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Title: Yamaha's new EV
Post by: Richard230 on January 20, 2022, 08:32:43 PM
Yamaha has finally hit the market with an electric vehicle. But don't pass out from excitement yet.  ::)  https://thepack.news/yamaha-motor-launches-emf-electric-scooter-in-taiwan-with-battery-swapping-technology-from-gogoro/
Title: Re: Yamaha's new EV
Post by: princec on January 20, 2022, 09:09:17 PM
It's nice, but very much aimed at the Asian market. Or really Japan. I don't think swappable batteries will ever be a thing in Europe or the US - it's all about charging here.

Cas :)
Title: Re: Yamaha's new EV
Post by: Richard230 on January 21, 2022, 02:55:27 AM
I was hoping for something a little more dramatic in the way of an electric vehicle from Yamaha.  ???
Title: Re: Yamaha's new EV
Post by: wavelet on January 21, 2022, 09:46:24 PM
This is barely different than the rebadged Gogoro they had 3 years ago; it's still a Gogoro design, and not a yet a product based on the Japanese Big Four's Swappable Batteries Motorcycle Consortium (https://www.rideapart.com/news/339434/big-four-consortium-battery-swap/) announced the same year, or on the additional similar Honda/Yamaha/KTM/Piaggio (http://)  announced a year ago.
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2021/september/swappable-batteries-motorcycle-consortium-officially-created (https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2021/september/swappable-batteries-motorcycle-consortium-officially-created)
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/japanese-bike-makers-agree-mutual-use-swappable-batteries-should-be-standardized-158277.html (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/japanese-bike-makers-agree-mutual-use-swappable-batteries-should-be-standardized-158277.html)

Even the latter only covers L-category 2-wheelers (so up to 4kW motors), and 48V packs -- useful for urban/suburban commuters, to be sure, and lowering their prices by battery standardization, but not useful for full-range/power motorcycles capable of touring, sport-touring, offroad or sport riding -- or even just commuting on highway stretches.
Hand-carried swappable packs of decent size (10kWh minimum) would just be too heavy, and 48V incompatible with automotive DC fast-charging standards.

So basically this is still a nothingburger.