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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Electric junkie on January 19, 2021, 10:07:44 PM
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A couple of years ago I purchased a second hand 2014 Zero FX motorcycle .
I love that bike plenty , but ....
The motorcycle software ,controller ( I assume ) sometimes cuts the motor out complete, even whilst I am riding at constant speed .
Mostly I tend to fix it by switching the bike off and on again , but sometimes it takes a bit more pushing backwards and forwards before it wants to go live again .
Anybody out their with a similar problem ?
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Hey
Sounds like problem that i had a couple of years ago, tell me if its acting the same:
You riding and and just lose any power from the motor, the dash, light, 12v so on.. stay the same, just the motor "turn off"
Then you need to recycle (switch off and on the bike),
If that sound like your problem, I think you have one of the battery's that doing some problem
and there is kind of easy fix for that.. let me know..
If everything shut down, or "restart" its might be the switch that doing some problems..
But the most impotent try to download the logs for the motorcycle and to battery's and to read it with reader..
I had many problems with my Zero FX 14, lucky I am playing with electronics most of my life, so have touch for that.
Please Ride safe, its dangerous to ride like that at public road...
(by the way i think this Q should be at the proper place, so others can learn from that)
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My first Zero, a 2012 S, had a couple of problems with power interruptions. When new sometimes while waiting at a stop light and then trying to take off the bike wouldn't move unless I rebooted the ignition. (No fun with car drivers behind you.) That problem was solved at the factory by replacing the throttle assembly. Then a few months later the "glitch" would occasionally rear its ugly head and shut down power while traveling on the highway. This apparently had something to do with the encoders and the controller going out of sinc. That was solved by a formal recall and a firmware update. Of course, the 2014 models are completely different machines with different motors, batteries and maybe controllers, too.
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Sounds like downloading the logs and battery logs is the first step to solving this problem .
interesting how the problem sounds so familiar to the recal problem of the 2012/2013 , although you say the 2014 is a complete different machine .
Steven
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Sounds like downloading the logs and battery logs is the first step to solving this problem .
interesting how the problem sounds so familiar to the recal problem of the 2012/2013 , although you say the 2014 is a complete different machine .
Steven
Actually, the 2013 models were completely different machines. The 2012 bikes were a big improvement over the 2010 and 2011 models, but they only lasted one year. They used EIG (I think that was the name) batteries and an off-the-shelf open shell brushless electric motor. The 2013 bikes switched to Farsis batteries and a Zero-designed enclosed motor. The 2012 S and DS models were all recalled by the factory due to a tendency to burn up while being charged. :o
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I managed to download the riding logs for my bike as per attachment.
I am struggling to download the battery logs .
Everytime I start the battery log download it seems to freeze up at 33 % download .
I tried to read the riding logs , but I am not to sure what I should be looking for with regards to sorting or identifying out the defect .
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01/30/2021 10:57:56 Module 00 CAN Link Up
04449 01/30/2021 10:57:56 Module 00 serial: 15sg0108, vmod: 111.591V
04450 01/30/2021 11:29:41 Module 00 CAN Link Down
04451 01/30/2021 11:29:41 Module 01 CAN Link Down
04452 01/30/2021 11:29:41 Sevcon Turned On
04453 01/30/2021 11:29:41 Module 00 CAN Link Up
04454 01/30/2021 11:29:41 Module 01 CAN Link Up
04455 01/30/2021 11:29:42 Sevcon CAN Link Up
04456 01/30/2021 11:29:42 DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.
04457 01/30/2021 11:29:42 Module 00 vmod: 111.536maxsys: 111.576 minsys: 111.522 diff: 0.053999999999987836 vcap: 100.75 prechg: 90.32957968727585%
04458 01/30/2021 11:29:42 Module 01 vmod: 111.564maxsys: 111.576 minsys: 111.522 diff: 0.053999999999987836 vcap: 100.75 prechg: 90.30690903875802%
04459 01/30/2021 11:29:42 DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed
04460 01/30/2021 11:29:42 DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed
04461 01/30/2021 11:29:42 INFO: Enabling Charger 2
04462 01/30/2021 11:29:42 INFO: Enabling Charger 3
04463 01/30/2021 11:29:45 CIB timeout: 5012 ms
04464 01/30/2021 11:29:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.554V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04465 01/30/2021 11:30:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.515V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04466 01/30/2021 11:31:43 0x37 0xb2 0x22 0x3c ???
04467 01/30/2021 11:31:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.486V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04468 01/30/2021 11:32:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.468V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04469 01/30/2021 11:33:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.449V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04470 01/30/2021 11:34:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.427V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04471 01/30/2021 11:35:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.407V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04472 01/30/2021 11:36:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 21C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.389V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04473 01/30/2021 11:37:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.373V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 26C, CtrlTemp: 22C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04474 01/30/2021 11:38:20 DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
04475 01/30/2021 11:38:20 DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
04476 01/30/2021 11:38:50 Riding PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.301V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 27C, CtrlTemp: 24C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 0, Odo: 2103km
04477 01/30/2021 11:39:10 DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
04478 01/30/2021 11:39:10 DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
04479 01/30/2021 11:39:28 DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode
04480 01/30/2021 11:39:28 DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
04481 01/30/2021 11:39:49 DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode
04482 01/30/2021 11:39:49 DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect
04483 01/30/2021 11:39:50 Disarmed PackTemp: h 23C, l 22C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.291V, MotAmps: 0, BattAmps: 0, Mods: 11, MotTemp: 29C, CtrlTemp: 23C, AmbTemp: 24C, MotRPM: 5, Odo: 2103km
04484 01/30/2021 11:40:19 0x37
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This log above is the one when my zero bike that was unwilling to operate at all on the 2021/01/30.
Who would be able to identify from the log what the problem in question is ?
Regards Steven
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Well, what's different from a normal day?
-Crissa
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On a normal day my bike would run , but on the 2021-01-30 it did not manage and it was unwilling to move at all .
Motor making a funny humming sound and unwilling to propell me forward .
And tomorrow the issue would be gone again and drive like a normal electric bike without issue
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It's easier to pick out errors that are problems when you have a base line log from a day it works normally.
-Crissa
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Ok .
That makes sense .
I will try to download the logs on a normal day and then compare the 2 logs