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Title: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Stonewolf on July 07, 2022, 07:48:30 PM
I'm planning a month long tour around Europe in August racking up something like 5000km (3k miles) and with my luggage list mounting I'm eying those bulky AC cables angrily. Has anyone got experience of doing this kind of extended distance on DC charging only? I'll give it a good zero-max balance charge before departure but should I expect charge status weirdness?
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: MVetter on July 07, 2022, 10:01:00 PM
You'll be fine.
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Skidz on July 08, 2022, 05:18:50 PM
I have a 1.5 meter (5 feet) level 2 16amp single-phase charging cable, the only bulky is the connectors. Really small.
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: DonTom on July 08, 2022, 10:58:57 PM
I'm planning a month long tour around Europe in August racking up something like 5000km (3k miles) and with my luggage list mounting I'm eying those bulky AC cables angrily. Has anyone got experience of doing this kind of extended distance on DC charging only? I'll give it a good zero-max balance charge before departure but should I expect charge status weirdness?
If it's anything like the USA, expect around half of the CCS chargers to not work.


-Don- Auburn, CA
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Skidz on July 09, 2022, 10:37:08 PM
Thank (Fill your favorite deity here) Europe's not the barren wasteland the USA is. When it comes to CCS charging, that is.

The occasional charger might not work (Had an Ecotap bork on me today in the black hole they call De Kempen, Belgium), and sometimes CSS is just not available (Northern Luxemburg and the Eiffel, anyone?) but you can plan and be sure 99% of the chargers work. Especially the Netherlands, we looooove CCS here.
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: DonTom on July 09, 2022, 11:19:00 PM
but you can plan and be sure 99% of the chargers work. Especially the Netherlands, we looooove CCS here.
In the state of Nevada, you can plan at least half will not work.


Not so bad here in CA.



-Don- Auburn, CA
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Day Trippin on July 18, 2022, 08:36:26 AM
I'm planning a month long tour around Europe in August racking up something like 5000km (3k miles) and with my luggage list mounting I'm eying those bulky AC cables angrily. Has anyone got experience of doing this kind of extended distance on DC charging only? I'll give it a good zero-max balance charge before departure but should I expect charge status weirdness?

While I don't have an Energica, I do plan to buy one. Based on the battery design, I would limit DC charging to any more than you need. I would take along a smaller L2 charger than to rely so much on DC charging. DC charging is pretty stressful on batteries.
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: MVetter on July 18, 2022, 08:51:44 AM
All charging is, by definition, DC charging. Because the charge rate on these bikes is completely variable, from 0-75 amps, at what rate are you claiming is high stress?
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Stonewolf on July 25, 2022, 06:08:57 PM
DC charging is fine for the battery as long as the rate allows for effective heat management. In this case the main issue is that I can't do a battery balance off CCS.
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: szczur333 on August 18, 2022, 05:15:21 PM
its a solution for bulky AC cable (type2)
you can buy plugs only on aliexpress + cut original handles smaller or make some custom 3print handles (smaller) and as cables you  can use single wires 3x 1x2,5 (maybe 4mm) wires +2x 1mm for PE/PP controlls

that type of cable will be not durable but lightweight and small
Title: Re: Extended period without AC charging
Post by: Stonewolf on August 31, 2022, 05:14:29 PM
I'm back, no issues to report!