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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: Specter on March 08, 2023, 12:15:29 AM
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Was riding home today, turned the left turn signal on, got a Left Turn Signal Fault, error message flash up on the screen. Hit the mode button to 'acknowledge' it and it went away. Neither turn signal would work from then on. Id push the button but NO indication on the dash they or the emergency flashers would work. Got home turned bike off and back on and everything went back to working fine. I checked all the wires / connections, everything seemed very tight, no damage, no burned out bulbs etc. Any ideas what that was?
Didn't like that I had to cycle bike power to get it to clear, be nice if there was some sort of 'error reset' you could do on the fly so you don't have to find a place to park, cycle key bla bla.
Aaron
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Any ideas what that was?
I am going to guess just a random bug. Like the one I had last week on my Experia. I charged up the bike, then I went through the routine to stop the charge before a full charge was completed. I disconnected everything okay, but the screen said nothing at all.
I get back on the freeway and ride for around five miles and a message pops up on my screen that says "you may now disconnect the charging cable."
IMO, these days a few random bugs are to be expected.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I have the same kind of issues as well when charging. For like the first 5 or 10 minutes you have the ability to press the button to interrupt the charge. After that, nothing, there is no interrupt, pressing the buttons, the mode, the program in back, nothing. cycling power really don't do anything either except make it ask you for your pin number, which was VERY odd. I had to just pull the plug from the wall, it would not release the cable, turn the bike off, would not release the cable, then turn it back on, and finally it released the cable and stopped the charge.
I get it that charging can be a bit goofy because it has to communicate, but when using AC ie Mode 1, or 2, since the bike is the ONLY entity really controlling it, this should be a no brainer and issues like this should really. not be. I don't want to charge up to 100 percent, i want to stop at 80 to 85. I should be able to 'push the button' and stop it and not have to just yank the plug.
FWIW you do that sh$^t on a heavy DC charging current and you are going to pit some contact points up !!
Aaron
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FWIW you do that sh$^t on a heavy DC charging current and you are going to pit some contact points up !!Aaron
Nope. I make sure the charger is off before I remove the plug. You can hear the fan in the CCS charger stop as well as there should be a message on the CCS charger screen that the charging has stopped.
I have only used a couple of fast chargers on my Experia but I was always able to turn them off from the bike. Besides that, they can also be turned off at the charger.
I have used countless CCS fast chargers on my SS9 and never had a problem turning any off from the bike. Turning them on is the difficult part. Rarely does it start on my first try. Surprisingly, the chargers that work best with my SS9 and are most likely to work on the first try are the same chargers that will not work at all on my Experia.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Didn't like that I had to cycle bike power to get it to clear, be nice if there was some sort of 'error reset' you could do on the fly so you don't have to find a place to park, cycle key bla bla.
Coming back to Aaron's question now. :P
@Aaron: With 'on the fly' you mean, during driving? I doubt there is such a reset.
One time, when I accidentially hit the emergency stop wearing thick gloves and trying to toggle the cruise control, I managed somehow to press the ES button and slightly engaging the front break, getting the bike to work again before coming to a standstill. On another occasion I could make that work because I was too slow.
Then there is the 'big' reset when you press both menu buttons (front and back) on the left side simultaneously for 10 seconds until the screen goes black and you hear some relais clicking. But for that to work the bike must not be in GO mode (i.e. kickstand down or ES engaged). At least I think so.
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Well on the fly..
if it's a minor error, like a blinkey blinkey light didn't give you a warm fuzzy. That's a minor thing.. all things considered. Should be able to press something etc, try to reset it and see if it goes away, without having to pull over and turn the bike off. If it's a big fault, ie relay welded or ABS fault, then yah, lets pull over and see what's going on where it's safe.
Just my two watts worth.
Aaron
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Was riding home today, turned the left turn signal on, got a Left Turn Signal Fault, error message flash up on the screen. Hit the mode button to 'acknowledge' it and it went away. Neither turn signal would work from then on. Id push the button but NO indication on the dash they or the emergency flashers would work. Got home turned bike off and back on and everything went back to working fine. I checked all the wires / connections, everything seemed very tight, no damage, no burned out bulbs etc. Any ideas what that was?
Didn't like that I had to cycle bike power to get it to clear, be nice if there was some sort of 'error reset' you could do on the fly so you don't have to find a place to park, cycle key bla bla.
Aaron
Had this happen twice, yesterday for the second time. Exact same thing. Indeed annoying.
Anybody else get this error? Known solution, Known cause?
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Happy new year!
From my tinkering with the indicators I suspect a high current fault, then for safety reasons the bike shuts them down completely. Maybe checking again for loose connections or a wire wirh its isolation rubbed off would be good.
Next maybe try if exchanging all bulbs will help (or install LED).
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Pard, it was a bad turn signal.
I did not see it at the time but the plastic lens cracked and it got moisture in it and was causing issues.
If you look inside the light, there is like a little board I guess you could call it that can give you grief as well. Also, the light bulb where it plugs into the socket, there are wires right there that can cause problems, and follow the wiring back thru your fairing and right up in there there is a plug that can work itself loose and cause problems.
I replaced the signal and it's worked fine ever since.
one word of caution if you do throw a signal fault it can possibly disable ALL your turn signals, not just the one in question, but a quick power cycle will reset the fault condition.
Open your lights, take a screw driver and take the lens' off, make sure it's dry and tight in there. If you see any moisture in there, just pay the 30 dollars or whatever they cost which aint too much and put a new light on. It's worth the peace of mind.
aaron
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Excellent advice! Gracias!
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The Energica indicators are the same as for an Aprilia. You might get a good price at ebay.
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The Energica indicators are the same as for an Aprilia. You might get a good price at ebay.
Good info. Thanks!
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they are mirrored too so front left is same as rear right and vise versa.
also as another side note now that memory comes back.... if you dropped your bike at any time, or had a close brush with something, and whanged the turn signal, even though it may look ok, you probably shook the shit out of the insides of it, so open it up and make sure it isn't cracked on the board or the base the bulb screws into.
Aaron
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they are mirrored too so front left is same as rear right and vise versa.
also as another side note now that memory comes back.... if you dropped your bike at any time, or had a close brush with something, and whanged the turn signal, even though it may look ok, you probably shook the shit out of the insides of it, so open it up and make sure it isn't cracked on the board or the base the bulb screws into.
Aaron
Never dropped the bike or anything. No water in the lights.
They just seem to short out if I am signaling and going over a bump. Must be causing a connection break as a result, and the electronics on the bike are super sensitive as we all know.
Will replace them if it happens again or two...
These are a direct fit as well, connectors need to be spliced:
https://www.madhornets.com/front-rear-indicators-turn-signal-short-stalk-winker-bmw-s1000rr-2010-2014-smoke/?sku=TS-115-Smoke
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pard when I had that issue is was a loose plug at first. the wire that comes off your light, plugs into a harness of sorts, check that connection, and check where the wires solder onto the board on the light holder. Also, that wire that comes off the light it plugs in behind the fairing, that wire you may need to trade back and see if THAT plug is tight. Where the light wire plugs in, yes the plugs seem tight but the connections are not always tight, it's pushed DOWN tight but it's like it's not squeezed tight to make the connection... if that makes sense... unplug, look in side make sure no corrosion then replug snug.. that helped me for a while until I did finally break it.
put your bike up on a chock, kick the stand in, and enable it... the chock is to hold it up so it don't fall over w/o needing the kickstand so it CAN enable. enable it and then wiggle your turn signals and knock on them fairly gently / wiggle the wires... if there are any issues that right there should throw your fault and you'll immediately see it, and be able to play to isolate exactly WHERE the bad connection is. tighten it up and go from there.
aaron
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Good plan. Thx!