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Lightning Sparc
« on: March 07, 2020, 09:55:17 AM »

Lightning's ultra fun micro-commuter:

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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2020, 09:59:00 AM »

The specs (last I heard):

30hp
80mph+ top speed
242lbs
50 mile range
$4,950
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2020, 10:10:40 AM »

Hub motor.
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2020, 10:11:31 AM »

Hub motor.

Undoubtedly, but completely expected AND acceptable in a sub-$5k commuter/toy.
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2020, 10:31:28 AM »

Yep, hub.  I was told there might not be an official announcement about them, but that was back when they were focusing on the Strike.  Hopefully they start selling them soon!  Teach those Grom hooligans what's what  ;D
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2020, 08:44:53 PM »

The specs (last I heard):

30hp
80mph+ top speed
242lbs
50 mile range
$4,950
Thanks Sam!
What diameter wheels are those? 12"?
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2020, 02:52:09 AM »

Interesting. Looks like it was pulled right off the stage from the Chinese domestic electric motorcycle floor. I was there last year and saw these bikes all over. Here is an example of two.

You can ask the manufacturer for whatever voltage battery or power motor you want. You can also send them your logo to have your own custom bike made. You can even ask for changes to the bodywork. China is cool like that.

The M7 :

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3000w-eec-approval-faster-speed-m3_62041467099.html?spm=a2700.details.pronpeci14.5.24d42b95I1u4NL

The M5 :

http://www.globalmarket.com/product-info/electric-motorcycle-2000w-3000w-motor-scooter-ultra-silence-e-bike-11464251.html

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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2020, 02:57:03 AM »

80MPH on those little wheels? Yowza.
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2020, 03:02:26 AM »

Interesting. Looks like it was pulled right off the stage from the Chinese domestic electric motorcycle floor. I was there last year and saw these bikes all over. Here is an example of two.

You can ask the manufacturer for whatever voltage battery or power motor you want. You can also send them your logo to have your own custom bike made. You can even ask for changes to the bodywork. China is cool like that.

The M7 :

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/3000w-eec-approval-faster-speed-m3_62041467099.html?spm=a2700.details.pronpeci14.5.24d42b95I1u4NL

The M5 :

http://www.globalmarket.com/product-info/electric-motorcycle-2000w-3000w-motor-scooter-ultra-silence-e-bike-11464251.html

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65kph and 60kph top speeds, so no, those are toys in comparison to what Sam is claiming Richard is claiming.

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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2020, 03:04:00 AM »

Hub motor.

Undoubtedly, but completely expected AND acceptable in a sub-$5k commuter/toy.

At 80+ MPH?  No. Not expected.
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2020, 03:05:21 AM »

I guess we will just have to talk to owners when deliveries happen.
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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2020, 03:13:21 AM »

You can ask the Chinese manufacturer for those specs.

Also, hubs aren't allllllllll bad. I, for example, did 96 mph on the Evoke outside of Beijing, which is a full sized bike with a hub motor. I agree it seems questionable with this small of a motor. 80 KMH is possible with higher voltage.


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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2020, 03:15:45 AM »

> I guess we will just have to talk to owners when deliveries happen.

Indeed. Actual product delivered is what counts.  Until then, hyping Lightning is not doing any motorcyclists any favors.

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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2020, 03:18:49 AM »

You can ask the Chinese manufacturer for those specs.

Also, hubs aren't allllllllll bad. I, for example, did 96 mph on the Evoke outside of Beijing, which is a full sized bike with a hub motor. I agree it seems questionable with this small of a motor. 80 KMH is possible with higher voltage.

I'm not saying it's not possible with hub motors.  But there are reasons they never took off for vehicles at highway speeds.  You see them on city scooters and e-bikes almost exclusively.


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Re: Lightning Sparc
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2020, 04:59:48 AM »

I bet hub motors can get really hot when running at high speed for very long. They don't seem to have much of a cooling system.  ???
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