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Author Topic: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1  (Read 4186 times)

MVetter

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Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« on: February 22, 2020, 12:06:24 AM »



Getting more footage and data over the next few days.

edit- Part 2 is up:

« Last Edit: February 27, 2020, 11:25:29 PM by MVetter »
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2020, 01:57:14 AM »

Geez, dude, showing two illegal passes in the video?

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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 08:23:17 PM »

One should always keep a 15% speed differential compared to car traffic, and it is much less safe to ride in the middle of a single line of cars.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2020, 01:40:24 AM »

This is likely too much to ask since it is owned by someone else, but can you see the controller?  Is it Sevcon?  What is it's max amp output?
I know the motor is encased for the cooling so it would be hard to see if it was capable of the HP to get up to it's advertised top speed if given the 20 kWh battery source.

Basically can the other components achieve the bikes specs if given the larger battery or does it look like it's just not up to spec period.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2020, 04:07:22 AM »

So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.

edit- Carbon is conductive.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2020, 04:09:26 AM »

So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.

edit- Carbon is conductive.

The Strike does sound like a work in progress.   ::)
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2020, 05:55:57 AM »

Traffic laws are for the lowest common denominator and if you don't disobey them constantly you probably have little business in the very dangerous business of riding a motorcycle on public roads.

I thought it's a good review. But would like to see more technical details. Maybe a teardown.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2020, 06:26:53 AM »

That's exactly what we want, as well!
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2020, 07:14:28 AM »

There is a little light regard for traffic laws and there's tailgating and passing in restricted lanes that should contain stopping and left turning traffic.

All three things are the highest killers of motorcyclists.

-Crissa
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2020, 07:55:37 AM »

Hey Crissa you’re in Santa Cruz right? If you want to see the Strike we’re bringing it to the Re-Cycle Garage tomorrow around noon.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2020, 01:08:10 PM »

So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.

edit- Carbon is conductive.

The Strike does sound like a work in progress.   ::)
Indeed. And scary.
Even if the pack is "just" 150V rather the 300V (or whatever higher voltage the Carbon edition is supposed to have to support CCS), that's still high enough to be a serious hazard to the rider in case of a crash.
IMO That shouldn't be road-legal except for experimental/testing  purposes by a manufacturer.

I also finally made it through the podcast. I'm now a bit concerned for the owner... This is not a good first bike for a new rider.

(MVetter, thanks to you & Brandon for the review & podcast!)
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2020, 09:41:07 PM »

Is this the high end model? If it is then it is seriously underwhelming
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2020, 10:25:27 PM »

Yes. It has been said repeatedly by Lightning that only Carbon Editions, the high end, are delivering first. This is a Carbon Edition, one of 4 I'm able to verify has been delivered. This is the only one I've been able to see in person so far.
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2020, 01:11:06 AM »

Maybe that great partnership in China wasn't such a good idea.

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If you can get away with cheating, then cheat.   (Chinese idiom)
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Re: Lightning Strike Carbon Edition Review part 1
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2020, 02:31:39 PM »

https://soundcloud.com/re-cyclegarage/podcast-356-its-got-a-heartbeat

Go about 40 minutes in.

Crissa, what were your thoughts?
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