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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: DonTom on February 09, 2023, 04:47:55 AM
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My 2023 Experia is at the shop at A&S in Roseville! I just now received the Email.
I will head back from this trip on Friday and be at the shop on Tuesday to finish the business!
I can complete this trip in my other RV soon enough.
-Don- Borrego Springs Desert State Park, CA
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My 2023 Experia is at the shop at A&S in Roseville! I just now received the Email.
I will head back from this trip on Friday and be at the shop on Tuesday to finish the business!
I can complete this trip in my other RV soon enough.
-Don- Borrego Springs Desert State Park, CA
Congrats Don! I'll be curious on your thoughts once you get a chance to ride it some distance.
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My 2023 Experia is at the shop at A&S in Roseville! I just now received the Email.
I will head back from this trip on Friday and be at the shop on Tuesday to finish the business!
I can complete this trip in my other RV soon enough.
-Don- Borrego Springs Desert State Park, CA
Ooh, that means they're probably still rolling them out then! Congrats!
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Good for you, Don!
Looking forward to reading your impressions.
Get an action cam and post some ride video!
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Glad to see them rolling in! I almost have my Zero sold, and I want to order an Experia. Anyone know about how long the lead time is? Hoping april ish If I ordered now? Maybe that's wishful thinking...
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Anyone know about how long the lead time is? Hoping april ish If I ordered now? Maybe that's wishful thinking...
I assume you will have to wait a lot less than I did (more than 8 months)but I will guess at least three months for you. Just my guess, nothing more.
BTW, the out-the-door price on the Experia Launch Edition in California (this includes my 3K$ deposit, CA DMV fees, CA Sales Tax and everything else other than insurance) is:
$29,291.90
-Don- Borrego Springs, CA
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Anyone know about how long the lead time is? Hoping april ish If I ordered now? Maybe that's wishful thinking...
I assume you will have to wait a lot less than I did (more than 8 months)but I will guess at least three months for you. Just my guess, nothing more.
BTW, the out-the-door price on the Experia Launch Edition in California (this includes my 3K$ deposit, CA DMV fees, CA Sales Tax and everything else other than insurance) is:
$29,291.90
-Don- Borrego Springs, CA
Ouch! At that price I wouldn't want to take it very far off road. I sure am looking forward to walk-around photos and your analysis of your new bike, comparing it with your Zero and your other Energicas.
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Ouch! At that price I wouldn't want to take it very far off road. I sure am looking forward to walk-around photos and your analysis of your new bike, comparing it with your Zero and your other Energicas.
The only electric bike I would consider taking off road is the one I have with me right now. But for a different reason. Bikes are easy to dump when off road. Even the Zero DS with the small battery is heavy enough when dropped.
Many bikes feel very light until they are dropped!
Besides, I really don't do any off-road riding unless you consider unpaved roads to be "off-road". I am often on unpaved roads on either my Zero DS or my 2002 Suzuki DR200SE.
-Don- Borrego Springs, CA
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Yah, they go over real easy once they start teetering.
also, given the weight of these bikes, when you DO dump it, you ARE going to tear stuff up.
it's just a given.
50 dollar new break lever.
40 dollar new back break foot pedal
50 dollar new blinker light
5 dollar sharpie to color in the smudge on your 400 dollar plastic fairing...
dumping them gets costly :D
Aaron
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On the way home, I stopped off at A&S Motorcycles in in Roseville, CA I am now the legal owner of the 2023 Energica Experica, all insured and all.
The total out-the-door price here in CA with sales tax, DMV fees, etc, was $29,291.90. That includes all CA DMV fees and taxes, my deposit, etc. Everything except for the insurance.
Very nice looking bike. They will deliver it to me sometime next week, perhaps on Tuesday.
My VIN number ends on 000018. The 18TH Experia made by Energica. First one insured by Progressive. Wasn't on their list. Is now, thanks to me.
It will take me a while to learn this thing. Screens are quite a bit different.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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On the way home, I stopped off at A&S Motorcycles in in Roseville, CA I am now the legal owner of the 2023 Energica Experica, all insured and all.
The total out-the-door price here in CA with sales tax, DMV fees, etc, was $29,291.90. That includes all CA DMV fees and taxes, my deposit, etc. Everything except for the insurance.
Very nice looking bike. They will deliver it to me sometime next week, perhaps on Tuesday.
My VIN number ends on 000016. The 16TH Experia made by Energica. First one insured by Progressive. Wasn't on their list. Is now, thanks to me.
It will take me a while to learn this thing. Screens are quite a bit different.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Awesome! Congrats! Let us know if there's anything out of the ordinary we wouldn't think to know about it like when I got my first electric and only realized there's no "putting it in gear to park it" until I bought it. Not gonna back out now of course, just curious.
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Don, congrats!!
Your story series “It’s September”, “It’s October” ect. is for sure the most prominent wait about the ExPee and I think many here have read every post.
Mine has VIN #48, the second at my dealer had #50. They were picked up directly in Modena - not sure but I think sea freight will probably take another 50 days, so that sea cruise is why we received later built bikes.
One hint: My bike was made ready for delivery during last week of January. Around that week there was also a new FW version available for the ExPee. Maybe ask your dealer if yours has received it. The dash does no longer provide any method of displaying the FW version like on the EsseEsse and Ribelles.
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Congrats, Don Tom! Been a long while a comin'
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O\Awesome! Congrats! Let us know if there's anything out of the ordinary we wouldn't think to know about it like when I got my first electric and only realized there's no "putting it in gear to park it" until I bought it. Not gonna back out now of course, just curious.
Before I evan take mine for a ride, I will have the Bullet Brake, TPMS and a GPS installed.
IMO, the Bullet Brake (https://www.bulletbrake.com/) is a must on all electric bikes. Also works as a manual hill hold.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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O\Awesome! Congrats! Let us know if there's anything out of the ordinary we wouldn't think to know about it like when I got my first electric and only realized there's no "putting it in gear to park it" until I bought it. Not gonna back out now of course, just curious.
Before I evan take mine for a ride, I will have the Bullet Brake, TPMS and a GPS installed.
IMO, the Bullet Brake (https://www.bulletbrake.com/) is a must on all electric bikes. Also works as a manual hill hold.
-Don- Auburn, CA
What is your go to method for TPMS and GPS? I want these as well. I already have a bullet brake on the ready.
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What is your go to method for TPMS and GPS? I want these as well. I already have a bullet brake on the ready.
I am hoping I can add my Garman LM395LM. It has the TPMS built-in and I have the two TPMS sensors. The Garmin has one of the best TPMS I have seen.
However, if the Experia uses the same type of valve stem as my Esse Esse 9-, I will not be able to add these sensors, because they will hit the calibers. I will then have to use a separate TPMS with the very small sensors. I forgot to look at the valve stems when the bike was in the shop.
The USB ports that have the 5VDC USB output are always fed with 12 volts, but I will probably make my own USB GPS cable if the stupid (I repeat, it's stupid) USB port if it can handle the current. Probably not. So I will remove the USB port and install a 12-volt socket and then I can use both, 12V and USB by plugging in an adapter that costs $1.25 at a Dollar Store.
Having USB on a motorcycle is useless compared to a 12V socket. The 12V has a higher currant capacity and can always plug in a USB adapter if needed.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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What is your go to method for TPMS and GPS? I want these as well. I already have a bullet brake on the ready.
I am hoping I can add my Garman LM395LM. It has the TPMS built-in and I have the two TPMS sensors. The Garmin has one of the best TPMS I have seen.
However, if the Experia uses the same type of valve stem as my Esse Esse 9-, I will not be able to add these sensors, because they will hit the calibers. I will then have to use a separate TPMS with the very small sensors. I forgot to look at the valve stems when the bike was in the shop.
The USB ports that have the 5VDC USB output are always fed with 12 volts, but I will probably make my own USB GPS cable if the stupid (I repeat, it's stupid) USB port if it can handle the current. Probably not. So I will remove the USB port and install a 12-volt socket and then I can use both, 12V and USB by plugging in an adapter that costs $1.25 at a Dollar Store.
Having USB on a motorcycle is useless compared to a 12V socket. The 12V has a higher currant capacity and can always plug in a USB adapter if needed.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Hmm, that sounds a bit hacky, is there really no way to power the GPS from USB? it doesn't use that much power, right?
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Hmm, that sounds a bit hacky, is there really no way to power the GPS from USB? it doesn't use that much power, right?
Most GPS units come with a 12V cable as does the Garmin 395LM. However, they really run from five volts anyway, the cable itself has a small DC2DCC to go from 12V to 5VDC. However, they draw more than a half amp. Some USBs are only a half amp, some are a couple of amps. I have no idea what the Experia uses. But I am about to find out. But the 12V feeding the USB outlet probably can handle ten amps. That's why I say it is so stupid for the bike to come with a USB port instead of a 12V outlet. Then you can plug in your own USB if you want, at several amps or use the 12VDC outlet.
The stupidly of the USB is getting to be more common these days. I had to change every one of them in my 2022 RV. It had about ten USB outlets and not a single 12V outlet. But all the outlets were fed with 12V, as is the norm. Now I have all 12V outlets, no useless USB outlets at all. But I have the plugin adapters. (https://www.amazon.com/RAMPOW-24W-Dual-USB-Charger/dp/B07KHWN81G/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=12v+to+usb+adapter&qid=1676273017&sr=8-5)
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Simple to change the dashboard USB to a 12V outlet. The USB ports have a 15A fuse, so plenty for any GPS. There‘s also a second 12V port behind the dash, left side, that has a JST 2-pole connector. I have used that one for my Garmin Zumo XT which sadly does no longer support the TPMS.
I had the Garmin Zumo 395 with TPMS on my Esse Esse. It was close to the calipers - but however it was okay. Don, you can ask your dealer to rotate the valve a bit so there is room for the TPMS cap. Experia has the same wheel configuration than SS9.
The photo shows the Hella plug for the double USB supply plus the mentioned JST connector for GPS. The cable is even labeled with GPS.
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Simple to change the dashboard USB to a 12V outlet. The USB ports have a 15A fuse, so plenty for any GPS. There‘s also a second 12V port behind the dash, left side, that has a JST 2-pole connector. I have used that one for my Garmin Zumo XT which sadly does no longer support the TPMS.
I had the Garmin Zumo 395 with TPMS on my Esse Esse. It was close to the calipers - but however it was okay. Don, you can ask your dealer to rotate the valve a bit so there is room for the TPMS cap. Experia has the same wheel configuration than SS9.
The photo shows the Hella plug for the double USB supply plus the mentioned JST connector for GPS. The cable is even labeled with GPS.
Thanks for that handy info! What has to be done to rotate the valves? Does the tire need to come off the rim?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Can’t say. I had the valve rotated when I got new tires as the valve was pointing to the left hand side of the bike. Surprisingly, this is again the case on the Experia. However I like it better on the right hand side since this is better accessible when the bike is parked on the side stand.
Just ask your dealer if he can do this. But before: check the clearance - it might just work as it is.
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Can’t say. I had the valve rotated when I got new tires as the valve was pointing to the left hand side of the bike. Surprisingly, this is again the case on the Experia. However I like it better on the right hand side since this is better accessible when the bike is parked on the side stand.
Just ask your dealer if he can do this. But before: check the clearance - it might just work as it is.
Here is how it is done (https://youtu.be/JHxVsLMnWW0?t=193) with the wheel still on the bike.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I got an update for my upcoming Experia today! There should be another batch to arrive early April and mine will be in that shipment. Cant wait! I was able to acquire a manual btw so I got that settled! Too bad it is far past the limit for attachments here.(40MB)
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I got an update for my upcoming Experia today! There should be another batch to arrive early April and mine will be in that shipment. Cant wait! I was able to acquire a manual btw so I got that settled! Too bad it is far past the limit for attachments here.(40MB)
All going well I will be picking my new Experia up this coming Friday.!! ;D
Got the official "okey-dokey" from AEMC today that my bike is pretty much ready to go, all going well it's going to be registered tomorrow.
Smithy.
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Got the official "okey-dokey" from AEMC today that my bike is pretty much ready to go, all going well it's going to be registered tomorrow.Smithy.
That's great news! Did you get your VIN number yet?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I just got the call from Pro Italia in Glendale, CA that my new Experia is ready to go. I hope to ride it home sometime this week. I have to say, I'm pretty excited. Does anyone have recommendations for insurance carriers?
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I just got the call from Pro Italia in Glendale, CA that my new Experia is ready to go. I hope to ride it home sometime this week. I have to say, I'm pretty excited. Does anyone have recommendations for insurance carriers?
I use Progressive. tel:1-855-347-3939. Insure it as soon as you have your VIN. And send a copy to the dealer. Even if you pay cash for the bike, the dealer will still require it to be insured before you ride it away from the shop.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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That's great news! Did you get your VIN number yet?
-Don- Auburn, CA [/quote]
Yes I did the other day...ZNNF2B18XRS000029..! I even have the motor serial number!
As I understand it, there's 7 Experias now in Aus, three customer bikes, three demo bikes and one "promotional" bike...which I assume will be for press/magazine use.
Smithy.
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I use Progressive. tel:1-855-347-3939. Insure it as soon as you have your VIN. And send a copy to the dealer. Even if you pay cash for the bike, the dealer will still require it to be insured before you ride it away from the shop.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Thank you Don. That makes it easy as my other bikes are insured with Progressive. Your tips, questions and input are always good to hear.
David - Santa Maria, CA
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I have always had my electric motorcycles insured with Progressive for 250K/500K liability only. In 2009 my Electric Motorsport GPR-S was insured for only $5 for the entire year. The company gave it an engine size of "1cc". ;D Now my 2018, which is insured by Progressive for the same amount of insurance, costs $120 for the year, whereas my BMW R1200RS has the same coverage and its premium is $105. ???
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This is now in my garage here in Auburn, CA:
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Congratulations! Finally!
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Looks great!!
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Your gonna need a bigger garage
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Your gonna need a bigger garage
I own two homes, each have a 3-car garage. So I have six garages. I may even be able to squeeze one more bike in after the Experia to have an even dozen bikes.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Very nice
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I own two homes, each have a 3-car garage. So I have six garages. I may even be able to squeeze one more bike in after the Experia to have an even dozen bikes.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Yes. An even dozen makes sense. ;D
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Simple to change the dashboard USB to a 12V outlet. The USB ports have a 15A fuse, so plenty for any GPS. There‘s also a second 12V port behind the dash, left side, that has a JST 2-pole connector. I have used that one for my Garmin Zumo XT which sadly does no longer support the TPMS.
I had the Garmin Zumo 395 with TPMS on my Esse Esse. It was close to the calipers - but however it was okay. Don, you can ask your dealer to rotate the valve a bit so there is room for the TPMS cap. Experia has the same wheel configuration than SS9.
The photo shows the Hella plug for the double USB supply plus the mentioned JST connector for GPS. The cable is even labeled with GPS.
Page 103 of the owner's manual says the USB ports are good for 2 amps. That is more than enough to run the GPS. The Garmin 395 cable has a 12-5 volt DC2DCC on the cable that is only does 1.5 amps output at 5VDC. The GPS cable is way too long on the 395 and so I chopped off the converter and now I have a Garmin 395 GPS with a very short USB cable that wants to see only 5 volts. I already tested it on the bike, it works perfectly. I just now need to solder and use heat sink tubing on the very short USB cable I made for my GPS power.
Then I will see how the tire sensors fit.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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This is now in my garage here in Auburn, CA:
Excellent Sir....Good to see it "finally" in your possesion.
I'll be joining you....pick mine up tomorrow..! ;D
Smithy.
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This is now in my garage here in Auburn, CA:
Excellent Sir....Good to see it "finally" in your possesion.
I'll be joining you....pick mine up tomorrow..! ;D
Smithy.
Great!
I have my GPS installed, wheel sensors and all. The Garmin 395LM Wheel sensors clear just fine and all. I am getting the power direct from the 5-volt USB port but I had to make a short cable and remove the 12-volt DC2DCC on the Garmin cable.
Next is to install the Bullet Brake. I have not yet ridden the bike. Too cold here today anyway. So this is a good time to set it up the way I want.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I have the BB installed, GPS with TPMS. Now there is nothing left to do but ride it! I have not yet ridden it even an inch!
That will be tomorrow.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I have the BB installed, GPS with TPMS. Now there is nothing left to do but ride it! I have not yet ridden it even an inch!
That will be tomorrow.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Wow, my first and only bike I've taken delivery on was before I had my Drivers License(only went for an M1 at the time since I can do that in CA) and I got on the FZ07 a month or two later, as soon as I finished the safety course. All other bikes I rode right off the lot! My plan is to take public transit to Livermore as soon as it's ready!
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My plan is to take public transit to Livermore as soon as it's ready!
From where?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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My plan is to take public transit to Livermore as soon as it's ready!
From where?
-Don- Auburn, CA
Sunnyvale, it's a bit of a stretch but I can make it work on a saturday.
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Great! I have not yet ridden the bike. Too cold here today anyway. So this is a good time to set it up the way I want.
-Don- Auburn, CA
We have temps of 30C plus here in Brisbane ATM...So tomorrow, (Friday) will be the same...basically perfect riding weather..! I have a ~140km ride from the dealer to my home...so it'll be a good "baptism of fire"..
Wish me luck.
Smithy.
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Sunnyvale, it's a bit of a stretch but I can make it work on a saturday.
That's only around 35 miles from you.
BTW, a couple of years ago, I rode my SS9- to the Livermore shop from here. It was a nice ride. I had to recharge a few times on the way. But I would have gotten there the same time if I took an ICE bike as I like to take breaks about that often anyway and plenty of places to recharge on the way.
I assume you know they can deliver the bike to you. My SS9- came from the old shop that used to be in Mt. View. They delivered it to Auburn.
A&S delivered my Experia today to here, but they are in Roseville, not too far from here.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Great! I have not yet ridden the bike. Too cold here today anyway. So this is a good time to set it up the way I want.
-Don- Auburn, CA
We have temps of 30C plus here in Brisbane ATM...So tomorrow, (Friday) will be the same...basically perfect riding weather..! I have a ~140km ride from the dealer to my home...so it'll be a good "baptism of fire"..
Wish me luck.
Smithy.
It should make it easily from what I hear!
Sunnyvale, it's a bit of a stretch but I can make it work on a saturday.
That's only around 35 miles from you.
BTW, a couple of years ago, I rode my SS9- to the Livermore shop from here. It was a nice ride. I had to recharge a few times on the way. But I would have gotten there the same time if I took an ICE bike as I like to take breaks about that often anyway and plenty of places to recharge on the way.
I assume you know they can deliver the bike to you. My SS9- came from the old shop that used to be in Mt. View. They delivered it to Auburn.
A&S delivered my Experia today to here, but they are in Roseville, not too far from here.
-Don- Auburn, CA
I did NOT know that, I'll ask Arlie about it, that would be a much better use of time!!
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I love the storage on the bike, wish my Ribelle had that.
Those side boxes? is that a special order, or is that something that can be put on the Ribelle. The ones that came with it are kind of stupid shape and don't hold a lot for the money one pays for them :(
Aaron
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This is now in my garage here in Auburn, CA:
Glad you finally got it Don! We’ll have to meet up again when the weather warms up a bit more (I’ve got my Ribelle in LPR mode while the morning commute temps are in the 30’s). I would love to check it out in person and talk your ear off about how it compares to your SS9.
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Glad you finally got it Don! We’ll have to meet up again when the weather warms up a bit more (I’ve got my Ribelle in LPR mode while the morning commute temps are in the 30’s). I would love to check it out in person and talk your ear off about how it compares to your SS9.
Sure, I will let you ride it, of course. Yours is the very first Energica I rode. And then I was rather hooked. I have not yet ridden my Experia. I plan on doing that today when it warms up a little.
It's 36°F here right now at 0700 hrs. But it will warm up to the 50's by noon. Around then, I will go for my first ride on it.
I will keep my Esse Esse 9- of course. I still will enjoy riding it as much as ever. Its very small windscreen is very nice for the very hot days.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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They give you full coverage?!? I tried to register mine with them almost two months ago and they kept trying to ask if it was a bicycle, or said that because of it's lower power output, it couldn't be covered, on and on. Two supervisors later, they gave me liability only. If they're doing full coverage now, I'll need to call back and get it fixed!
On the way home, I stopped off at A&S Motorcycles in in Roseville, CA I am now the legal owner of the 2023 Energica Experica, all insured and all.
The total out-the-door price here in CA with sales tax, DMV fees, etc, was $29,291.90. That includes all CA DMV fees and taxes, my deposit, etc. Everything except for the insurance.
Very nice looking bike. They will deliver it to me sometime next week, perhaps on Tuesday.
My VIN number ends on 000018. The 18TH Experia made by Energica. First one insured by Progressive. Wasn't on their list. Is now, thanks to me.
It will take me a while to learn this thing. Screens are quite a bit different.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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They give you full coverage?!? I tried to register mine with them almost two months ago and they kept trying to ask if it was a bicycle, or said that because of it's lower power output, it couldn't be covered, on and on. Two supervisors later, they gave me liability only. If they're doing full coverage now, I'll need to call back and get it fixed!
Perhaps the difference is that I already had an Energica insured with them. Also, a Zero SR. Yes, full coverage.
The rest of my bikes have NV plates. I always leave the state's plates on from where the bike was purchased, which will always be either CA or NV.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Anyone with an Experia interested in doing a review writeup. Compare and contrast with the other older Energica models ?
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If you want to give me one, or loan me one, Id be happy to spend a month or so with it and do a wonderful write up for you !!
Aaron
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Anyone with an Experia interested in doing a review writeup. Compare and contrast with the other older Energica models ?
I have an Experia and can indeed do a review of it....however l cannot compare it to earlier Energicas as l've not owned one before.
Smithy.
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I have an Experia and can indeed do a review of it....however l cannot compare it to earlier Energicas as l've not owned one before.Smithy.
I guess that leaves me, as I own both right now and they both have new tires front and back.
Since my 2020 SS9- is a small battery, the biggest difference I notice with the Experia is the range. Now I have enough range to ride with ICE bikes. Seems to me the Experia handles a bit better on a curvy road but there is no problem there with my SS9-. But I am not a speed freak, so I am probably not the best person to compare. Somehow the Experia feels very light when riding. Lighter than my SS9-, but the SS9- doesn't feel bad at all.
My plan, when the weather in the mountains gets better, is to leave the SS9- at my Auburn, CA house and the Experia here at my Reno home. Two reasons:
1. Need more range between charge stations here in NV. If they would fix the broken ones, such as the only CCS in Fallon, NV and the only CCS in Hawthorne, NV it wouldn't be such a big deal. But they have been broken for more than a year. Also, eastern CA is lacking in charge stations, which is closer to Reno. Especially when NW of here.
2. The Auburn area is usually warmer than here in Reno. The smaller windscreen on my SS9- is nice on hot days.
The other advantages of the Experia are obvious. Such as the luggage capacity and a centerstand (someday when it is available).
IMO, there are some minor disadvantages of the Experia:
I find the menu screen to be LESS user friendly on the Experia than on my SS9-. New Experia riders should keep the owner's manual with the bike until they get used to the rather weird menu.
The rear brake pedal is in a stupid position on the SS9-. But it's even in a worse position on the Experia! Way too low. Try it every ride or you will most likely miss it when you need it. You could even be thinking your foot is on the brake when it is not. That already happened to me on my Experia. I would have to look at the bike to remember what my foot landed on when I went for the rear brake, but my Experia isn't here with me. It's at my other house.
Good thing I had my Regen on high at the time!
-Don- Reno, NV
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The rear brake pedal is in a stupid position on the SS9-. But it's even in a worse position on the Experia! Way too low. Try it every ride or you will most likely miss it when you need it. You could even be thinking your foot is on the brake when it is not. That already happened to me on my Experia. I would have to look at the bike to remember what my foot landed on when I went for the rear brake, but my Experia isn't here with me. It's at my other house.
Good thing I had my Regen on high at the time!
-Don- Reno, NV
You can adjust the rear brake pedal height on the Experia.....l did it myself as l experienced the same as you, much too low.
Smithy.
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You can adjust the rear brake pedal height on the Experia.....l did it myself as l experienced the same as you, much too low.
Smithy.
OIC. I will check into that when I get back to Auburn. I wonder why they set it so ridiculously low to begin with.
I will also check the owner's manual as I have it on this computer as a PDF file.
-Don- Reno, NV
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The rear brake pedal is in a stupid position on the SS9-. But it's even in a worse position on the Experia! Way too low.
-Don- Reno, NV
As smithy mentioned the rear brake lever is adjustable on both the SS9 and Experia. There is information about the procedure in the owners manual. Please make to adjust the set screw to allow the specified free play in the lever.
Also check your rear rotor for any discoloration after you have put a few miles on the bike after the adjustment. With a higher lever position it is possible to accidently apply slight pressure causing the brake to constantly be applied.
Over the years I have seen a few bikes where a customer rode for extended time with the rear brake engaged. Best case it can cause a warped rear rotor, at worst the heat can melt the piston seals in the rear caliper.
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@DonTom , thanks for that comparison.
The lighter handling is reported by many. Big Plus.
If you don't mind, can you speak to the following in comparison:
Suspension/ride quality. Better, same, no significant change in feel?
Front end feel through the bars. Does the road feel more connected to your hands?
Acceleration. Slower under normal use? Same?
Braking. Quicker, same? More or less front end dive?
Drive train noise. Louder or quieter?
Many thanks!
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@DonTom , thanks for that comparison.
The lighter handling is reported by many. Big Plus.
If you don't mind, can you speak to the following in comparison:
Suspension/ride quality. Better, same, no significant change in feel?
Front end feel through the bars. Does the road feel more connected to your hands?
Acceleration. Slower under normal use? Same?
Braking. Quicker, same? More or less front end dive?
Drive train noise. Louder or quieter?
Many thanks!
I am not very sensitive to changes in suspension, but it's a real pleasure to ride the way mine came as is. I didn't want to change anything (other than the rear brake pedal position). I would say the braking is the same as my SS9-. I have not noticed any front-end dive in either bike. But I mostly ride like a little old lady, so I am not the best person to ask. I am a rather slow rider, which is great for electric bikes as I get decent range.
I have not yet even tried the Sport mode in the Experia. I have been keeping both bikes mostly in Urban which has more than enough acceleration, power and speed for me.
Drive train noise on the Experia is much less. Its max noise is at a slower speed than my SS9-. My SS9 is loudest around 40 MPH, IIRC, the noise is less on the Experia but loudest at around 25 MPH.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Excellent info ^^ Thank you!
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@DonTom , thanks for that comparison.
The lighter handling is reported by many. Big Plus.
If you don't mind, can you speak to the following in comparison:
Suspension/ride quality. Better, same, no significant change in feel?
Front end feel through the bars. Does the road feel more connected to your hands?
Acceleration. Slower under normal use? Same?
Braking. Quicker, same? More or less front end dive?
Drive train noise. Louder or quieter?
Many thanks!
Just my humble opinion...but here goes..!
Lighter handling..?? Yes, it handles very well for a relatively heavy machine, turns in well and holds it's line in corners very well.
Suspension is also very good for stock items....could it be better..?? Probably but it would come at a considerable cost.
Front end feel is very much like my BMW S1000XR, near telepathic sometimes and goes exactly where you point it, there's very little in the way of wandering or tracking etc...
Front brakes are just ridiculously powerful and feel is good, dive under hard braking is there but negligible. Rear brake is what I would describe as "adequate".
Drive train noise is less than the late model Ribelle that have ridden.
Acceleration is actually better than I was expecting, not many ICE bikes that will keep up with it off the line and up to ~100kmh or so.
Smithy.
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Thank you @smithy !
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Have any more Experia’s been delivered in the US after those deliveries in February?
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Have any more Experia’s been delivered in the US after those deliveries in February?
I'm still waiting on mine, they keep pushing estimated dates back :(
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When did you order? Doesn't make me feel that mine is coming any time soon, I ordered early this year...
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Have any more Experia’s been delivered in the US after those deliveries in February?
I'm still waiting on mine, they keep pushing estimated dates back :(
I also have one that I'm waiting on from CalMoto in Livermore. They reached out to me a few days ago to let me know that HQ confirmed the lead time on new Experias is still 12 weeks. They confirmed that 3 months is a realistic expectation so for me that is mid June.
This looks like the place to post when they arrive. I live really close to the South San Francisco location so I'm hoping I will save a few days by picking it up directly from them rather than waiting for it to be delivered to the dealership.
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It seems there really is a nice demand for these bikes.
Any reason given why the lead time is so high? I mean if they are having issues with some components, can't they stock pile some so it'll last thru to their next order or something?
Just curious
Aaron
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They confirmed that 3 months is a realistic expectation so for me that is mid June.
That was exactly what I was told. Ordered on June 1. I would have it in September-- I was told. I received it in February of the next year. So they were five months late. Their 3-month wait was 8 months for me. And I was not told anything during that time.
-Don- Barstow, CA
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They confirmed that 3 months is a realistic expectation so for me that is mid June.
That was exactly what I was told. Ordered on June 1. I would have it in September-- I was told. I received it in February of the next year. So they were five months late. Their 3-month wait was 8 months for me. And I was not told anything during that time.
-Don- Barstow, CA
Didn't order mine till Sept last year....and like Don, I received my Experia in Feb this year....not as long a wait...but my dealer pretty much kept me up to date with what was going on as best they could.... I knew beforehand it was going to be a considerable wait time...so I wasn't flustered by that wait time.
Smithy.
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This looks like the place to post when they arrive. I live really close to the South San Francisco location so I'm hoping I will save a few days by picking it up directly from them rather than waiting for it to be delivered to the dealership.
I lived in 94080 for many years. But I sold that house just before Energica started up their shop on Spruce.
They would be walking distance from my SSF house by the base of San Bruno Mountain. 0.6 mile from my SSF house the Energica place at 170 S. Spruce Ave.
-Don- Barstow, CA (RV trip with Zero DS)
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If you use the Street View of Google Earth you can see a row of Energica bikes in shipping crates in front of 170 South Spruce Avenue, South San Francisco. Interestingly, the Google Earth picture truck drove right down the driveway in front of the multi-use commercial building.
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I put my deposit down in late July 2022 and have recently been told by Energica that my delivery will be in early June. They said they are trying to get motos out to northern riders first due to a more limited riding season. But a subsequent email seemed to hedge on that date.
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I put my deposit down in late July 2022 and have recently been told by Energica that my delivery will be in early June. They said they are trying to get motos out to northern riders first due to a more limited riding season. But a subsequent email seemed to hedge on that date.
How do you get these emails? Thanks.
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How do you get these emails? Thanks.
Be sure your local dealer has your email address and that should take care of the others who need it.
-Don- Kingsburg, CA (rest stop)The free CCS chargers here (https://www.plugshare.com/location/303858) are working fine, disregard Plugshare, I just reported them as working and they are now being used by others.)
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My dealer definitely has my email, no updates like those above though (I've asked).
How do you get these emails? Thanks.
Be sure your local dealer has your email address and that should take care of the others who need it.
-Don- Kingsburg, CA (rest stop)The free CCS chargers here (https://www.plugshare.com/location/303858) are working fine, disregard Plugshare, I just reported them as working and they are now being used by others.)
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My dealer definitely has my email, no updates like those above though (I've asked).
The only reason I know others got my info. from the dealer is when Tom Hoff called me at home not long after the Experia order. He asked if I wanted a 120 VAC or 240 VAC charge thingy. Come to think of it, I never got any type of charge cable with my bike. But I have many of them anyway, both for 120 VAC as well as for 240 VAC. And I rarely use them until I need to charge more than one EV at the same time. I normally use my Tesla Wall Connector with a Tesla Tap. I have that setup at both my houses with several types of charge cables as well.
Did others get a charge cable with their Experias?
-Don- Turlock, CA
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Did others get a charge cable with their Experias?
Yes.
At least in Germany, all Energicas including Experia come with the 220V ICCB. My Experia LE even had an Energica-branded motorcycle garage mat on top - that was coming from Energica, not from my dealer.
However, neither is clearly listed on Energica's Web Page as "the bike comes with...". I can see there's a Type2 charge cable listed as accessory - but the ICCB is not, so my interpretation is the ICCB is standard accessory.
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The reason they are calling you is to make it as easy to use as possible for you. They will want to know what kind of outlet you will be plugging the thing into so when you get it, it literally is plug and play, and you won't have to get an electrician to put in a new plug for you or find some sort of goofy adapter which may or may not work for you. This is info you should make sure they receive, or your dealer so that you can be supplied with the proper plug.
Note, if you are a US customer and go with the Level 2 charger that does 240 volts, you CAN use it to charge on 115 volt too, however the adapters you find online, most of them don't work because they are wired incorrectly, with the power lead, tapped to both hots, instead of one being tied to the N for the 115 return on what would otherwise be a 'power leg'. It's super easy to make an adapter though that literally is a female of XX connector you got for your 240 plug, and a M of the 115 outlet that YOU wired correctly across the hots.
Aaron
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Did others get a charge cable with their Experias?
-Don- Turlock, CA
When I picked my Experia up the Dealer said the charger would be sent to me by the next Friday. That was February. It has not arrived. Hard to feel bad when others are still waiting for the bike.
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Get on the dealers ass about it. Don't let them get away with shitting on you, this is not some beemer bullshit that should just be 'accepted' as par for the course. Energica has much higher standards as to how they expect their customers to be treated, so hold the bastards at the dealership to task with it.
Aaron
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I received a 240vac charge cable when I picked up my Experia...came with one of those Energica roll up shop mats too....all the luggage, panniers, mounting frame and top box came in boxes for me to fit if I so choose.
The only thing I haven't received yet is the "pre-ordered" centre stand....I believe they're in big demand...but none have yet been delivered that I'm aware of.
Smithy.
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When did you order? Doesn't make me feel that mine is coming any time soon, I ordered early this year...
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
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WOW, you ordered over 1 year ago and still do not have the bike?! Geez, how are they telling others 12 weeks??? That's about what I was told.
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
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WOW, you ordered over 1 year ago and still do not have the bike?! Geez, how are they telling others 12 weeks??? That's about what I was told.
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
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Yep, every update for order times I had to email, call and pry it out of them, they had not once called me to say we have an updated timeframe. It was originally end of September, November, before the end of the year, first couple weeks of January, first week of February, then mid March and now the latest is late April early may. I'm getting quite tired of this.
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When I picked my Experia up the Dealer said the charger would be sent to me by the next Friday. That was February. It has not arrived. Hard to feel bad when others are still waiting for the bike.
I was not told anything about a charge cable. I was only was asked what type I wanted back in June. But I really do not care as I own many of them, more than I can use.
I am a lot more interested in getting the centerstand.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Where are you located? I'm really hopeful for all of us, soon. :o
WOW, you ordered over 1 year ago and still do not have the bike?! Geez, how are they telling others 12 weeks??? That's about what I was told.
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
Yep, every update for order times I had to email, call and pry it out of them, they had not once called me to say we have an updated timeframe. It was originally end of September, November, before the end of the year, first couple weeks of January, first week of February, then mid March and now the latest is late April early may. I'm getting quite tired of this.
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Where are you located? I'm really hopeful for all of us, soon. :o
WOW, you ordered over 1 year ago and still do not have the bike?! Geez, how are they telling others 12 weeks??? That's about what I was told.
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
Yep, every update for order times I had to email, call and pry it out of them, they had not once called me to say we have an updated timeframe. It was originally end of September, November, before the end of the year, first couple weeks of January, first week of February, then mid March and now the latest is late April early may. I'm getting quite tired of this.
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Bay Area, CA
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I'm in regular contact with my dealer, as well as Tom Huff at Energica, by email.
As for the charging cable, shortly after I placed my order, I was asked what kind of outlet I have in my garage. I planned on having a 220v outlet installed, and Energica sent me a list of outlets with different plug configurations compatible with their cables. I told them I installed the 50 amp NEMA1450 outlet, and they then said they will supply the appropriate cable. Recently, my dealer told me that I will need to get an adapter as Energica will only be supplying one type of cable. When I complained that this is another $150 extra I did not expect, Energica told me that they will in fact supply the cable compatible with my outlet.
As I learn more (this is my first EV), I realize I probably will want to carry an adapter with me when traveling...
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Commodore, it's easy to make your OWN adapter. Literally two plug ends, and 3 or 4 conductor wire. Goto one of the hardware stores and all the pieces can be bought for maybe 20 dollars. I'd go with 12 gauge wire, however since the max it will ever see on AC is 15 amps you could get away with 14 ga for a few pennies cheaper.
If you are going to be doing L1 or L2 charging, or mooching off wherever you happen to park at and see an outlet, you never know what they have there! Make a few pigtails to carry along with your charger head and you'll be set for whatever you pull up on.
As a side note, when charging, AFTER the charge is done, or if you interrupt it, always try to set your charge rate down to around 3 or 4 amps. This way, when you plug in somewhere new, it'll get started, initiated and going while you take a minute to look around and see what the overall electric scene looks like. if it's fairly new and you are the only one there, you can probably bump it up to 10 - 15 amps and get that charge. if it's some raggedy ass rusted out crap with spider webs on it, you may only be able to get 8 or 9 amps, but by starting low, you don't risk tripping the breaker and now getting nothing, besides a pissed off station person who may nor may not have a clue how to reset the breaker.
Aaron
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Where are you located? I'm really hopeful for all of us, soon. :o
WOW, you ordered over 1 year ago and still do not have the bike?! Geez, how are they telling others 12 weeks??? That's about what I was told.
My order is officially dated May 6th 2022. I'm surprised others jumped the line here somehow. I was told others had dates earlier than mine.
Yep, every update for order times I had to email, call and pry it out of them, they had not once called me to say we have an updated timeframe. It was originally end of September, November, before the end of the year, first couple weeks of January, first week of February, then mid March and now the latest is late April early may. I'm getting quite tired of this.
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I was "told" by my dealer, that my bike is "on the water" as of last week (2 containers full, not sure what models). He's expecting to get 3 experias from that shipment, I'm the first on his list. So, maybe early June? I sure hope so.
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That depends where they are coming in from. If it's a cali port, which I am sure it is, yah it's going to be a while making it thru. Id look more at early July or so, from my experiences waiting on stuff coming thru Oakland or any west coast ports.
I sell green coffee online and buy it in bulk from around the world, and frequently have shipments coming in via the west coast, and have seen delays of a month or more. The ship may get here, but be stuck waiting to offload for a while is what the general delay seems to be. Then there's customs, potentially a bonding warehouse bla bla bla.
Good luck and hopefully you DO see it soon. I know how frustrating it is waiting for a bike and you can't get any info on it other than it's on the way!
In the mean time, keep signing up for 'Test Drives' from your dealer until it does arrive ;D 8)
Tell him, you are just not quiiiiite sure yet and would like to run it for a week or to to get a real feel for the bike hehe.
Aaron
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Thanks Aaron. I believe they come in through Florida now based on what I heard from some other discussions. Faster into country but then criss crosses it 1.5 times to get to me. Lol
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I will confirm that all bikes, for the time being, go to the port of Miami. Energica used to use the port of Oakland but ever since COVID it got hopelessly backlogged and it's cheaper/faster to offload in Miami and truck them to the South SF warehouse for the inspection by the service technicians.
One of the customs agents in the Port of Oakland has ordered an Experia and I asked him if he thought Oakland might clear up anytime soon so they could resume shipping there instead. He just laaaaaaughed.
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I was "told" by my dealer, that my bike is "on the water" as of last week (2 containers full, not sure what models). He's expecting to get 3 experias from that shipment, I'm the first on his list. So, maybe early June? I sure hope so.
From what dealer? I hope they shipped more than 3! I'm definitely getting one of those.
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Morgan, you should convince Energica to open up shop in Jacksonville. We have an awesome port of entry, lightning fast to get thru!!, plus if they do the final 'assembly' here, it then qualifies for the 7500 cash back when people buy them here, which can be a HUGE incentive to get one! Given Energica is expecting to gain traction very quickly here, it'd make very astute business sense. The got you guys on the west coast, handling things over there, open up a shop on the east coast, that way you got two POE's in case one bottlenecks. Instead of shipping the bikes there then back here to sell, get it in, screw it together and ship right out of Fla, not to mention Fla is a LOT friendlier to business' than cali is tax wise and pretty much everything else wise too.
Aaron
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Big news, a shipment of Experias arrived at South City and they're being assembled! Looking forward to mine in a week to two when they're done!
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@Morgan, maybe you can pass this up to Energica.
How much 'assembly' goes on for the bikes when they get here. Is it enough to count as being 'Assembled in the USA' ?
If so then Energica NEEDS to contact the IRS about it and have them change their bike status to being manufactured IN THE USA.
That means basically, just the final assembly is needed really to count for Assembled in the USA.
Why?
Easy, we can get our 2500 to 3k federal dollars back then when we buy one !! I tried and was told the bike is listed as NOT assembled in the USA and I did not qualify for the tax rebate. This little thing right here might make them eligible.
THIS IS A BIG THING. IF WE CAN LET PEOPLE KNOW THEY GET AN AUTOMATIC 10 PERCENT OFF, THAT'S A BIG SELLING POINT!!
If they (Energica) need help dealing with the IRS, I already done some of the research and already, unfortunately am well versed in dealing with them on 'issues', so if they need help, you got my info, please reach out to me!!
They took my money to fund this shit, at least I want US to be able to get a little of it back!
Aaron
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I don't know what he's talking about. They arrive assembled in crates unless there's something that Italy didn't have and would send later, like carbon fiber fairing parts.
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Morgan, when I did my taxes, I tried to claim my bike, and the IRS clearly has it listed as NOT assembled in the USA. They denied my claim for it. Maybe some paperwork needs to be done, or something but the IRS does not recognize it as being final assembled in the usa.
IRS website, I plugged in my bikes VIN and it came back, NOT ELIGIBLE, NOT Assembled in the USA.
Aaron
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They're probably just doing the final checks as it's probably as assembled as it is in the AU video. The cases don't come assembled and the windscreen along with a few other small things I think.
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Morgan, when I did my taxes, I tried to claim my bike, and the IRS clearly has it listed as NOT assembled in the USA. They denied my claim for it. Maybe some paperwork needs to be done, or something but the IRS does not recognize it as being final assembled in the usa.
IRS website, I plugged in my bikes VIN and it came back, NOT ELIGIBLE, NOT Assembled in the USA.
Aaron
Uh, I thought the federal incentive for motorcycles expired effective Jan 2022. The new law only includes federal incentives for cars, trucks, and SUVs. I don't think it matters if the bike is assembled in the USA or not there is no federal tax break for electric motorcycles.
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It was extended, renewed for 2023, read the laws again. Biden's law, enabled it, they have not approved it yet, BUT, the old law, which did expire, DID get extended until this one goes into affect. Motorcycles ARE included, they fall under the baliwick of vehicles. In fact you can go right to the IRS website explaining this benefit, and see if your vehicle is eligible by putting your VIN in and it will flat out tell you, YOU are eligible for XX dollars back at most.
See there are other aspects of the laws as well, in that each manufacturer is only allowed like a few million dollars in rebates to be charged to their vehicles and other things, so putting it onto the website is also looking to see if there is any money left, on your Tesla Model GFY, as an example. By putting your VIN in, it checks to see if there is any money left for you, and how much, IF you qualify. One of the DIS qualifiers was that, the vehicle had to have assembly / FINAL assembly in the USA to qualify.
Technically, if they put the Ribelle together in a warehouse in California, that would qualify for FINAL assembly in the USA. When Energica first started selling in the USA, did they do that? When they applied for their US permit, HOW did they explain it to them, what / how the bikes were built? Did they put them together here, or did they essentially full build them in Italy and just crate them over here for an arrival inspection? If that is the case, then they may need to amend their paperwork they filed, so the IRS knows that YES, they ARE final assembled here in the US, so they can change their charts and include them in the money available category.
Aaron
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I think if I read it correctly the vehicle needs to have at least 4 wheels .... no?
From:
https://www.irs.gov/pub/taxpros/fs-2023-08.pdf
Q1. What is a new clean vehicle for purposes of the new clean vehicle credit? (updated February 3, 2023)
A1. For purposes of the new clean vehicle credit, a new clean vehicle is a clean vehicle placed in service on or after January 1, 2023,
that is acquired by a taxpayer for original use. In addition, to qualify for the credit, the vehicle:
• Cannot be acquired for resale;
• Must be manufactured by a qualified manufacturer;
• Must meet the definition of a motor vehicle under Title II of the Clean Air Act (that is, any vehicle manufactured primarily
for use on public streets, roads, and highways. It must also have at least four wheels);
• Must have a gross vehicle weight rating of less than 14,000 pounds;
• Must be powered to a significant extent by an electric motor with a battery capacity of 7 kilowatt hours or more and must
be capable of being recharged from an external source of electricity; and
• Must have final assembly in North America.
Moreover, for a taxpayer to claim the credit, the seller of a new clean vehicle must provide a report containing taxpayer and vehicle
information to the taxpayer and to the IRS. See Topic B FAQs 7-9 for additional detail.
Fuel cell vehicles are also new clean vehicles if (1) the original use begins with the taxpayer, (2) the final assembly is in North America,
and (3) the seller of the vehicle provides a report to the taxpayer and the IRS.
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For the NEW law, ahh, yah it does look that way, they don't have the Energica listed. BUT, I think if they do the paperwork, and since the thing is assembled in Caly for the final part, it should qualify for being built in the US.
I am not sure what all has to be done on the manu's side to get added to the list of approved vehicles. I'll ask my accountant to look into that, but honestly think Energica CAN get qualified for that. Even if it's only the 3750 credit, thats a hell of a lot more than the 2500 dollar cap under the old program for the bike.
The biggest problem is the IRS just totally FKN sucks donkey balls. You literally can not get anyone on the phone it will flat out tell you, we are too busy to answer phones, try another time and hang up on you. I will see what I can find out as to what it takes to get on their list. Id really like to get some cash back on my bike!
Aaron
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https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/electric-vehicles-for-tax-credit#/tab-2022
it has a place for you to put your vin in and it tells you if the vehicle qualifies or not,
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When they (the federal government) are talking about final assembly they aren't referring to where the windscreen, mirrors and luggage are attached.
the "final assembly" location is where all the supply chains converge. The cells, the pack, the fairings, the bolts, the wheels, tires, bearings and frame parts. It's which country gets to put that product's sales numbers on their count sheet for GDP. Energicas definitely have final assembly in Italy.
It's a much bigger hurdle than the semantics would indicate. There are corporate incentives for having final assembly in the US. That's why Subaru, BMW, and other foreign manufacturers have production facilities in the US. All overseas marques have bikes that arrive in crates to be put together when they get to the dealer. if that was considered "final Assembly" the big four would be all over it.
Plus, Zero and Livewire don't qualify for the tax credit...they do have final assembly in the US.
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Pro Italia. My Experia is in CA, getting final inspection/assembly/etc. It should be getting shipped to me very soon. So close :) Have you heard anything?
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From what dealer? I hope they shipped more than 3! I'm definitely getting one of those.
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Pro Italia. My Experia is in CA, getting final inspection/assembly/etc. It should be getting shipped to me very soon. So close :) Have you heard anything?
From what dealer? I hope they shipped more than 3! I'm definitely getting one of those.
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Picking mine up on Tuesday after work, I can't wait!! I've got VIN 40!
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Picking mine up on Tuesday after work, I can't wait!! I've got VIN 40!
VIN #40..!!?? Or is it #140..?? I believe they're up into the mid 100's now....Mine is #029 and I got mine back in mid February. There was a chap on the bookface group who had not long ago taken delivery of VIN #120.
Smithy.
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My LE vin is number 82. Shipping to WI from CA this week.
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Pro Italia. My Experia is in CA, getting final inspection/assembly/etc. It should be getting shipped to me very soon. So close :) Have you heard anything?
From what dealer? I hope they shipped more than 3! I'm definitely getting one of those.
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Picking mine up on Tuesday after work, I can't wait!! I've got VIN 40!
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From pro italia or another dealer?
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Picking mine up on Tuesday after work, I can't wait!! I've got VIN 40!
VIN #40..!!?? Or is it #140..?? I believe they're up into the mid 100's now....Mine is #029 and I got mine back in mid February. There was a chap on the bookface group who had not long ago taken delivery of VIN #120.
Smithy.
I'll look at the bike tomorrow to check, if it isn't 040 then the DMV has the wrong number.
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Pro Italia. My Experia is in CA, getting final inspection/assembly/etc. It should be getting shipped to me very soon. So close :) Have you heard anything?
From what dealer? I hope they shipped more than 3! I'm definitely getting one of those.
Picking mine up on Tuesday after work, I can't wait!! I've got VIN 40!
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Since I wanted it sooner than later, I paid at Calmoto and arranged to pick it up at their service center in SSF.
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Im pretty sure that is the proper VIN for your bike. The dealer should have looked when he gave you the title what the VIN was! Well unless it was the Florida one then who knows...
The bikes are not always going to arrive in sequential number. Arrival /Customs in Commiefornia may take 3 months just to get it into the dock. In Florida, a week or so then another week to ship it to ComFo for the final assembly. Yours could have been shipped and they were waiting for centerstands, as an example of a part, and the finishing thing just NOW got in, but others shipped later, had all their stuff, so went out sooner. 1001 things than would doink up a FIFO.
Aaron
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BTW, the Bay Area news is reporting that the port of Oakland, CA, is having work disruptions again as the workers have been without a contract for the past year and are unhappy about the situation. So Energica's idea of switching their U.S. off-loading port to the East Coast continues to look like a smart move.
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We don't really like to use the term, "Commiefornia." We prefer to use, "the Left Coast." ;D
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BTW, the Bay Area news is reporting that the port of Oakland, CA, is having work disruptions again as the workers have been without a contract for the past year and are unhappy about the situation. So Energica's idea of switching their U.S. off-loading port to the East Coast continues to look like a smart move.
If they were really smart, they'd move their manufacturing / final assembly to Florida as well. A lot cheaper to live, a LOT more friendlier to business', several ports literally within a few hours of each other. They could move to Jacksonville, run out of JaxPort, and have a Depot level shop here too. That'd also give me a local shop to do my Energica business with too! Plenty of warehouses going up ALL over (which honestly I am not too happy about but it is what it is). With the economy going in the shitter, I am betting they could get a nice deal on the rent too among other enticements from Local / State entities as well.
Set up a few acres of solar panels, and run the electric bike and its shop on solar. Yes yes I know but the PR would look real snazzy !!
TBH it's another of my nerd projects but I have a few rows of panels sitting on my driveway I plug the bike into to charge off of....just to say it's 100 percent sun powered and to say that yep I did it ! :D
Aaron