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[Jan Wespelaar]

I have bought 2 months ago a FXS to ease the travel to work as I am living in Brussel, Europe. As in a lot of city's there is some evolution to create vast  aera's with a general speed limitation of 30kph (=20mph). As the bike rides that very nice (=fast), respecting this limitations is a very stressing buss. I am wondering if some one knows a way to lower the "max speed" in the costum setting of bike to speeds of 20mph, in stead of the present 60mph?

This would make driving in these city more relaxing and avoid unwanted speed penalities.

I guess this kind of general very low speed limitation is something maybe typical of Europe making it less needed in the states but it could be a great thing as it provides a kind of a speed limiter for free.

Does someone has knows a hack to lower this value in the app?

[Hans2183]

Hello Jan, Hans, also from Belgium here 

The SRF has that option in the custom mode where you can configure both power, torque and top speed. I haven't seen that option in the previous app though. What you could try is to limit power in that mode since that is what gets you to that top speed. But not sure if that is anything close that what would make it usable.

[Jan Wespelaar]

Hello Hans,

Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately reducing power and torque aren't sufficient, they reduce the acceleration and speed of reaction but this is by far insufficient to limit speeds that low as required, 20mph. Even with everything tuned down to 1% it takes only 20m to excess legal speed limits, whats somewhat toxic  but costly 

Best regards, keep warm with the current mini-lockdown in Belgium.

Jan

[Crissa]

This would be a nice feature to add to the older bikes' software, if possible.

It's very easy to get up above the speed-limit with a Zero ^-^

-Crissa

[Jan Wespelaar]

Hello Crissa,

Indeed it would be a nice feature to be available.

And I personally would expect this isn't that complex as the possibility is already available in the form of the "max speed" parameter in the app, the only thing needed would be the selection of al lower max speed value as low as 10 or 20mph. If lowering this limits would result in hysterish effects on the engine driver maybe these lower max speeds values will require that the user selects at the same time low power and torque values.

The beauty of all of this is that this combination could be done on the Mobile App level without any modification in the bike itself and by this way available for even some older models as long as they can use the app's of the present bikes (S-SR-D-DR-FX-FXS-.....)

Cross fingers that this feature could be picked up by the Zero Motorcycles developers.

Jan

[alko]

My 2017 dsr is the same.
That's a great idea though and I would make the suggestion to Zero. They've been very good at answering my emails and phone call. Perhaps  it's something they can add to a future firmware update or an app update.

[JaimeC]

You can DEFINITELY set a top speed in the custom settings for the older bikes.  Make sure you have the latest app installed, but I have it set on my 2018 S.

[stevenh]

You can DEFINITELY set a top speed in the custom settings for the older bikes.  Make sure you have the latest app installed, but I have it set on my 2018 S.

You can set it on the SR/F as well.  I have my custom mode set to 95 MPH...

Steve

[Auriga]

I've asked for a lower top speed before and was told that regulatory requirements prevent them from lowering the top speed below 60mph. So I don't think you'll get that

[togo]

> You can DEFINITELY set a top speed in the custom settings for the older bikes.  Make sure you have the latest app installed, but I have it set on my 2018 S.

Yes, but it's not low enough.

[Crissa]

My app doesn't select speeds below 60mph, though.

Doesn't the SR/F also have cruise control, for another layer of limit control?

-Crissa

[Jan Wespelaar]

Dear Auriga,

When have they respond to you with this explication of regulatory reason for not lowering the top speed below 60mph? Law do change in time .

Furthermore for all of us continental Europe drivers, this rule doesn't exist in our place which could maybe give Zero freedom to lower these values for "metric" value users (which are the continental Europeans). The existants of both measuring system could for once be an advantage

I will try to give them a phone call today and keep you informed of the feedback, fingers crossed because it would a nice feature as respecting a speed limit of 30kph is a hell of a job with a Zero, your in excess even before having crossed the square at the traffic lights.

[JaimeC]

I will try to give them a phone call today and keep you informed of the feedback, fingers crossed because it would a nice feature as respecting a speed limit of 30kph is a hell of a job with a Zero, your in excess even before having crossed the square at the traffic lights.

Your periodic reminder that there is an infinite number of settings between "throttle fully closed" and "throttle fully open."  There is no need to whack the throttle wide open leaving a stop...  This also applies to owners of older models without traction control.

[ctrlburn]

It has to be possible because the 2019 Zero tour "Discover the Ride" featured Zero motorcycles with limited top speed allowing non-licensed riders a safe experience.

https://www.totalmotorcycle.com/zero-motorcycles-discover-the-ride-no-motorcycle-license-required/
New Rider Course – Ride Zero motorcycles that are governed to safe speeds on a controlled, indoor course and in an educational atmosphere.

https://motorcycleshows.com/content/discover-ride
New Rider Course in partnership with Zero Motorcycles
The New Rider Course gives non-licensed attendees the opportunity to ride a motorcycle for the first time and learn riding basics from expert instructors. The indoor demo course will host a fleet of speed-limited electric Zero Motorcycles to give participants the experience of riding a motorcycle in a safe and controlled environment. Zero Motorcycles have no transmission, feature ABS as standard equipment, and its zero emissions make an indoor experience on one of the most advanced motorcycles in the world a possibility. Instructors from Total Control Training will be on hand at each show to give instruction and guidance and gear will be provided by Cycle Gear, Shark Helmets, HJC and Shoei.


I really want to limit the top speed, to even below moped limits for novice riders to start learning.

[Auriga]

Dear Auriga,

When have they respond to you with this explication of regulatory reason for not lowering the top speed below 60mph? Law do change in time .

Furthermore for all of us continental Europe drivers, this rule doesn't exist in our place which could maybe give Zero freedom to lower these values for "metric" value users (which are the continental Europeans). The existants of both measuring system could for once be an advantage

I will try to give them a phone call today and keep you informed of the feedback, fingers crossed because it would a nice feature as respecting a speed limit of 30kph is a hell of a job with a Zero, your in excess even before having crossed the square at the traffic lights.

It was vague, but something about being classed as a scooter v a motorcycle and being allowed on highways