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Title: LPR mode
Post by: DonTom on April 01, 2022, 05:43:29 AM
What is the typical SOC when left in LPR?   I have seen it charge to full (100% SOC)  in LPR last time, and now after 24 hours charging in LPR, my SOC is  not going past 36% SOC.


What should I expect in the LPR mode for  SOC?


Same 120 VAC granny cable used both times.


I will now change to a Tesla-Tap and see if that makes a difference, but I don't see why 240 VAC should change anything other than the time it takes.


-Don-  Reno, NV











Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: DonTom on April 01, 2022, 11:09:14 AM
I used my 240 VAC Tesla-Tap and now it charged up to 86% and stayed there, which sounds right. For whatever reason, the LPR mode didn't like my 120 VAC granny cable (it's NOT the cable that came with the bike).


But for a while, I got a BMS error with the Tesla-Tap connected. I forgot the error code, I didn't write it down. I didn't expect it to clear by itself, but it did. Now I have "Status Okay" under "service".


It also said something like "unexpected BMS error-contact Service". But I no longer have that error, so I assume all is now fine.


FWIW, I put on around  150 miles on my Energica yesterday, I AC charged it once (Virginia City)  and also fast DC charged it twice (Silver Springs and Carson City, NV )  with no problems and no error messages.


I got rather poor range yesterday, I assume because it was a bit cold and windy. The battery indicator was green even right after the fast charges, which I usually then have yellow.




-Don-  Reno, NV
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: FlorisXIII on April 06, 2022, 12:34:26 PM
My LPR keeps it spot on at 80%.
- using 240 V granny (Europe!)
- charge current set to 8A
- no SOC limit (LPR will take care of it)
- firmware .041 (LPR behaviour changed somewhat after most recent update)

Now spring has arrived here no more LPR for me 😁
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: DonTom on April 06, 2022, 01:15:26 PM
Now spring has arrived here no more LPR for me 😁
I ride all year. But in Dec & Jan, I was riding in south Florida. 85F/30C down in the Everglades then. And not a lot cooler at night.


And they have charge stations in the Everglades Park.


See me here charging my 2017 DS here at 6.4KW. (https://www.plugshare.com/location/167663)


-Don-  Reno, NV
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: PWM on April 12, 2022, 10:51:38 AM
My LPR keeps it spot on at 80%.
LPR mode was thought to be too aggressive but almost necessary now that a better understanding of the Energica BMS, depth of balance withstand is concerned, based on experimentation conducted last season (passive dissipation) 80-53% SOC storage for ~ 20 weeks was likely not best practice but didn't do harm either, now we know.

New practice is 80% SOC steady state, will definitely use LPR.  The noted characteristic is on recovery from storage the pack will balance fine on first charge whereas it takes several consecutive charge / balance iterations to get back to 100% when LPR was not employed.

Me thinks Energica taps the battery for keep alive asymmetrically which is fine and explains the importance for LPR - these bikes depend on good pack balance particularly if ridden below 40% SOC, duh that explains the yellow indication...no?
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: Hans2183 on May 03, 2022, 08:49:51 PM
Great to see these video's released directly from Energica, this one is about LPR mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7K_-nQLMFo
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: Sklith on May 04, 2022, 12:31:55 AM
My right ear's feeling neglected.
Title: Re: LPR mode
Post by: Hans2183 on May 05, 2022, 11:47:30 AM
My right ear's feeling neglected.

Swap your headphones and listen again :D