get them to you, or any of the other dealers.
aaron
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Hoping to do better than a local Harley-Davidson dealership offer of $10k each in trade for Livewire Ones.
Good luck with the sale - 10K from the HD dealership is actually pretty good compared to what dealers were offering me here in New York on a '22 Ribelle with under 500 miles on it and in perfect condition.
One dealership offered 8K and another didn't want to tell me how low it was because he knew it would be insulting to me and instead suggested I try to sell it on my own or keep it since the current market for electric motorcycle trade-ins was at an all time low.
I tried selling it for 12K in private sale, but nobody was interested. Hope your geographic situation makes things better for you, but I ended up keeping the bike since it's worth more to me to have as a spare bike than to lose more than half the price I paid for it.
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You can get replacement turnsignals from Aprilia/Piaggio/ Moto Guzzi
Part number for the right front is AP8127804
The part is just the exterior housing so if the socket or wiring are damaged ask for the corresponding part
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https://www.af1racing.com/Energica-Parts-Accessories (https://www.af1racing.com/Energica-Parts-Accessories)
check this page, they have all kinds of stuff for the bikes, including both blinkers.
Aaron
Aaron, thank you for your advice. I received the new right-front turn signal from AF1 Racing and installed it. All turn signals now work correctly!
Bike is still available for sale.
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Michael I might take you up on it. With this shit going on and mine being in their shop, i dont know if ill get the fucker back!!
Aaron
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Michael I might take you up on it. With this shit going on and mine being in their shop, i dont know if ill get the fucker back!!
Aaron
Hello Aaron,
I'm sorry to hear about your bike caught in the shop while all this is happening! I am devastated by this news, too!
Please let me know when you are ready to make a specific offer on the Ribelle RS; it's still available for the moment. Asked the local Harley dealership again for a quote and now they're saying they'll count it as $6k towards trade-in for a used Livewire One (down from $10k back in August).
Reposting link to photos for your convenience:
Eva Ribelle RS
https://photos.app.goo.gl/5EBEoXVyHexSUmje6
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Hi Aaron,
Sorry to reply to your message in public like this, but I missed your direct message on the 17th by a few days and am not sure you've seen my direct reply from Sunday that includes my e-mail address.
Would you still be interested in making an offer on the 2023 Ribelle RS with 507 miles on the odo? Or does your Have Faith Young Man (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=13311.msg128104#msg128104) post represent a change of mind?
The local H-D dealership is now offering $6k trade-in value (down from $10k in August) towards a used 2020 H-D LiveWire (not a LiveWire One). Not sure whether to haggle with them now or wait until next spring to see what fate has in store for Energica and its customers.
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Cheers,
Michael
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6K is more inline with the offers I received for my '22 Ribelle with similar miles and in pristine condition, before Energica entered bankruptcy. I decided at that point it was worth more to me to have as an option to ride and maybe rent out on Twisted Road. Unless someone's giving you 10K or more, I would recommend hanging on to it unless it's a financial liability (registration, insurance, maintenance, outstanding financing, etc.)
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The local H-D dealer found a buyer who offered $7k. They're picking up the Ribelle on Wednesday as trade-in for a LiveWire One that my wife feels more confident about flatfooting. I did think about listing the Ribelle on services like Twisted Road but there's no room for a 3rd motorcycle in the garage. I'll keep the SS9 for now and keep my fingers crossed for Energica's future.
Thank you all for your interest.
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Michael I am sorry I didn't follow thru with you. IM still trying to get someone to talk to me about MY RIbelle still in the shop. I reallly wish they'd do something or at least officially SAY something but well, this process takes time. Until I find out what is going on with my bike, I have to take it easy on yours because well. I don't know what ill need / want, will it be a hanger whore, whatever..
Hopefully that buyer works out for you as I know youve been trying to get that for a while now.
I am interested in an SS9 and was considering getting one until this all happened here.
Aaron
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Thank you for following up, Aaron. I still have the SS9 and would like to continue to ride it to accompany my wife. Given what has happened with Energica, I'm keeping an eye on Verge (https://www.vergemotorcycles.com/), which also offers good range and DC fast charging, and hopefully a lower center of gravity.
Verge is manufactured outside of the US, so it likely won't qualify for any federal incentives, and I don't live in California, so I can't qualify for those either, if they pass.
Verge is hiring in San Francisco and Los Angeles for a future sales presence in the US, so hopefully they will overcome homologation and begin sales before my SS9 gives up the ghost.
I'm the meantime Aaron, it you (or anyone else here) are still interested in my SS9, I would be willing to entertain serious offers.
Ten years ago, I sold a Brammo Empulse R here under similar circumstances. Its unfortunate what the e- motorcycle industry is going through.
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I might sell my 2023 RS if I had a decent offer, 600 miles, clear title, A few goodies Corbin seat, LED signals. etc
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I might be able to beat the dealer offer, but I can’t justify anything near a five digit price.
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Thank you for your consideration, StableOfZeros. A H-D dealer near me found someone willing to make a $7k offer, which they honored for the Ribelle trade-in. May I ask how far above $7,000 is "anything near" $10,000 (the lowest possible five digit price)? Bob Barker might say $7,001, but then I'd have to pay or split shipping costs to you, which will reduce what I receive.
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If you’re just in WA I might just fly/train up and ride it back. Hopefully thus increasing what you keep. I didn’t think you’d even consider it so I hadn’t come up with a specific number. Hard for me to turn away from something around $7k though.
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StableofZeros, I'm sorry--I didn't mean to give the impression that I would consider $7,001 a serious offer. Yes, it meets my criterion of "beat the dealer" and your criterion of "not 5 digits", but that would be lowballing myself. I am not aware of any defects in the SS9 and am looking forward to continuing to ride it in the spring.
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Nor was I offering $7,001. But like I said, I’m not gonna be asking you to spend your money on shipping either.