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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: KuRi on February 10, 2021, 04:10:47 AM
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Hi!
My local dealer has decided to finish their business with zero (because of the current economic situation) and the closest dealer I can go is +250km...
I have done almost 7000km with my dsr 2020 and it is time for the first big maintenance check. I have learnt to adjust the belt by myself and I swapped the tires recently so I am only concerned about the electronic checks the dealer must accomplish.
Zero says that they are waiting for other dealer to open a shop near my city but they don't know when this will happen... or if it will happen...
Can you please tell me if I should stop using my bike or if I can continue even if I get 10.000km before this check? My only chance is to rent a truck to bring the bike to the closest dealer.
Thanks, as usual!
Regards.
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I can't think of any reason for you to not continue to ride your Zero. Your owner's manual tells you how to do every chassis maintenance procedure. Changing tires and the drive belt are likely the hardest things to do. With any luck your belt should last about 24K miles. The only thing the dealer can do that you can't is to "commission" the motor and I am not convinced that is really necessary unless you start to experience unusual performance issues.
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Ouch. Yeah, except for firmware issues and major hardware rebuild, there's nothing special you need from a dealer.
Tires, belt, brakes, shocks are all standard bike stuff.
-Crissa
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Hi!
My local dealer has decided to finish their business with zero (because of the current economic situation) and the closest dealer I can go is +250km...
I have done almost 7000km with my dsr 2020 and it is time for the first big maintenance check. I have learnt to adjust the belt by myself and I swapped the tires recently so I am only concerned about the electronic checks the dealer must accomplish.
Zero says that they are waiting for other dealer to open a shop near my city but they don't know when this will happen... or if it will happen...
Can you please tell me if I should stop using my bike or if I can continue even if I get 10.000km before this check? My only chance is to rent a truck to bring the bike to the closest dealer.
Thanks, as usual!
Regards.
Both of my Zeros have around 12,000 miles / 20 Km and neither have ever had any "electronic checks" on them. No motor commissioning or anything like that. They both still run like new.
I would stop riding when I notice a problem. Any problem with the performance. For an example, I have heard of one rider who lost regen just a day before a major breakdown.
As long as it rides as well as it did when new, and notice no differences, I wouldn't worry about it. However, YMMV.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Many thanks for all the comments. Yes, I was only worried about the commissioning of the motor but the bike still rides perfectly as new.
BTW what is the commissioning of the motor? Is it just connecting the bike to a computer and pressing a button? :D
Cheers!!!
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BTW what is the commissioning of the motor? Is it just connecting the bike to a computer and pressing a button? :D
It's measuring the alignment of the magnetic markers on the motor to the coils. It's so the controller gives the right pattern of AC power to the motor to accelerate or decelerate. How they do it, I don't know.
-Crissa
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BTW what is the commissioning of the motor? Is it just connecting the bike to a computer and pressing a button? :D
It's measuring the alignment of the magnetic markers on the motor to the coils. It's so the controller gives the right pattern of AC power to the motor to accelerate or decelerate. How they do it, I don't know.
-Crissa
I am still trying to understand why the new version of the Zero motor needs to be commissioned every 8K miles, while the older version of the motor, like the one in my daughter's 2014 S, apparently does not. My understanding (which could be wrong) is that the major change to the two different motor designs is that the old motor had its permanent magnets stuck to the motor shell to keep the magnets cooler, with the electrical coils were on the motor shaft. However the new design has the magnetic coils stuck to the motor shell to keep them cooler, with the permanent magnets located on the motor shaft. Why the old design didn't need motor "commissioning" but the new design does is a mystery to me that I have never seen explained by Zero. The one thing that it does seem to do (if you follow Zero's service recommendation) for sure is to keep the Zero owner visiting their dealer's shop occasionally, which is no doubt a good thing for their dealers, as well as possibly a good thing for the Zero owner, depending upon their level of chassis maintenance competency.
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It doesn't do any favours for one of the major USPs of Zero ownership which is the total lack of servicing costs. Or not, as it would seem.
Cas :)
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Many thanks for all the comments. Yes, I was only worried about the commissioning of the motor but the bike still rides perfectly as new.
BTW what is the commissioning of the motor? Is it just connecting the bike to a computer and pressing a button? :D
Cheers!!!
No, I hear they do it is on line with the Zero factory using a screen that only the Zero dealers can excess. The way it is done, it is not possible for a dealer to screw it up. They simply align marks up together on a screen while communicating with the Zero factory. I have never seen it being done, but I have talked to one person who has.
But I think they are discovering the bikes rarely go out of commission, unless something such as the motor is changed. When they first come up with maintenance schedules, IMO, they are often only guessing at first. For an example, it is in writing that my battery coolant in my Tesla should be changed every five years. Now, after many Teslas are past that five year mark, they are saying to never change it, unless there is work being done in a related area. Now they say it should last the life of the car.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Yeah, unless something is wrong, the bikes shouldn't go out of commission. But your belt shouldn't slip and the motor mounts shouldn't come loose and the triple-tree should need tightening but sometimes it does.
-Crissa
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I am curious to know; what dealer? The dealer where I took my fxs last summer seemed to be pretty dis-enchanted with Zero maintenance processes. i.e. the dealer technician is helpless without the factory connection. They had no problems with selling them, but all of the time-consuming logistics involved with connecting to the factory in a different time zone made a simple process extraordinarily difficult. I would not be at all surprised to learn that it was my dealer.