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Title: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 22, 2020, 02:17:54 AM
2 screws (that are difficult to get to) keep the the tank bag lock in place on '16 bikes. Does this lock need to be removed for the newer tank plastics to fit?
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: TheRan on July 22, 2020, 02:58:01 AM
Looking at images of the location of the lock I'm pretty sure it would have to be removed, it sits right under the lid hinge of the newer tank and I can't imagine Zero would purposely make room for it. Wouldn't it be a lot easier to remove though once the plastics are off?
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 22, 2020, 03:03:12 AM
I'm on it  ;D
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: TheRan on July 22, 2020, 03:12:11 AM
If you haven't already seen there's this option for repurposing the lock, probably other places it could be mounted too: https://zeromanual.com/wiki/SDS_Platform/Install_Tank_Lock_As_Tail_Helmet_Lock

Did you paint that frame or has the anodising faded? Looks quite good, probably adds a bit of contrast with the black plastics.
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 22, 2020, 06:04:20 AM
Thanks, there are 2 allen bolts mounted, the left one has a ground wire connected to it from the bottom of the frame. I chiseled the thinnest part of the lock and it broke pretty easily. scratches on frame but no big hits to it. Then I rerouted the ground to one of the top screws that hold the body plastic together. New body arrives in a month or so, at least the lock won't be in the way now
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 22, 2020, 06:06:01 AM
Did you paint that frame or has the anodising faded? Looks quite good, probably adds a bit of contrast with the black plastics.

The frame faded. First year that went by it was a kind of annoying purple color, another year or so and it became that grey (which i've come to like too!)
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: TheRan on July 22, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
Why'd you break it, was the bolt rounded off?
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on July 22, 2020, 07:40:39 AM
I never thought of that, for tank plastics renewal. This has been sort of tacitly known necessary for Charge Tank plastics or generally putting a charging port in the same position.

I’ll queue this up for the manual.
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: Crissa on July 22, 2020, 07:47:49 AM
I think the trunk tank also doesn't use the lock?

-Crissa
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: Richard230 on July 22, 2020, 07:51:38 PM
Speaking of the tank trunk lock, my Power Tank was installed at the factory and the lock remains in place at the front of the tank. It still is opens and closes with ignition key, but that is the only function it serves. I wonder why it stays in place when the PT is installed and is there anything that it can be used for? I tried using it as a helmet lock and it is just too far out of the way to be used to lock anything other than a thin and very flexible steel cable.  ???
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 23, 2020, 12:08:59 AM
Why'd you break it, was the bolt rounded off?
It was frustrating to access the allen bolts, there's a lip on the frame after you move a lock of wires over (12v ext), you have a tiny bit of leverage to unscrew them and you have to do it from a weird angle without much space. Looks like the ABS/brake lines sit right next to them too - I could have probably got the left bolt if I kept trying but the right bolt would be a challenge anyways.

The actual solution is to use a longer tool from the bottom-up but I knew from https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=9664.msg85609#msg85609 (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=9664.msg85609#msg85609) that these little extra parts are made with brittle metal. My question now is will my new desert sand bodywork look dumb with a faded frame, we'll see  ;D

I’ll queue this up for the manual.
Gods work

Richard thx for chiming in, maybe the power tank was an earlier design? I never used that lock
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: TheRan on July 23, 2020, 12:23:16 AM
I didn't realise that the lock itself is threaded and not the frame and that it bolts from underneath, I should have looked closer at the photo of the broken lock.

Is that a custom colour or do you mean the sandstone that the 2019 DS came in? That's what I have, wasn't super keen on it at first but its grown on me and I've had a few people say they like it. Very similar to a colour Yamaha uses on some of their bikes like the TW200. Look forward to seeing how it turns out.
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: idle on July 23, 2020, 01:35:34 AM
Yep sandstone, I'm just tired of the black
Title: Re: Do you need to remove the tank bag lock in order to fit '17+ tank plastics?
Post by: Crissa on July 23, 2020, 02:09:33 AM
I use a bike cable for my helmet anyhow.  Anywhere someone would be carrying bolt cutters to assault bikes is not somewhere I'd want to park anyhow.

-Crissa