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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: wadejesu on September 05, 2023, 02:53:17 AM
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On my 2023 Ribelle I noticed TC and Motor current indicators on top of display don't work anymore, any ideas? I did have a MIL but it cleared, top of display still blank.
Items 3 & 4 on page 26 of owners manual
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Mine worked when bike was new then stopped working but the LEDs do activate @ <10% SOC as a safeguard-aid me thinks to mitigate trashing cells.
Prior attempts to make it work thru menu selection has failed. could it be a calibration issue?
BTW - what firmware version are you running?
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Did you try to make them work in Rain Mode or Eco Mode?
Maybe they made this 'insensitive' for Urban or Track Mode because the graphic information about the amps is not very useful.
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I know there are some user settings where you can set what you want displayed, like the kw/mile thing you can set the decimal place essentially. Maybe yours is set too high and it's just running out of range really for the resolution you choose? Try a lower setting. I had this on my bike where it would just basically flop back and forth between 0 and 1 sometimes 2 for KW / mile, turns out I had it SET to show KW per mile, when if I set it for WATTS per mile, it opened up the resolution so the data shown was actually useful because it was much more precise, ie NOT rounded to 1000's unit.
Note: My use of the terms KW/mile Watts/mile are NOT exact to how the bike displays it, and the display IS kind of counter intuitive there when setting things, but you'll see what I mean when you get into the menu selection mode.
Aaron
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Odd thing is that they used to work and now they don't and I have not changed any settings.
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What is your SOC? Do you still get the full power? In limp mode, afaik, the LEDs don't work. Maybe already a low SOC makes them inactive?
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SOC 95% bike has full power No LEDS, have them set to ON in Display settings.
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Ok, then that is eliminated as a possible cause. Maybe @Demoni can chime in?
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I remember seeing something in the manual, a sentence somewhere on how you can change that display on the ribelle. I think some part of it was tied in with the green eyeball setting as well, but don't quote me on that.
Putting the bike in ECO mode or a very low battery putting you into a conservative power mode, would actually make the LED's activate more, as you'd be going to full throttle a lot faster than in normal mode, since the power applied is so much less than normal driving. Rain mode will also make them much more 'active' as well. In normal or sport mode, you crank the throttle all the way the bike is going to want to stand on end, so you don't do that very much at all! In rain mode,hammering the throttle, all the lights light up like a christmas tree across your dash but the acceleration is very conservative, comparatively.
Put it in rain mode, and give it good throttle to take off, and cycle thru all the screens and see what you get out of it.
I have a PDF version of the instruction manual, let me do a word search and see if I can find that little blurb where they talked about it again. Now im interested
Aaron
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Are you sure that the LEDs are just reflecting the throttle position? I was under the impression that it was a measure of the actual current from the battery to the motor.
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Current
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Hmmm, LEDs serve as "Motor Current Indicator" but that's not how they respond because the max (red) threshold shifts proportional to SOC meaning at 100% current limit is likely fixed to 40Amps which was published in early bikes having Rinehart traction drives.
Suspect a master reset when battery pack is physically at 100% will solve this because that's all we have to calibrate the system. The menu activation works but the trip point for LEDs is out of range until battery gets to silly SOC levels...that's my data point.
NCM chemistry has a high voltage slope for SOC measurement which makes it easy to adjust "Available Motor Current" but how the system gets lost is anybody's guess.
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Right now SOC is 85% still no LEDs , I'll try a master reset after a 100% charge and see what that does.
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I know there are some user settings where you can set what you want displayed, like the kw/mile thing you can set the decimal place essentially. Maybe yours is set too high and it's just running out of range really for the resolution you choose? Try a lower setting. I had this on my bike where it would just basically flop back and forth between 0 and 1 sometimes 2 for KW / mile, turns out I had it SET to show KW per mile, when if I set it for WATTS per mile, it opened up the resolution so the data shown was actually useful because it was much more precise, ie NOT rounded to 1000's unit.
Valid point on throttle usage, will certainly try Eco/Rain settings suggested and see how LEDs respond. Will also try master reset before full charge and after full charge , bike has never had a master reset cycle as best memory serves....
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Ironic thing is , I did not change any display settings, got a undefined fault which cleared, but now no LEDs. I do now have the current bar item 7 in the display which I don't thing worked until LEDs went away. I guess I need to know where to change power profile settings, damn if I can find it.
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You mean the driving profile settings (eco, rain, urban, race), right?
Lefthand selector device, bottom backside switch.
Mode button to left to select the profile, push mode button to affirm.
When changed during driving, the change is only getting active after the throttle was shortly reduced to nil.
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I know how to change modes, but somehow even if I have current LEDs set to ON, they don't luminate.
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Any new developments?
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Any new developments?
No updates, mine is still bum (not working for unknown reason) in all riding modes except when battery pack is depleted to silly low level that would be the test to try.
Target <10% SOC and I betcha the indicators will work - I'm still exhausting selections on menu screen just to be complete and master reset has no effect.
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just for shits and giggles, try a factory reset is it?
also where it show you for the power display pick watts/mile or the lowest decimal one that there is and see if that does anything.
I bet if you put it in rain mode it will light up for you like it is supposed to.
I find that I don't get a bunch of lights unless I really romp on it or am going pretty fast already like highway plus speeds.
Aaron
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After reviewing some posts by PARD and Spector I did some experimenting, and the LEDs do work. The lower the profile ECO, Rain etc the more they light up. Must be turned on in the settings menu also. I mostly have my profile set to sport, and when I grab a handful of throttle, I'm looking at the road not the display. Yesterday I watched display during some spirited riding and the bar graph does indeed work. Been screwing with this for a year. Thought something was wrong. Manual is not very clear on this subject.
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The lower the profile ECO, Rain etc the more they light up.
I watched display during some spirited riding and the bar graph does indeed work.
Bravo...focus on road explains it for me too...
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when you are doing 3 digits you need to be watching the road, not concentrating on some small print on the dash or some blinkey lights, or the next blinkey lights you may see will be blue or the life flight. not a good day.
If you do ever get a chance to peg it on the highway you can play with the throttle and see how the lights go up and down as you twist the throttle, you may want to turn your regen real low when doing this so you are not blopping the bike all over and your speed stays somewhat constant.
aaron