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[TheRan]

Looking at getting one of these chargers (if I can actually find somewhere to buy them from) and have a few questions. First off, the only place I've found so far that sells them is AF1 but they says they a North American version, is there actually any difference? I'm in the UK so I'd be putting 240v into it but as far as I can tell they're variable voltage units.

Secondly, I'll probably rarely be using it at home and would instead take it with me on longer trips so I need to figure out how I'd carry it. Anyone know if it'll fit in the lower storage compartment of a 7.2kw/h half battery model? I managed to find dimensions on the Delta site and while it should physically fit inside the compartment I don't know if it'll go through the stupidly shaped hatch opening. The dimensions also include the mounting brackets and I don't know how much they stick out (are they removable?) so I can't even make a mock up from cardboard to see if I can stuff it in.

[ESokoloff]

Question #1.....  60Hz vs 50Hz?

[NEW2elec]

I use one and DonTom has about 20 of them.
I doubt it would fit in your lower storage section.  The cable with the Andersen connection is rather thick and not foldable.  It's also pretty heavy.
Don and myself go with a theory that it saves stress on the onboard charger, and it cuts your time in half (with 1) so that's nice.
They are a great backup if your onboard charger goes out as well.  The Quiq charger can charge by itself.

For longer trips the charge tank is the way to go for your bike.  It'd only take about an hour for about 90% charge with a 7.2 battery.

If you still want a Quiq charger it does need to have been programed for the Zero BMS interaction.  Your local dealer should be able to get you one.  They run $600 U.S. so a bit more in Britain.
 Oh one more thing.
You will need a separate circuit for the Quiq charger and the onboard charger, if your using a wall socket.  They will pull too many amps and throw your breaker. 
Well at least in the U.S. with 20 amp breakers at 120V.

[TheRan]

Question #1.....  60Hz vs 50Hz?

Forgot to say, they're also multi-frequency. 85 to 265 VAC and 45 to 65Hz.

I use one and DonTom has about 20 of them.
I doubt it would fit in your lower storage section.  The cable with the Andersen connection is rather thick and not foldable.  It's also pretty heavy.
Don and myself go with a theory that it saves stress on the onboard charger, and it cuts your time in half (with 1) so that's nice.
They are a great backup if your onboard charger goes out as well.  The Quiq charger can charge by itself.

For longer trips the charge tank is the way to go for your bike.  It'd only take about an hour for about 90% charge with a 7.2 battery.

If you still want a Quiq charger it does need to have been programed for the Zero BMS interaction.  Your local dealer should be able to get you one.  They run $600 U.S. so a bit more in Britain.
 Oh one more thing.
You will need a separate circuit for the Quiq charger and the onboard charger, if your using a wall socket.  They will pull too many amps and throw your breaker. 
Well at least in the U.S. with 20 amp breakers at 120V.

A charge tank would be great, but it's more money, more weight (that can't be removed, I wouldn't need it very often), and the tank storage is really handy.

The current draw wouldn't be an issue, the limit is 13A at 240v which is a bit over 3kW and using the Quiq with the onboard would only be about 2.3kW.

I don't think the cable would be the limiting factor, the way it would go in the compartment (if it fits through the hole) the thinner input cable would go facing down and then the output cable would be facing up and should have plenty of room to be coiled up.

As you've got one would you mind taking some measurements for me? I need the height, width, and depth of the main body of the charger as well as how far the mounting brackets stick out (if they're not removable), noting which dimension measurement they add to.

[ESokoloff]

UL vs CE?

[TheRan]

Doubtful, they're a US based company and make most of their sales there, plus they don't make the distinction with anything else on the site

[ESokoloff]

I’m curious as to what’s left?

[NEW2elec]

ok so it weighs 10 pounds.
It's 4 inches high
8.5 inches at the top and the bottom bracket is 11 inches.
Across the cooling fins is 10 inches.
The cord with the Andersen plug is a bit over 5 feet long.
The input cord is rather short and ends with a shrouded male C13 plug like the one on the bike's frame for the onboard charger.
That part could take a UK to C13 plug so your goo there.

Good luck, I've never seen the 7.2 storage compartment.

[TheRan]

Thanks so much, now I can make a mock up. From looking at some photos it looks like the mounting brackets are part of a single plate that covers the underside of the charger and not removable, is that right? I suppose if it would fit through the hole without them I could always just cut them off.

[NEW2elec]

I saw the screws holding the base but I don't know if it covers internal components or is just a base.
Removing it really wouldn't matter though since it just extends to the same level of the cord attach points.
Again the Andersen cord is maybe 10 gauge cord very thick and stiff.

[TheRan]

Yeah it wouldn't reduce the overall size, but they do run the entire width of the charger where as the cord is at one point and off to the side a bit. I'm thinking that if it does fit through the hole it probably won't be sliding straight in, more going in at an angle and then pivoting once it's part way in.

To give you an idea of what I'm dealing with here's a photo of the storage compartment



It should be about 10 inches wide (Delta gives the width of the charger as 9.7 inches so that'll be the tightest fit), about 17 inches high so an extra 8.5 inches to coil the cable up, and then about 7 inches front to back.

[NEW2elec]

I have to say I have my doubts about it fitting.
You could use a top case or even a good top bag or backpack.
Do be sure and take it out when you use it.  It gets pretty warm.

Good luck.

[DonTom]

I use one and DonTom has about 20 of them.

Nope, only seven Delta Q's and two 2.5 KW Elcons.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[DonTom]

BTW, the Delta Q chargers fit perfectly in the Zero saddle bags, one each.

Carrying them by any other means, IMO, would be a hassle.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[TheRan]

If it doesn't fit in the compartment I'll probably go with panniers instead, a top box would make it a pain to mount the bike with my short legs. Just a shame they're so damn expensive.