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Title: Buell Flow news
Post by: Richard230 on July 27, 2023, 04:14:23 AM
The Buell Flow is back and taking orders: https://thepack.news/the-urban-electric-commuter-fuell-fllow-designed-by-erik-buell-is-now-opening-orders/
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: TheRan on July 27, 2023, 05:06:25 AM
I'm getting some deja vu. I swear this thing has been "available to order" for probably a year now and always with an estimated shipping date. Currently the site says "funding" and the "campaign" ends in 29 days, it's sounding like something off Kickstarter and we know how a lot of those projects go. Also if you reload the product page you can catch this. Of course they're past that date now, but if that's what they needed and what they've got then I don't think another month is going to net them $54m.

It's a shame because it sounds like a great bike at a cracking price, but likely just another case of too good to be true.
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: Richard230 on July 27, 2023, 05:52:05 AM
I'm getting some deja vu. I swear this thing has been "available to order" for probably a year now and always with an estimated shipping date. Currently the site says "funding" and the "campaign" ends in 29 days, it's sounding like something off Kickstarter and we know how a lot of those projects go. Also if you reload the product page you can catch this. Of course they're past that date now, but if that's what they needed and what they've got then I don't think another month is going to net them $54m.

It's a shame because it sounds like a great bike at a cracking price, but likely just another case of too good to be true.

I missed that. It sure doesn't look very promising. Getting that kind of money in today's economy is very unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: princec on July 27, 2023, 08:49:54 PM
It's got a lot of the right specs and a face only a mother could love, as is Buell's way. I can't help but wonder if he might do a lot better with these ventures if he tried a bit less hard to make them look weird and different.

Cas :)
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: JaimeC on July 28, 2023, 12:27:15 AM
Erik retired from the company last year, but was involved with the design and specs.  It ticks a LOT of boxes (huge onboard storage, fast charging, modular design) but I've made it a rule to NEVER buy the first model year of any vehicle.  I've been burned too many times in the past.  I'll let others be the "beta testers."  I'll stick with my tried and true 2021 Zero SR; it does everything I need it to do right now.
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: wavelet on July 29, 2023, 08:34:57 PM
I'm getting some deja vu. I swear this thing has been "available to order" for probably a year now and always with an estimated shipping date. Currently the site says "funding" and the "campaign" ends in 29 days, it's sounding like something off Kickstarter and we know how a lot of those projects go. Also if you reload the product page you can catch this. Of course they're past that date now, but if that's what they needed and what they've got then I don't think another month is going to net them $54m.

It's a shame because it sounds like a great bike at a cracking price, but likely just another case of too good to be true.
Crowdsourcing is a really, really, really bad way to fund mass-production.
If you can't find a real investor, your product pretty much guaranteed not ready for prime time.
And since Erik Buell has no connection to it anymore, I don't trust them to do a good job of engineering long-term.
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: JaimeC on July 31, 2023, 05:45:37 PM
First off, a correction to the subject:  It SHOULD be "Fuell Fllow news."  The company is called "Fuell."  "Buell" is an unrelated company that was formerly known as "EBR."  And the "Fllow" is spelled with two "Ls".

Now a more detailed article on the bike in question:
https://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle-news/erik-buell-fuell-fllow-preorders-available/
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: JaimeC on August 01, 2023, 03:22:25 AM
So I guess he's not COMPLETELY retired from Fuell.  Here's an update from the man himself:
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: Richard230 on August 03, 2023, 07:26:40 PM
Here is an article published by Motorcycle.com regarding the FUELL Flow production plans. It sure looks like Erik Buell is the spokesperson for this company: https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/news/erik-buell-designed-fuell-flow-now-open-for-pre-orders-44592085
Title: Re: Buell Flow news
Post by: JaimeC on August 04, 2023, 03:09:56 AM
To hear Erik talk about the Fllow:  https://theridingobsession.podbean.com/e/buell-s-fuell/

Skip ahead to the 34-minute mark to skip all the blathering...