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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: victor6.7y on January 03, 2022, 12:10:49 AM
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See link:
https://prismic-io.s3.amazonaws.com/zero-cms-disco/6d9c5f82-1947-4c3b-b101-664763627a78_OM-FST-MY22.pdf (https://prismic-io.s3.amazonaws.com/zero-cms-disco/6d9c5f82-1947-4c3b-b101-664763627a78_OM-FST-MY22.pdf)
intresting points to me:
- Extended range charing.
- Cypher store overview
- Yellow Key
- Parking Mode operation
- On-board Charing Rating
- Nominal Capacity, Premium SR/R 13.7 kWh - Maximum 15.6 kWh
* estimated powerpack life also chagnes; so looking at this they are really using different or more cells
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Nice Find !!
Also an interesting piece in the troubleshooting section (chapter 7.7) . In the error list are the following errors explained :
error 60 : CCS Converter Fault - CCS DC-DC converter not connected or not functioning.
error 61 : CCS Interface Fault - CCS interface unit not connected or not functioning properly.
error 62 : CCS Communication Fault - CCS communication fault with charging station.
Could that mean that CCS is coming to zero's. It sure looks like it is. And by the explanations it could take the form of a chargetank conversion (additional module install) but instead of a 6kW AC DC converter it would be a xx kW DC-DC converter. Now the big question would be how many kW. The premium would then have a 6kW AC ability as well as the xx kW DC ability as well definitely interested.
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It's been my understanding the CCS requires a minimum 200V battery. Has the battery voltage increased in the 2022 models?
Also, those error code definitions are in my 2020 Owner's Manual, so it doesn't look like something new is coming.
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Following intently on the CCS findings. Even if it was say, 17kw of ccs, estimating based on the max capacity of the new battery pack staying at 1C, that would be pretty darn awesome I'd say! I'd be off the fence and visiting my local dealer...
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It's been my understanding the CCS requires a minimum 200V battery. Has the battery voltage increased in the 2022 models?
Also, those error code definitions are in my 2020 Owner's Manual, so it doesn't look like something new is coming.
You are correct in that CCS requires minimum 200VDC. The text also says "CCS DCDC converter (error)" so to comply with the 200V CCS requirement they apparently want to use a DCDC converter that steps down the 200V (or higher) from the Charger to the "around" 100 Volt of the Zero.
That size DCDC converter is quite big but I think it is feasible to make a DCDC converter the size of a charge tank and hopefully more than 12kW of power.
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It appears Zero has been looking into this for at least 2 years, based on my 2020 Owner's Manual. But with the hardware changes required, including a CCS connector and the ability to retain the present Level 2 charging system, I suspect the price tag would be a significant fraction of a new bike.
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hmm if only they could dynamically reconfigure the monolith in software with some relays so that it was a 400V pack then they wouldn't need the DCDC conversion...
Cas :)
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As of firmware v20, when pulling the config via the MBB CCS and 500W DC to DC converter show as options.
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The 500W DC-DC entry goes back several firmware versions. The CCS entry appears to be new.