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Richard230

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No more front brake screeching
« on: January 08, 2020, 08:41:38 PM »

Finally, I have a solution to my 2018 S front brake screeching. Ever since my stock front brake pads bedded in they would make a loud screeching noise during the last 10 feet when coming to a complete stop.  :-[ Removing the pads, cleaning them thoroughly and applying an automotive anti-squeal brake compound to the back of the pads would solve the problem for about a hundred miles of suburban travel and then the noise would return again.  ???

So I finally broke down and replaced the stock pads with a set of EBC #FA209/2HH pads.  I have now used the pads for the past 500 miles and they have remained completely silent and (in addition) braking is improved over the original front brake pads.  :) So if you are experiencing braking noise, I can recommend these pads as being a inexpensive and worthwhile solution to the problem.  Personally, I think J.Jaun should use these pads in their calipers and ditch whomever makes their current brake pads.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2020, 12:23:14 AM »

I think your prior pads were just faulty. :P

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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2020, 02:26:51 AM »

I think your prior pads were just faulty. :P

-Crissa
Nope. AFAIK, perhaps most of the heavier older (perhaps not the SR/F) Zero S & SR's  all do it, since new. My DS has no trace of this problem. But my SR with power tank has it very bad, and exactly as Richard explained. The automotive anti-squeal stuff works perfectly for around 100 miles or so and then comes back almost as loud as ever.

Richard, thanks for the info.  I will soon change my SR pads to a set of  EBC #FA209/2HH pads. I will post here what happens. And re-post 500 miles later.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2020, 02:41:38 AM »

Finally, I have a solution to my 2018 S front brake screeching. Ever since my stock front brake pads bedded in they would make a loud screeching noise during the last 10 feet when coming to a complete stop.  :-[ Removing the pads, cleaning them thoroughly and applying an automotive anti-squeal brake compound to the back of the pads would solve the problem for about a hundred miles of suburban travel and then the noise would return again.  ???

So I finally broke down and replaced the stock pads with a set of EBC #FA209/2HH pads.  I have now used the pads for the past 500 miles and they have remained completely silent and (in addition) braking is improved over the original front brake pads.  :) So if you are experiencing braking noise, I can recommend these pads as being a inexpensive and worthwhile solution to the problem.  Personally, I think J.Jaun should use these pads in their calipers and ditch whomever makes their current brake pads.
With these new pads, did you still spray the stuff on the back?

I just ordered mine on Amazon.:


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If I also find mine to work quietly after 500 miles, this info. should then be added to the unofficial Zero Manual . Perhaps working well on one bike is just a fluke, but on two bikes I think could be a great indication of it being a fix for most, if not all.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2020, 02:53:36 AM »

The front brakes on my SR/F squeal every time I stop too. I need to look into replacement pads.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2020, 03:43:01 AM »

I've been using those pads for ~45k miles with similar results...welcome to the quiet side :)


Finally, I have a solution to my 2018 S front brake screeching. Ever since my stock front brake pads bedded in they would make a loud screeching noise during the last 10 feet when coming to a complete stop.  :-[ Removing the pads, cleaning them thoroughly and applying an automotive anti-squeal brake compound to the back of the pads would solve the problem for about a hundred miles of suburban travel and then the noise would return again.  ???

So I finally broke down and replaced the stock pads with a set of EBC #FA209/2HH pads.  I have now used the pads for the past 500 miles and they have remained completely silent and (in addition) braking is improved over the original front brake pads.  :) So if you are experiencing braking noise, I can recommend these pads as being a inexpensive and worthwhile solution to the problem.  Personally, I think J.Jaun should use these pads in their calipers and ditch whomever makes their current brake pads.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2020, 04:43:35 AM »

The front brakes on my SR/F squeal every time I stop too. I need to look into replacement pads.

I noticed the soul-destroying banshee squeal went away completely in the winter and came back in summer, with both OEM pads and EBC FA181. From there I figured out that humidity and moisture silence the noise.

I posted my solution a while ago, which is to pour water over the rotors and caliper before parking overnight. That gets rid of the squeal for about a week in the hot summer. I suspect the mechanism is rotor oxidation.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2020, 05:04:56 AM »

I did not coat my new pads with anti-squeal goop before installing them.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2020, 07:49:29 AM »

I did not coat my new pads with anti-squeal goop before installing them.
Sounds great. I will do the same and see what happens.

-Don-  Reno, NV
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2020, 01:11:58 AM »

Will these quoted pads fit an SR/F?
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2020, 04:08:43 AM »

The SR/F has different front brakes, so no.

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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2020, 12:47:51 AM »

Can someone with a SR/F measure the distance betwixt the front caliper mounting bolts? Should be either 100mm or108mm. Once verified I may be able to figure out which pads fit the SR/F.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2020, 03:47:31 AM »

The manual for the SR/F shows the part number SBS-SI-80GG in an image for the brake pads, while Googling that number does come up with some pads the sites say they fit 125 Aprillias so that might not be right unless the calipers use two pads per side.

Here's the manual in case you want to look through it yourself: http://media.zeromotorcycles.com/resources/owners-manuals/2020/2020-Zero-Owners-Manual-SRF.pdf
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2020, 08:39:22 AM »

I was just about to take my bike (2018 SR) to a local shop and ask if they could do anything about the squeeling. So your post came just in time; thanks! I've ordered a pair of the pads from Amazon.
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Re: No more front brake screeching
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2020, 11:52:09 PM »

The manual for the SR/F shows the part number SBS-SI-80GG in an image for the brake pads, while Googling that number does come up with some pads the sites say they fit 125 Aprillias so that might not be right unless the calipers use two pads per side.

Those can't be right. Only 1 retaining pin, the SR/F has got 2.
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