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Makes And Models => Energica => Topic started by: SonOfAnakin on July 11, 2022, 06:20:33 AM
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I heard that 3 containers of new bikes arrived in SF over a month ago and were being prepped for delivery. Mine is one of them. Wondering how many here have taken delivery in the last month, most likely from these three containers.
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How many per container and when did you order the RS?
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I don't know how many are in a container. I ordered in December.
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I know two people in the Sacramento area who took delivery of their Ribelle RS's within the last month, so yours shouldn't be far behind.
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That's good to hear, thanks. I just hope they are moving through them faster than that. ;)
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There were a BUNCH of bikes delivered right before memorial day. The distribution of them got absolutely destroyed due to the Experia launch. I was lucky (and annoying enough) to get them to ship mine out, but they've been sending people back and forth to Italy for training and that's been delaying some shipments. My guess is it will level out here soon.
Also.. main port moving to Florida will DRASTICALLY accelerate shipment deliveries from Italy.
My guess is lead times are going to radically shorten over the next months.
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My son lives in Port St Luce, when the ship docks, I'll have him go get mine.
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I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the fact a European manufacturer would ship product into the United States WEST coast rather than any of the multitude of available ports on the East Coast. That makes absolutely no sense to me at ALL.
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If I remember correctly, only way you can get a freighter to the west coast is via Panama Canel. From Italy
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If I remember correctly, only way you can get a freighter to the west coast is via Panama Canel. From Italy
That's the shortcut. You can also sail around the southern tips of either Africa or South America...
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I got 'The Call' yesterday! Wooohooo!
Nailing down the finances and paperwork now and will be shipping to me shortly. So relieved to get it while there is still time to ride this season.
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Congrats! You're going to love that Ribelle RS. I went from an SR to a 13.4 kWh SS9 and it was a revelation, and your Ribelle will be even more powerful than mine and 50 lbs lighter.
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Hey sonofanakin, After you calm down, can you post a pic of what came with the RS, Cable, cover, stand maybe. Hell the whole bike. Congrats!
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Hey Wade.
Mine came with the bike, owners manual, rear adjustment tool, keys, key fob, and a level 2 charger with a level 1 adapter. Can get pics later today.
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Hey sonofanakin, After you calm down, can you post a pic of what came with the RS, Cable, cover, stand maybe. Hell the whole bike. Congrats!
Will do. I will not have everything at first. Most of the accessories will be shipped directly to me from Italy, rather than coming with the bike. I can post pics when the bike comes of what all came with it. Then I can post pics again later when the rest shows up. I apologize now if the photos are blurry from shaky hands. ;D
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Which Level 2 wall plug comes with RS, Can someone take a pic? Was planning on doing some prewire prior to bikes arrival.
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Pretty sure it just comes with a level 1 EVSE.
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Pretty sure it just comes with a level 1 EVSE.
They gave me an option of a level 1 or level 2. But I think that depends on if you get it direct or through a dealer.
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Which Level 2 wall plug comes with RS, Can someone take a pic? Was planning on doing some prewire prior to bikes arrival.
Ordering from the manufacturer, I did not choose a level 2 charger as I already have one. I don't even recall if it was an option accessory.
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IIRC, your Energica will charge at half the rate of your old SR on a Level2 station, as it is only 3kW, whereas the Zero is 6kW. You'll get considerably faster charging from a CCS station if there's one near you.
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IIRC, your Energica will charge at half the rate of your old SR on a Level2 station, as it is only 3kW, whereas the Zero is 6kW. You'll get considerably faster charging from a CCS station if there's one near you.
Indeed. I expect to use it mostly for cell balancing or overnight charging before a big ride day.
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IIRC, your Energica will charge at half the rate of your old SR on a Level2 station, as it is only 3kW, whereas the Zero is 6kW. You'll get considerably faster charging from a CCS station if there's one near you.
The Energicas are 24KW charging with CCS. Less when battery is hot or near the end of charge, of course. But that makes it double the charge speed of any Zero with charge tank as that is 12KW max.
Yeah, I too wish they could squeeze in a 6 KW AC charger in the Eneguica as there are places where that is all that is available. But I can charge my 2017 Zero SR at 8KW, so that takes care of that issue. I just take a different bike depending on possible charge locations.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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They just gave me the option of a level 1 or 2 charger as well. Was not expecting that. I’ve asked for specs for both as I don’t quite understand what they are providing.
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They just gave me the option of a level 1 or 2 charger as well. Was not expecting that. I’ve asked for specs for both as I don’t quite understand what they are providing.
A "granny cable" for either 120 VAC or 240 VAC. Some do both, but then it's a different plug.
They should do it the Tesla M3 way. One adpaper with a bunch of AC plugs. Then they have to ask no questions. But that will cost more than a phone call. But it also means we have our choice on what AC outlet we want to charge from.
I made my own cables. Very short cords. Take a close look at the outlet here (https://www.plugshare.com/location/94986). Notice I was the ONLY check-in ever there. Click on photo of my Zero SR bike and see the last photo which is of the outlet. I can also use these on my Energica.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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It is a good thing that new Energicas are not being shipped through California terminals anymore. Today independent truckers are blocking the Oakland ship terminal protesting the implementation of California's AB 5 law that will make it illegal to operate as an owner-operator truck driver in the state. Independent truck owner/drivers would either have be hired by an established trucking company or incorporate themselves as their own trucking company. >:(
BTW, this new law even applies to newspaper delivery "boys", which are mostly performed by independent contractors who are not employees of the newspaper - which are most of them.
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California's AB 5 law that will make it illegal to operate as an owner-operator truck driver in the state.
Why did CA believe such a law is needed? The first I heard about it, but I mainly live in NV and I don't watch the news much.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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California's AB 5 law that will make it illegal to operate as an owner-operator truck driver in the state.
Why did CA believe such a law is needed? The first I heard about it, but I mainly live in NV and I don't watch the news much.
-Don- Auburn, CA
My understanding is that it was pushed through the Legislature by various unions, like the Taxi drivers and Teamsters, who were particularly upset about ride-hailing services, as well as independent truckers who were not joining their unions. Uber and other ride-hailing platforms paid millions to get a proposition on the CA ballot to make the law not apply to their companies. The proposition passed and now they are exempt from needing to hire the drivers that pick up passengers as their employees and having to pay for various health, insurance and other benefits. Unfortunately the independent truck owner/drivers (and everyone else in the same situation, such as newspapers) just didn't have the financial resources to file a similar proposition proposal, which is very expensive to obtain the necessary signatures in this state.
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The news about the trucker protest shutting down the Oakland Shipping Terminal hit my newspaper today. Attached is page 1 of the article.
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Here is page 2.
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California's AB 5 law that will make it illegal to operate as an owner-operator truck driver in the state.
Why did CA believe such a law is needed? The first I heard about it, but I mainly live in NV and I don't watch the news much.
-Don- Auburn, CA
I have a lot of friends/family/acquaintances in CA.. Almost all of them have no idea why California does 9/10's of the stuff it does.
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I have a lot of friends/family/acquaintances in CA.. Almost all of them have no idea why California does 9/10's of the stuff it does.
I have a ruff idea--it's so somebody, somewhere can make money, not caring what effect it has on others.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Hello Sonofanakin,
I got my Ribelle RS last month. I am in Sacramento, CA. My local BMW dealer just became an Energica Dealer in Roseville. I got it from them after I ordered it three weeks prior. I have a FB page for "Greater Sac Area Electric Motorcycles".
I hope you get it soon!
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Hello Sonofanakin,
I got my Ribelle RS last month. I am in Sacramento, CA. My local BMW dealer just became an Energica Dealer in Roseville. I got it from them after I ordered it three weeks prior. I have a FB page for "Greater Sac Area Electric Motorcycles".
I hope you get it soon!
I just came from A&S. They now have a demo Energica SS9+ RS.
I am now at Yummy Cafe (https://www.yummycafesacramento.com/)in Sacramento. I already ate and I am ready to head back to Auburn.
BTW, did you know there was a J-plug in walking distance from from A&S (https://www.plugshare.com/location/160462)? I came down here on my Zero SR, perhaps I will use it on the way back. I don't recall it being there the last time I was in that area. I already took a look at it, a 7.2 KW dual plug ChargePoint. I think both plugs can be used at the same time for up to 14.4 KW. I will take a better look at it later on my return trip.
-Don- Sacramento, CA
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I didn’t know about the J plug. I didn’t look
I did know about the EssEss9+Rs. I posted it in our FB group.
I know you don’t go on FB that often though.
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I didn’t know about the J plug. I didn’t look
I did know about the EssEss9+Rs. I posted it in our FB group.
I know you don’t go on FB that often though.
I used it the on the way back home. See here. (https://www.plugshare.com/location/160462) My Zero SR charging at 6.6KW. I could NOT charge at the full 8KW that my bike can accept (external chargers), because it is one of those stupid shared charged stations, 6.6 KW max or 3.3 KW each plug when both are being used.
It cost me $300.00 to charge. I walked up to A&S and purchased a new set of motorcycle boots.
Not counting that:
Station ID:
ROSEVILLE / LOUIS
6.6 kW AC RosevilleCharging duration:
July 20, 2022, 3:49 PM - 4:42 PM
Energy
5.2276 kWh @ $0.30/kWh
3:49:59 PM - 4:42:20 PM 1.57
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Hello Sonofanakin,
I got my Ribelle RS last month. I am in Sacramento, CA. My local BMW dealer just became an Energica Dealer in Roseville. I got it from them after I ordered it three weeks prior. I have a FB page for "Greater Sac Area Electric Motorcycles".
I hope you get it soon!
That's amazing. I'm really happy for you. Mine is still at least 2 weeks away. It's not even on the transport truck yet. :( It's all paid for and insured, but I still haven't seen it. It's only been 7 months, 8 by the time it gets here.
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That's amazing. I'm really happy for you. Mine is still at least 2 weeks away. It's not even on the transport truck yet. :( It's all paid for and insured, but I still haven't seen it. It's only been 7 months, 8 by the time it gets here.
Why is it insured and why did you need to pay the full cost of the bike?
I have my Energica Experia on order since the first day possible. They only wanted 3K$ in advance. And why have it insured before you receive it?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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That's amazing. I'm really happy for you. Mine is still at least 2 weeks away. It's not even on the transport truck yet. :( It's all paid for and insured, but I still haven't seen it. It's only been 7 months, 8 by the time it gets here.
Why is it insured and why did you need to pay the full cost of the bike?
I have my Energica Experia on order since the first day possible. They only wanted 3K$ in advance. And why have it insured before you receive it?
-Don- Auburn, CA
I paid $3k when I ordered in December. Now the bike is ready to ship to me so I got a loan and sent them the check for the rest of the price. Had to get insurance to get the loan. Still no word from Tom on when it will ship, though. Sounds like they have had a lot of orders and and a lot of shipments coming in through Miami. Just wish they would prioritize my order over more recent and get it shipped out. A bit frustrated at this point.
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I paid $3k when I ordered in December. Now the bike is ready to ship to me so I got a loan and sent them the check for the rest of the price. Had to get insurance to get the loan. Still no word from Tom on when it will ship, though. Sounds like they have had a lot of orders and and a lot of shipments coming in through Miami. Just wish they would prioritize my order over more recent and get it shipped out. A bit frustrated at this point.
I can see why. From December? When did they expect you to have the bike? What did they tell you then?
They tell me that I should have my Experia the first week of September. Should I believe that or not?
-Don- Auburn, CA
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DonTom,
Unless your Experia is on a ship right now heading to the US it is unlikely you will see it the first week of September. Right now everything goes into Miami. Once it clears customs in Miami it is still 10-14 days to make it to California. Possibly another week or two getting everything unpacked and then prepped to move out. At least you are on the west coast so that saves some time once the bike is ready to ship.
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DonTom,
Unless your Experia is on a ship right now heading to the US it is unlikely you will see it the first week of September. Right now everything goes into Miami. Once it clears customs in Miami it is still 10-14 days to make it to California. Possibly another week or two getting everything unpacked and then prepped to move out. At least you are on the west coast so that saves some time once the bike is ready to ship.
I don't even know if my bike has been built yet.
-Don- Georgetown, CA (https://www.plugshare.com/location/346912)
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Anything shipping through the West coast's Oakland shipping terminal it is stuck there right now. The independent truckers are still barricading the terminal and nothing is going in or out. So even it an Energica takes 14 days to go overland from Miami to the west coast it still might be faster than if it had to go through Oakland. The truckers are saying that they will be protesting at the port until they get what they want. But there is no indication that the Governor, the legislature or the courts are going to help them with their grievances.
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I can see why. From December? When did they expect you to have the bike? What did they tell you then?
They tell me that I should have my Experia the first week of September. Should I believe that or not?
-Don- Auburn, CA
They told me it would be delivered in April. It left Italy mid February. On May 24 it cleared customs in Oakland and was delivered to the SF office a week later.
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Right now everything goes into Miami. Once it clears customs in Miami it is still 10-14 days to make it to California.
Just wanted to confirm this is 100% correct. West coast ports are so useless right now it's actually faster to unload bikes in Miami, ship them to SF for inspection, and then send them out to dealers/customers.
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MVetter, That is per email from Tom Huff. All of the containers of bikes they are working on now came through Miami.
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Yes. I'm agreeing with you.
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Energica should have a website where you can log in and see where you are at in line, Possible delivery date.
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The Oakland shipping terminal is now open for business again. According to news reports today the independent trucker blockade of the Oakland container shipping terminal is over. (They were also threatening to blockade the LA port, too.) They threw in the towel after the cops showed up and threatened to arrest them and the terminal also threatened to sue them over shutting down the port and costing millions of dollars of lost revenue. To add "insult to injury" Governor Newsom has said he will double-down in enforcing the AB5 law and make sure that all independent contractors in the state either start working for an established (preferably unionized) company or legally create their own trucking business.
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The Oakland shipping terminal is now open for business again.
But is that likely to mean Energica will start shipping bikes to Oakland again any time soon?
Perhaps I am using the wrong word. I once recall hearing the term "shipped" means by ground only and they use a different term for by ship. :)
We live in a country where we park in a driveway but drive in a parkway! :)
-Don- Reno, NV
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Unless Oakland customs starts taking less than the customs/ship time to go through Florida, I think they'll most likely just keep going through the east coast. From my understanding, even without the shipping issues, Oakland customs is still running 8 weeks.
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Unless Oakland customs starts taking less than the customs/ship time to go through Florida, I think they'll most likely just keep going through the east coast. From my understanding, even without the shipping issues, Oakland customs is still running 8 weeks.
Plus, they now have a week-long backup to get through as well as the normal deliveries to catch up. The Port handles nothing but shipping container deliveries, is my understanding. I really doubt that Energica is going to go back to shipping bikes to the West Coast as to me that wouldn't be very logical or efficient, as it is probably faster and cheaper to send the ones going to the west coast via truck from Miami, instead of by way of the Panama Canal.
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I submitted my Eva ribelle order on march 15. Not in a huge hurry since it's not great riding weather here in Phoenix Arizona but I am hoping to get an update soon! Not sure if I'm impacted with the CA shipment stuff or not... But thankfully still have my Eva 107 to hold me over till the new one is here. Appreciate all the info posted so far on this thread.
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ColdSoda.. You should call some folks.. I ordered mine March 30th ish and received on July 1.
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Heard from SonOfAnakin... His Ribelle arrived yesterday! :)
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Hey sonofanakin, After you calm down, can you post a pic of what came with the RS, Cable, cover, stand maybe. Hell the whole bike. Congrats!
It has arrived! It came with a Welcome Kit box with the manuals, warranty cards, the keys, and a tool to adjust the preload on the rear shock.
They also shipped me a portable charger. I chose the 110 volt. I t came from Amazon and was this model: https://smile.amazon.com/MEGEAR-100-240V-Portable-Electric-Charging/dp/B097DX8BZF/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=megear+level+1+ev+charger&qid=1659635538&sprefix=megear%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=ASIYMWBVZG7J0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1hTU0lTMlQySlUyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDkxOTIzMjA2WkQxSDJaWlk0VyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkwMzE0MVZMMkZQQkpXSEdUMyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU= (https://smile.amazon.com/MEGEAR-100-240V-Portable-Electric-Charging/dp/B097DX8BZF/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?keywords=megear+level+1+ev+charger&qid=1659635538&sprefix=megear%2Caps%2C111&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&smid=ASIYMWBVZG7J0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1hTU0lTMlQySlUyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDkxOTIzMjA2WkQxSDJaWlk0VyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzkwMzE0MVZMMkZQQkpXSEdUMyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=)
The stands and the cover haven't arrived yet.
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Congrats! Enjoy.
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I t came from Amazon and was this model:
I looks like that one can be used with 240 VAC also, just by making an adapter.
-Don- Phoenix, OR (RV trip with Zero DS)
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Does everything shut down for month of August? I assume bikes that are in transport and prep for delivery will keep moving. I'd hate to get first bike assembled after a month of vacation, somethings might get overlooked.
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As far as I know the factory is just offline for August. I assume that means they closed down for end of day as usual on July 31, and then will resume like nothing happened on September 1.
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The more I hear about various European labor practices, the more I envy them. ;)
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ColdSoda.. You should call some folks.. I ordered mine March 30th ish and received on July 1.
I asked if I could make the road trip to pick up the new bike in person...and they agreed! I drove from Phoenix to their location in South San Francisco late last week and picked it up last Friday morning. Awesome experience seeing the shop there and bringing the bike home! The whole team there was super welcoming and Chris answered a hundred questions haha.
Only rode to work once since getting back home but so far I'm very impressed with the refinement on the new 23 EvaRS compared to my previous 20 Eva107.