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Title: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: togo on December 13, 2022, 05:55:35 AM
In a discussion about cruise control buttons, Hans2183 said:

> Sorry I'm not a cruise control user 😂. At least not without radar. And yes I realise BMW has that on the RT and K1600. But those aren't electric.

It seems unfair that some of the fossil motorcycles have 10" screens and adaptive cruise control but not any of our electric ones.

Title: Re: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: jotjotde on December 13, 2022, 01:11:07 PM
I see this as a matter of target group marketing. From my experience (Germany) most owners are using the bike mostly for fun on weekends, for them certain features are unneccessary and would only increase the bike's weight.
Radar-assisted cruise/distance controls (RCDS) I see as something for longer-distance highway commuting or travelling.
At the time being, the available electric bikes are not really good for this due to the limitation in battery capacity (charge stop approximately every 120 km). So I do not see a reason to attach a RCDS to a Zero or Energica. Besides, it would probably look s**t.
Title: Re: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: jotjotde on December 15, 2022, 05:23:04 PM
To avoid any misdunderstanding, I referred to adaptive (radar) CC only as having too much weight, looking crappy on a bike and making no sense when you don't spend much time on highways.

I use the CC on my bike (Energica Ribelle) quite often but would wish for better positioning of the buttons.
Title: Re: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: MikeL on December 16, 2022, 08:08:09 AM
To avoid any misdunderstanding, I referred to adaptive (radar) CC only as having too much weight, looking crappy on a bike and making no sense when you don't spend much time on highways.

I use the CC on my bike (Energica Ribelle) quite often but would wish for better positioning of the buttons.

Does radar add that much weight? A few brands use it Ducati, KTM, and BMW. It seems small enough. Unless some heavy components are hidden?
Title: Re: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: EsseEsse on December 16, 2022, 10:12:07 AM
I use the CC on my bike (Energica Ribelle) quite often but would wish for better positioning of the buttons.
LOL! I read the first half of this sentence and was thinking, "that guy has crazy long thumbs!"
Title: Re: Adaptive Cruise Control and 10" screens
Post by: jotjotde on December 16, 2022, 03:15:44 PM
I use the CC on my bike (Energica Ribelle) quite often but would wish for better positioning of the buttons.
LOL! I read the first half of this sentence and was thinking, "that guy has crazy long thumbs!"
;D ;D ;D
In fact I have unusually long thumbs, that's why I have to wear XL size gloves instead of L. That helps with the buttons, but it' still a pain in the a**.

I am thinking about to switch the wires of both buttons, then the engage button (now the lower button) is on top and at least a few millimeters nearer.
Or alternatively to install dedicated new switches on the left hand. Hans2183 manufactured an excellent specimen on this 3D printer for his EsseEsse. If you are interested look here: https://fotoleer.wordpress.com/2022/09/06/energica-cruise-control-button-relocation/
For Zero, someone have invented a simple but genius device. Look here: https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=10235.0