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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: DonTom on September 04, 2022, 11:53:26 PM
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When I ordered my Energica Experia on June 1, the first day possible, I was told I should receive my bike in September. IIRC, they said perhaps the first week of September.
When should I really expect to have it?
Any guesses?
-Don- Reno, NV
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It's my understanding that the initial plan was to have bikes on the water before the August shutdown, when the entire country of Italy goes on vacation. Unfortunately that did not happen. So, as it is August now the plant is back online and then hopefully this means the initial shipment goes out very shortly. Then it needs at least 30 days on the water. Bikes used to go into the port of Oakland but that's so hopelessly backed up they go to Miami now and then get shipped to South SF so the service techs can go through their inspection checklist. Then from there they go out to dealers.
So, if your bike is on the first shipment? I'd have fingers crossed for late October.
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It's my understanding that the initial plan was to have bikes on the water before the August shutdown, when the entire country of Italy goes on vacation. Unfortunately that did not happen. So, as it is August now the plant is back online and then hopefully this means the initial shipment goes out very shortly. Then it needs at least 30 days on the water. Bikes used to go into the port of Oakland but that's so hopelessly backed up they go to Miami now and then get shipped to South SF so the service techs can go through their inspection checklist. Then from there they go out to dealers.
So, if your bike is on the first shipment? I'd have fingers crossed for late October.
That will be just in time for winter, when I mainly ride my gas bikes. I was wondering why they didn't put more effort into getting the bikes out by August. Did something go wrong?
I think I heard the dealers will first get their demo Experias before any go to customers. And that has not yet happened.
Yeah, I assume I will be on the first shipment as I was probably the very first person to order the Experia in the USA. As soon as it was possible on June 1.
Thankis for the info.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Too bad you can't get better status, being built, on ship, ready for customer, approx. delivery date etc.
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Too bad you can't get better status, being built, on ship, ready for customer, approx. delivery date etc.
What the factory needs to do is to install a tracker on each bike so that its location can be followed by the customer. ;)
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OP, Have you tried reaching out directly to Energica here in the US? When I was waiting for my Ribelle I was in weekly email communication with both Laurence and then Tom at Energica.
You could try this mktg-usa@energicamotor.com
Simon
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Just a heads up Laurence flew out to Italy for Energica week which is starting today.
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Just a heads up Laurence flew out to Italy for Energica week which is starting today.
Does that affect anything, such as when the bikes ship out?
-Don- Reno, NV
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Just a heads up Laurence flew out to Italy for Energica week which is starting today.
Does that affect anything, such as when the bikes ship out?
-Don- Reno, NV
I think it was a heads up just in case you try to reach out to him - I doubt it will have any impact on shipping lead times. He's probably super busy + time change during this week since it's a big event.
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Too bad you can't get better status, being built, on ship, ready for customer, approx. delivery date etc.
Yeah, I would expect at least an email or phone call with update info.
I have not heard a word officially. I hope Energica isn't getting like Zero with the lack of customer support and info!
-Don- Reno, NV
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Too bad you can't get better status, being built, on ship, ready for customer, approx. delivery date etc.
Yeah, I would expect at least an email or phone call with update info.
I have not heard a word officially. I hope Energica isn't getting like Zero with the lack of customer support and info!
-Don- Reno, NV
I agree and I do think it would be cool if they had a customer portal which shows your motorcycles status.
- Motorcycle Configured
- Deposit Received
- Queued for Assembly
- In Assembly
- Final Assembly/Factory QC
- Ready for Shipping
- In Transit
- Final QC
- In Route to Dealer
I am a little bummed by the communication. I know we haven't waited nearly as long as some have, but it's been around ~3 months and no new info, and that's after you put down $3k. Not a small amount.
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I am a little bummed by the communication. I know we haven't waited nearly as long as some have, but it's been around ~3 months and no new info, and that's after you put down $3k. Not a small amount.
$3K..?? Pppfffffttt...here in Australia we have to drop a 20% deposit...which equates to $10K AUD..!
Smithy.
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$3K..?? Pppfffffttt...here in Australia we have to drop a 20% deposit...which equates to $10K AUD..!
Smithy.
Is that for a down payment or for the order to show you're serious about buying?
Here, the 10% is just to get it ordered and is part of the total payment. Has nothing to do with a down payment, such as on a loan.
AFAIK, down payments here in the USA are also usually 20%. On just about anything where there is a loan involved, even when buying a house. But there are sometimes exceptions, but the 20% is the expected norm.
I am paying cash for my Experia, so no loan involved.
Did you place an order and need to pay 20% instead of 10%?
-Don- Reno, NV
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$3K..?? Pppfffffttt...here in Australia we have to drop a 20% deposit...which equates to $10K AUD..!
Smithy.
Yikes, is that just what the dealerships charge or is that an Energica determined price?
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OP, Have you tried reaching out directly to Energica here in the US? When I was waiting for my Ribelle I was in weekly email communication with both Laurence and then Tom at Energica.
You could try this mktg-usa@energicamotor.com
Simon
No, I didn't. But IMAO, they should try to contact the buyers, we shouldn't have to try to contact them.
I had no reason to NOT expect my bike this month, until I started this thread.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Yikes, is that just what the dealerships charge or is that an Energica determined price?
My 3K$ went to A&S Cycles (https://www.aspowersports.com/) in Rosevile, CA, a new Energica dealer. They have been in business with other brands for many years. Check was made out to them. I have no idea what happens from there.
-Don- Reno, NV
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The 3k deposit is fully refundable, so keep that in mind. Also, if you change your mind and want a different bike you can just apply it to the different bike instead.
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My 3K$ went to A&S Cycles (https://www.aspowersports.com/) in Rosevile, CA, a new Energica dealer. They have been in business with other brands for many years. Check was made out to them. I have no idea what happens from there.
-Don- Reno, NV
Oh I meant the $10k AUS, I have the $3k deposit on mine as well.
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The 3k deposit is fully refundable, so keep that in mind. Also, if you change your mind and want a different bike you can just apply it to the different bike instead.
Yeah, I'm not super concerned or anything for mine. I've just always been one of those who likes lots of communication for stuff like this - but they probably don't have much news anyway even if they were to contact.
Last I heard for the U.S. was dealer demo bikes first, maybe some customer bikes in that shipment. Customer bikes to follow dealer demos.
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My 3K$ went to A&S Cycles (https://www.aspowersports.com/) in Rosevile, CA, a new Energica dealer. They have been in business with other brands for many years. Check was made out to them. I have no idea what happens from there.
-Don- Reno, NV
Oh I meant the $10k AUS, I have the $3k deposit on mine as well.
I understand the 20% or $10k AUD is to get the ball rolling...getting a bike alocated for build etc.. This is part of the total price...full/final payment is required after build and before shipment from the factory I believe....I stand corrected though as I'm not exactly sure how it all works. :-\
Smithy.
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"full/final payment is required after build and before shipment from the factory I believe.."
I wouldn't expect the final payment to be due until the local dealer has the bike.
-Don- Reno, NV
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"full/final payment is required after build and before shipment from the factory I believe.."
I wouldn't expect the final payment to be due until the local dealer has the bike.
-Don- Reno, NV
Interesting Sir, maybe different for you guys in the US...but my "sales invoice" specifically says...."20% deposit required to reserve build spot in Energia factory. Remaining 80% payment due on completion of bike before it departs the factory".
Smithy.
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All of the Zeros that I bought were special-ordered from the factory and built to my order. As an example, my 2018 was ordered with a Power Tank that was installed by the factory and not at the dealer's shop after purchase. In all cases I paid a $500 deposit to my local dealer when I signed the paperwork.
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Interesting Sir, maybe different for you guys in the US...but my "sales invoice" specifically says...."20% deposit required to reserve build spot in Energia factory. Remaining 80% payment due on completion of bike before it departs the factory".
Smithy.
That seems strange to me because in your case, you cannot even look at the bike before you buy it. I was told my 3K$ had no risk involved. I can change my mine and get my 3K$ back. I assume that is after I see the bike.
But I am not sure about anything. If I do have to pay the rest before it ships, I will do such and take my chances anyway. I am fairly sure I will like the Experica. IMO, about the only thing they could improve is to squeeze a 6 KW AC charger in there for the countless places that have no CCS.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Today, I went down to A&S cycles in Roseville, CA and BSed with Randy, the owner.
He has heard nothing at all from Energica, so I know more about the delays than he does.
He has the 2023 demo models of the Esse Esse 9, Rebille, and Ego there.
They all have the 21.5 KWH battery and the Esse Esse 9 did NOT have a "plus". It looks like the smaller battery is discontinued for the 2023 models, but we were not sure.
Randy mentioned that most motorcycle harnesses come from Ukraine. We wondered if that is causing a delay for the Experia.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Today, I went down to A&S cycles in Roseville, CA and BSed with Randy, the owner.
He has heard nothing at all from Energica, so I know more about the delays than he does.
He has the 2023 demo models of the Esse Esse 9, Rebille, and Ego there.
They all have the 21.5 KWH battery and the Esse Esse 9 did NOT have a "plus". It looks like the smaller battery is discontinued for the 2023 models, but we were not sure.
Randy mentioned that most motorcycle harnesses come from Ukraine. We wondered if that is causing a delay for the Experia.
-Don- Auburn, CA
There were reports earlier this year that BMW was having their wiring harnesses sourced from Ukraine. That source apparently dried up quickly right after the invasion of Ukraine, which caused the factory to shut down for a month or two until they could find an alternate supplier, which apparently they have done as the factory is up and running again, although at a much lower output than in the past, with a limited number of models being produced. Of course this could be the result of supply chain issues, lack of power for industry due to the war, a lower sales forecast by BMW due to the declining world economy, or a combination of all of the above. ???
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There were reports earlier this year that BMW was having their wiring harnesses sourced from Ukraine. That source apparently dried up quickly right after the invasion of Ukraine, which caused the factory to shut down for a month or two until they could find an alternate supplier, which apparently they have done as the factory is up and running again, although at a much lower output than in the past, with a limited number of models being produced. Of course this could be the result of supply chain issues, lack of power for industry due to the war, a lower sales forecast by BMW due to the declining world economy, or a combination of all of the above. ???
Perhaps I will get my Experia by Springtime. I think I have enough bikes to ride until then.
I would not be riding in this smoke (https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2022/09/15/reno-sparks-air-quality-mosquito-fire-smoke-nevada-california/10391831002/?utm_source=rgj-DailyBriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero&utm_content=PREN-1011GJ-E-NLETTER65) anyway. Here in Auburn, it is not much better. AQI=100=unhealthy today. But Reno has been worse every day, even though I am closer to the fire here.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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There were reports earlier this year that BMW was having their wiring harnesses sourced from Ukraine. That source apparently dried up quickly right after the invasion of Ukraine, which caused the factory to shut down for a month or two until they could find an alternate supplier, which apparently they have done as the factory is up and running again, although at a much lower output than in the past, with a limited number of models being produced. Of course this could be the result of supply chain issues, lack of power for industry due to the war, a lower sales forecast by BMW due to the declining world economy, or a combination of all of the above. ???
Perhaps I will get my Experia by Springtime. I think I have enough bikes to ride until then.
I would not be riding in this smoke (https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2022/09/15/reno-sparks-air-quality-mosquito-fire-smoke-nevada-california/10391831002/?utm_source=rgj-DailyBriefing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=hero&utm_content=PREN-1011GJ-E-NLETTER65) anyway. Here in Auburn, it is not much better. AQI=100=unhealthy today. But Reno has been worse every day, even though I am closer to the fire here.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Hopefully the rain storm that is predicted to arrive on Sunday will help a bit with the smoke and AIQ. At least you don't have to worry about smoke particles getting into, and possibly past, your air filter. Just keep wearing that covid mask when spending much time outside.
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Hopefully the rain storm that is predicted to arrive on Sunday will help a bit with the smoke and AIQ. At least you don't have to worry about smoke particles getting into, and possibly past, your air filter. Just keep wearing that covid mask when spending much time outside.
Today's AQI has mostly been in the "excellent" range. Was AQI 16 the last time I checked. But right now, it is at 31=fair here in Reno as well as in Auburn.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Hopefully the rain storm that is predicted to arrive on Sunday will help a bit with the smoke and AIQ. At least you don't have to worry about smoke particles getting into, and possibly past, your air filter. Just keep wearing that covid mask when spending much time outside.
Today's AQI has mostly been in the "excellent" range. Was AQI 16 the last time I checked. But right now, it is at 31=fair here in Reno as well as in Auburn.
-Don- Reno, NV
I hear that the recent rain over the Mosquito fire really helped to dampen it down. The fire is now 48% contained. :)
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I hear that the recent rain over the Mosquito fire really helped to dampen it down. The fire is now 48% contained. :)
60% contained right now.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Just heard that the demo bikes are on a boat and that includes some customer bikes. Since they couldn't get the demo bikes out quick enough they are just shipping them with customer bikes as well. ~45 days in transit most likely. Hoping they are here by late October, but most likely early-mid November.
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Just heard that the demo bikes are on a boat and that includes some customer bikes. Since they couldn't get the demo bikes out quick enough they are just shipping them with customer bikes as well. ~45 days in transit most likely. Hoping they are here by late October, but most likely early-mid November.
Thanks for the info!
But how do you get such info? My local Energica dealer has not heard a thing.
I wonder how many bikes are on a boatload.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Thanks for the info!
But how do you get such info? My local Energica dealer has not heard a thing.
I wonder how many bikes are on a boatload.
-Don- Reno, NV
My dealer gave me a call with an update. Guess they had just talked to Energica. I'm sure your dealer will be getting the same info shortly if they are notifying dealers.
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I just spoke to dealer in Wisconsin, says he received a 2023 Ribelle Demo 2 weeks ago and is expecting a Experia Demo any day now.
Maybe we are getting close.
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I just spoke to dealer in Wisconsin, says he received a 2023 Ribelle Demo 2 weeks ago and is expecting a Experia Demo any day now.
Maybe we are getting close.
But where i that Experia located right now? Are there any in the USA yet?
Anyway, I figure I will get mine in time for the snow in this area. ;)
At this point, I am in no hurry. But I was told I would get mine in September. They have four hours left! :)
-Don- Reno, NV
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I just heard from Tom Huff, Mine won't be here till Dec/Jan time frame, Ordered Ribelle RS back in June.
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I just heard from Tom Huff, Mine won't be here till Dec/Jan time frame, Ordered Ribelle RS back in June.
I wonder what the delay is--again. I was told I should get my Experia in early September and have not received any info. since the day I ordered (June 1). Neither has my local dealer received any info.
I would expect better from Energica than keeping us in the dark for so long.
If they shouldn't be here until Dec/Jan, that means they have not yet even been shipped out. So expect even more delays possible.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Quote from Energica
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Quote from Energica
Their excuse for not having the bikes ready is legitimate. But them not informing us before September isn't great customer service.
I hear most motorcycle harnesses are made in Ukraine, especially for European bikes. I can understand how that can cause a major issue.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Well that's a bummer.
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Well that's a bummer.
Yep, but I am a bit confused now by your message number 31 here. Are some customer bikes already on the water? And if so, any Experias?
-Don- Reno, NV
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Yep, but I am a bit confused now by your message number 31 here. Are some customer bikes already on the water? And if so, any Experias?
-Don- Reno, NV
Yup, has me confused as well - I reached out to ask about it. I will let you know what I hear back.
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Yup, has me confused as well - I reached out to ask about it. I will let you know what I hear back.
I hope your dealer knows more about it than mine. My dealer is being kept in the dark as much as I am.
I hope you hear something soon.
I assume both can be true, that they have some bikes being shipped out, but they cannot build any more for now. Since I ordered on the first minute possible, I would think mine would be in the first batch. Obviously, they have several Experias built, we just have no clue how many compared to the demand.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Yup, has me confused as well - I reached out to ask about it. I will let you know what I hear back.
I assume you have not yet heard anything.
I am now expecting another delay even when Dec/Jan comes. It's obvious now that their guesses are no better than ours. It's not only Enegica that is having such problems. I hear Honda and many other brands where some models had to be ordered are now having these same issues.
I don't blame anybody other than somebody should have told us all officially about the issue, even if they cannot give a date. I would rather hear they have no idea other than them giving us a BS date. Hearing they have no idea is honest and that I can accept a lot better than their guesses.
-Don- Reno, NV
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I assume you have not yet heard anything.
I am now expecting another delay even when Dec/Jan comes. It's obvious now that their guesses are no better than ours. It's not only Enegica that is having such problems. I hear Honda and many other brands where some models had to be ordered are now having these same issues.
I don't blame anybody other than somebody should have told us all officially about the issue, even if they cannot give a date. I would rather hear they have no idea other than them giving us a BS date. Hearing they have no idea is honest and that I can accept a lot better than their guesses.
-Don- Reno, NV
Nope, haven't heard anything yet. Hoping we just all get pleasantly surprised by some bikes showing up early. At the very least I'm sure demos will be arriving soon and we can test ride.
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Nope, haven't heard anything yet. Hoping we just all get pleasantly surprised by some bikes showing up early. At the very least I'm sure demos will be arriving soon and we can test ride.
Yeah, it will be nice just to be able to look at an Experia.
I thought the HD Livewire looked much better in reality than any of the countless photos I saw. I wonder if the Experia will seem different to me also.
I assume there are none at all in the USA so far. I wonder if anybody has been able to buy them in Europe yet.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Yeah, it will be nice just to be able to look at an Experia.
-Don- Reno, NV
Same sentiments here...I'm in the same boat as you....although I didn't place my order as early as you did....it would indeed be nice to see one in person before ours actually get delivered.....I'm assuming some time in the 1st 1/4 of next year.. :-\
Smithy.
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None of the press bikes had a center-stand, true?
The marketing lit showed it but didn't look real, IMO.
Not a betting person either...was scratching head to understand how this will be implemented...could explain the delay?
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None of the press bikes had a center-stand, true?
The marketing lit showed it but didn't look real, IMO.
Not a betting person either...was scratching head to understand how this will be implemented...could explain the delay?
The "Aussie" website shows the Experia with a centre stand...as do most other interweb pictures I've looked at... My invoice says the "Launch Edition" has one too.
https://australianelectricmotorco.com/motorcycles/energica-experia/#:~:text=A%20New%20Way%20To%20Explore,246km%20in%20long-distance%20riding.
Forward mount of the centre stand appears to be through a mounting "boss" on the bottom of the motor casting..
Smithy.
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Forward mount of the centre stand appears to be through a mounting "boss" on the bottom of the motor casting..
Thank you for clearing that up.
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The situation in Europe seems similar. I can only speak for Germany, where at least one of the bikes of the May press release and Dolomite press tour has been passed from dealer to dealer to grant demo rides to customers. I was lucky to get my hands on one of those and posted my subjective view here (https://www-elektroroller--forum-de.translate.goog/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=32064&sid=06cac5280ac7477f22d0fc9abeee9246&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp).
I did this in German, above link is the Google translated script. However, you migh be interested in some of the pictures…
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It's November!
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And next is December. I can’t find anything saying they have shipped any bikes yet. I don’t expect any bikes in the states this year at this point. Sure hope they ship soon because the waiting is killing me.
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And next is December. I can’t find anything saying they have shipped any bikes yet. I don’t expect any bikes in the states this year at this point. Sure hope they ship soon because the waiting is killing me.
Well, I guess we will have them by springtime. It's been raining a lot here lately anyway. What bugs me more than not getting the bike is how we hear nothing at all.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Well, I guess we will have them by springtime. It's been raining a lot here lately anyway. What bugs me more than not getting the bike is how we hear nothing at all.
-Don- Auburn, CA
I agree. Not a great customer experience when you hear nothing.
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„ […] production is back on track with most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022.“
Source. (https://australianelectricmotorco.com/energica-experia-launch-and-factory-tour/)
Looking to be. Let‘s see. At least this give a bit hope.
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„ […] production is back on track with most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022.“
Source.
Looking to be. Let‘s see. At least this give a bit hope.
"And thankfully, production is back on track with most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022."
They changed one word with around five words. They replaced "September" with the words " by the end of 2022".
And does that mean to the customer or when they ship them out?
But when I get mine isn't my big complaint. It's how we have all been ignored and have to search for such info ourselves.
IMO, it would have been smarter for Energica to say the Experia will not be delivered for at least a year, and then we can all be happy when we receive them in only 11 months. And then nobody would complain about hearing nothing at all.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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„ […] production is back on track with most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022.“
Source.
Looking to be. Let‘s see. At least this give a bit hope.
"And thankfully, production is back on track with most current orders looking to be fulfilled by the end of 2022."
They changed one word with around five words. They replaced "September" with the words " by the end of 2022".
And does that mean to the customer or when they ship them out?
But when I get mine isn't my big complaint. It's how we have all been ignored and have to search for such info ourselves.
IMO, it would have been smarter for Energica to say the Experia will not be delivered for at least a year, and then we can all be happy when we receive them in only 11 months. And then nobody would complain about hearing nothing at all.
-Don- Auburn, CA
"I can't fathom why or how anyone could possibly suspect that any of my PCs are compromised. I am the only one out of several thousand users of this forum who repeatedly posts in obscure fonts, sizes, or colors. It is all a wild coincidence. I refuse to do any sort of PC maintenance and instead will blame it on forum profiles which aren't a thing and accusations of such will make any IT person's nose start to bleed."
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"I can't fathom why or how anyone could possibly suspect that any of my PCs are compromised. I am the only one out of several thousand users of this forum who repeatedly posts in obscure fonts, sizes, or colors. It is all a wild coincidence. I refuse to do any sort of PC maintenance and instead will blame it on forum profiles which aren't a thing and accusations of such will make any IT person's nose start to bleed."
It's a mystery why I have to change the font to get rid of the garbage almost every time I post a link or copy a line from another and such stuff. And why it only happens here, nowhere else at all and on any computer that I use. And sometimes even changing things here won't fix the issue and I have to post the garbage too, as you have seen a few times.
How can it be my computer? Which one? I use MANY different computers and the same happens with every one of them, including my computers in Reno. But this forum only. It's this flakey forum software. Perhaps it won't do it if I close my account and start up a new one, but that is about all that is possible to try at this end.
It won't happen this time because I posted no links and didn't copy anything here into this message.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Here is a Facebook post with the first Experia to arrive in the US.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228849689405329&set=gm.1304074783723290&idorvanity=210803326383780 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228849689405329&set=gm.1304074783723290&idorvanity=210803326383780)
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Here is a Facebook post with the first Experia to arrive in the US.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228849689405329&set=gm.1304074783723290&idorvanity=210803326383780 (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10228849689405329&set=gm.1304074783723290&idorvanity=210803326383780)
Probably one of the many Demo bikes that shipped awhile ago - hopefully they start showing up at dealers so we can at least test ride before we take final delivery.
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Probably one of the many Demo bikes that shipped awhile ago - hopefully they start showing up at dealers so we can at least test ride before we take final delivery.
Or could it be mine???
Pacifica is getting very close to A&S cycles in Roseville.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Or could it be mine???
Pacifica is getting very close to A&S cycles in Roseville.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Maybe, but I doubt they would ride a customers bike that distance. I wouldn't be too stoked if I bought a brand new bikes with like 50miles on it lol. Not a HUGE deal but not cool.
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Maybe, but I doubt they would ride a customers bike that distance. I wouldn't be too stoked if I bought a brand new bikes with like 50miles on it lol. Not a HUGE deal but not cool.
I purchased my 2022 Class A motorhome NEW in September of 2021. It had more than 3,000 miles (~5,000 KM) on it.
But I found out the reason, it's the norm for RVs. The reason it had twice the miles on it from Indiana (where it was put together) to get to Sparks, NV (where purchased) is because they drive them to RV shows trying to sell them. I assume at around 3,000 miles they stop doing such. Nobody wants to buy a new anything with 75,000 miles on it.
But all the new motorcycles I have purchased, IIRC, had less than 100 miles on them. But they still have that 100 miles or so to play with.
I would like to know where the first miles on a new motorcycle come from. Are they test ridden after being first assembled? If so, how far?
I know new cars and motorcycles are normally trucked around, so I would expect a few miles at the most.
But new RVs are normally driven quite a ways before being sold.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Nice to see they sent one over for the factory service technicians to get familiar with before delivery begins. I am not getting my hopes up for delivery before the first of the year but would like to be surprised with a early Christmas present.
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Nice to see they sent one over for the factory service technicians to get familiar with before delivery begins. I am not getting my hopes up for delivery before the first of the year but would like to be surprised with a early Christmas present.
They first said September, they are now saying "sometime in the fall". Fall ends on Dec 21.
But no hurry for me. I normally ride ICE bikes during the winter and electric during the spring and summer.
As long as I have it before springtime starts, I will be happy enough.
-Don-
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Probably one of the many Demo bikes that shipped awhile ago - hopefully they start showing up at dealers so we can at least test ride before we take final delivery.
Or could it be mine???
Pacifica is getting very close to A&S cycles in Roseville.
-Don- Auburn, CA
Is Calmoto still selling Energicas? I haven't seen the brand mentioned on any of the promotional emails that they have sent me this year. Just BMWs and KTMs. ???
Regarding mileage on new motorcycles. The second Electric Motorsport GPR-S that I bought at the end of 2009 had 225 miles on the clock. (Far and away a record for any "new" vehicle that I have ever purchased.) The "manufacturer" registered the bike as a 2010 model and the CEO of the company claimed the miles were due to their extensive testing of the bike. :o
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Is Calmoto still selling Energicas? I haven't seen the brand mentioned on any of the promotional emails that they have sent me this year. Just BMWs and KTMs. ???
Regarding mileage on new motorcycles. The second Electric Motorsport GPR-S that I bought at the end of 2009 had 225 miles on the clock. (Far and away a record for any "new" vehicle that I have ever purchased.) The "manufacturer" registered the bike as a 2010 model and the CEO of the company claimed the miles were due to their extensive testing of the bike. :o
CalMoto Livermore still has 3 Demo Energica's and is still a dealer to my knowledge.
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Is Calmoto still selling Energicas? I haven't seen the brand mentioned on any of the promotional emails that they have sent me this year. Just BMWs and KTMs. ???
Regarding mileage on new motorcycles. The second Electric Motorsport GPR-S that I bought at the end of 2009 had 225 miles on the clock. (Far and away a record for any "new" vehicle that I have ever purchased.) The "manufacturer" registered the bike as a 2010 model and the CEO of the company claimed the miles were due to their extensive testing of the bike. :o
It sure looks like they still sell Energica in the Livermore shop. (https://www.calmoto.com/inventory/v1/Current/Energica-Motor-Company-Inc/) I assume you know the shop in Mt. View no longer exists.
225 miles seems like a lot of testing for a new bike. If true, perhaps there was an issue with it, such as something was intermittent that they really needed to check several times.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Is Calmoto still selling Energicas? I haven't seen the brand mentioned on any of the promotional emails that they have sent me this year. Just BMWs and KTMs. ???
Regarding mileage on new motorcycles. The second Electric Motorsport GPR-S that I bought at the end of 2009 had 225 miles on the clock. (Far and away a record for any "new" vehicle that I have ever purchased.) The "manufacturer" registered the bike as a 2010 model and the CEO of the company claimed the miles were due to their extensive testing of the bike. :o
It sure looks like they still sell Energica in the Livermore shop. (https://www.calmoto.com/inventory/v1/Current/Energica-Motor-Company-Inc/) I assume you know the shop in Mt. View no longer exists.
225 miles seems like a lot of testing for a new bike. If true, perhaps there was an issue with it, such as something was intermittent that they really needed to check several times.
-Don- Auburn, CA
I am pretty sure that it was being used as a demonstrator at Hollywood Electric during the summer of 2009. I saw a photo of their showroom that seemed to have an exact duplicate of my bike on display. I still have piles of emails in my files between me and the company CEO regarding that bike, including discussions at to why it was registered as a 2009 model with a VIN when I bought and paid for it, but hadn't picked it up yet. Before I could get down to the shop to pick it up, it was grabbed back by the company, returned to the factory in Oakland, given a new build date and VIN and re-registered again in January 2010 with another VIN right before I was able to return to the retail dealership and ride it home.