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Title: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: flynnstig82r on December 01, 2021, 12:01:12 PM

I recently found a good deal on a low-mile SS9-, and as I think about what accessories to bring over from the Zero and what to sell, I was wondering if I can use my ElCon charger on the new bike. I know that Energicas don't have anything akin to the external charging port on the Zero, but would it be possible to hook the ElCon up to the battery terminals and obtain 6.3 kW AC charging for those situations where the closest DC station is a bridge too far?

In this scenario, I would either mount the ElCon in a semi-permanent place or obtain an adapter from the battery terminals to an SB50 connector that could mate with the ElCon charger. I'm willing to undertake the project even if it's kind of a PITA because 6.3 kW AC charging and 2.5 kW dub-120V charging would be pretty sweet, but if it's a professional-level job in difficulty or danger then I'll just sell the ElCon and be happy with the built-in 3 kW.

Title: Re: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: Shadow on December 01, 2021, 01:28:47 PM

Very different battery voltages are involved here. Not going to work.

Title: Re: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: flynnstig82r on December 01, 2021, 02:37:32 PM

Ah yes, of course! I didn’t think about the different pack voltage.

Title: Re: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: staples on December 01, 2021, 11:03:41 PM

There are higher voltage chargers available: https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm (https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm)
I'm sure there would be many challenges with using them: compatibility of CAN control, charging algorithms, and wiring to name a few. Do Energica's even have an accessory charging port?

All this has been running through my head as I decide if an Ribelle or an dub-J'd SR/* is right for my next bike.

Title: Re: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: MVetter on December 01, 2021, 11:22:55 PM

There's no accessory port. The other hurdle to overcome is the overloading the AC charge fuse inside the battery case, and the fact that the wiring is designed to handle the load from the 3kW onboard unit.

Title: Re: Possible to use an Elcon TC 3.3 kW external charger to boost AC charging speed?
Post by: flynnstig82r on December 02, 2021, 12:13:58 AM

Sounds like more trouble than it's worth. I guess 3 kW isn't so bad if it only needs to charge long enough to limp to the next DCFC station for a proper charge. Thanks for the info, Morgan!