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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: DonTom on February 04, 2021, 05:33:49 AM
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I would like to buy an E-RV, but I was born too long ago for what I want.
I want at least a 500 mile range at 70 MPH and more places to fast charge.
They are about half way there. (https://archive.curbed.com/2019/9/17/20870863/electric-rv-for-sale-camper-motorhome-iridium-dusseldorf)
But 249 miles at what speed?
Only 219K$US if anybody wants to buy one as it is. However, for now, it is only sold in Europe, where it makes more sense than here in the USA for these days.
-Don- Reno, NV
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It definitely makes sense in Europe, where you can travel through 3 different countries in 200 miles if you get it just right.
However I can't help but notice that it costs actually about twice what buying an actual house costs in Europe. Anyone with the kind of money to just buy a couple of houses here is ... just going to buy a couple of houses. And they certainly won't be holidaying in an RV.
Cas :)
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However I can't help but notice that it costs actually about twice what buying an actual house costs in Europe. Anyone with the kind of money to just buy a couple of houses here is ... just going to buy a couple of houses. And they certainly won't be holidaying in an RV.
I whish. This would be only half a house where I live in Europe :)
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Could literally buy 3 houses in North Wales for that sort of cash! Shame North Wales is no longer in Europe.
Cas :)
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Could literally buy 3 houses in North Wales for that sort of cash! Shame North Wales is no longer in Europe.
Cas :)
One of the premium models would only amount to a down-payment on a per-occupied home in the San Francisco Bay Area. According to news articles in my newspaper the median price of homes purchased last year in my county was $1.45 million USD. :o Homes on my block sold for $35K when they were built in 1971 and are now selling for $1.3 million once they are cleaned up and repainted after years of being lived in.
The other question regarding that EV motor home is will you be able to fully recharge its battery pack overnight at the campground that you visit to show off your spiffy new wheels and amaze the other campers? ??? BTW, where is the rack on the back of the vehicle for two electric dirt bikes to be used for exploring the area around the campsite? ;)
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For that sort of money I'd want an actual docking bay with spiffy Thunderbirds style door etc. to put my electric bikes in.
Cas :)
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It definitely makes sense in Europe, where you can travel through 3 different countries in 200 miles if you get it just right.
However I can't help but notice that it costs actually about twice what buying an actual house costs in Europe. Anyone with the kind of money to just buy a couple of houses here is ... just going to buy a couple of houses. And they certainly won't be holidaying in an RV.
Cas :)
That ERV is cheap compared to many diesel RVs. See here (https://www.northtrailrv.com/inventory/newmar/king%20aire/mhd/stocknumber/13131?gclid=Cj0KCQiA6t6ABhDMARIsAONIYyywq90pj4t4jiZ9RKcc7QIYOsGRdVYrV1Mfa9dwA3ZKwPv-Omw2fJAaAkrqEALw_wcB)
Only $1,366,249 for that one and there are countless others at around the same price.
Many people prefer RVs over houses. I have considered such myself, just to chase the best weather for the seasons. Many have sold their only house to live in a nice RV, Some regret it after a few months, some others think it was the best decision of their life,
-Don- Reno, NV
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The other question regarding that EV motor home is will you be able to fully recharge its battery pack overnight
It would have to take more than 25 hours to fully charge a drained 300KWH battery at 12KW (50 amps @ 240 VAC).
When E-RVs become common, I assume RV parks will have some major changes.
My Tesla has a 75 KWH pack for its 320 mile range at 65 MPH. I assume an RV will need a little more than three times that, just as an RV gets one third the MPG of a car. Three times the energy needed either way. But almost any RVer would want even more range than that. My ICE RV has a 55 gallon tank and gets around ten MPG for a 550 mile range on the freeway. Some diesels have a thousand mile range on a tank. RVers will want about the same on an E-RV. So there are many issues to get E-RVs popular and reasonably priced.
-Don- Reno, NV
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From what I could find it comes as either 108kW/h or 86kW/h (400km and 300km range respectively) and charging is 22kW AC or 50kW DC (100kW in the future).
https://www.electrive.com/2019/08/07/iridium-presents-electric-rv-with-increased-range/
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It's really one of the last segments that will make financial sense, even once the capacity is available.
An RV is typically being driven to places far from traditional infrastructure, sometimes with fuel stations further away and often without any electricity at all.
As previously mentioned the huge amount of KWH for decent range would be a huge cost, but importantly, would take a lot of time to charge even on todays faster chargers. If a single night at a campground isn't going to be enough to recharge it's going to be a huge negative for the more adventuring type that often park at a different campsite each night.
Campgrounds will be the last place to install fast chargers.
We'll get there, but not anytime soon.
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Campgrounds are the first fast chargers ^-^
-Crissa
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My son-in-law has a relative who lives in Oregon in an old school bus that they bought from a local school district and fixed up inside to make it a motor home. But I don't think it actually moves. I think it is just parked somewhere and that is where they live. They are either renting a space or have found somewhere to hide out. ;)
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From what I could find it comes as either 108kW/h or 86kW/h (400km and 300km range respectively) and charging is 22kW AC or 50kW DC (100kW in the future).
https://www.electrive.com/2019/08/07/iridium-presents-electric-rv-with-increased-range/
Range is meaningless with EVs when speed is not mentioned for that range.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I can't see people driving houses around at much more than 50mph though, unless they're insane, right? So that's possibly a typical upper bound.
Cas :)
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I can't see people driving houses around at much more than 50mph though, unless they're insane, right? So that's possibly a typical upper bound.
Cas :)
Well, I see people towing large house trailers on the freeways at 75 mph without too much worry. This is in spite of the 55 mph speed limit for trailer hauling by any vehicle in California. Motor homes typically keep up with most traffic on multi-lane freeways unless going uphill. And also (of course) unless they are on a one-lane road with a half-mile of traffic backed up behind them. Under those conditions they are very careful not to go too fast. ;)