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[Rangerx52]

Yeah I cant see it being water at this point either. I cant find any water in anything beyond the handle clusters, I cant see anything actually wrong that I feel comfortable pulling apart. I tried the Bms resets, it did nothing.

So I have a completely dead bike now that wont ride, charge, or even download logs. And its everyone's winter break right now, so all the local shops and even zero HQ is closed. Figures.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

There are plenty of places for moisture and dirt to get trapped that would cause a ground isolation fault.

They’re not likely for most owners, but they are possible. The point is to figure out where the fault is.

The shops and Zero will open shortly. You’ll live waiting for them to open.

Have you checked for basic responses from the BMS via the front panel? It’ll at least tell you the battery state.

You can also check the DC-DC converter connector for dirt or a disconnection on the left side of the bike behind the frame spar in front of the frame tube. That connector is vulnerable to moisture and dirt if the grease isn’t fully applied. Honestly that should be a maintenance item.

[joethelesser]

I ride every commute, in all weather, on my FXS.  Maybe.... 40+ times in visibility-reducing hard rain.  The FXS seems to actually behave better in the rain, and after, than my other Dual-Sports.

I have a nice SAFF-20 fan for after a wet ride, and I usually pat it down after as well.

[Crissa]

I have a chicken-coop radiant heater I use for our bikes.  No light, just radiant warmth.

-Crissa

[ESokoloff]

I have a chicken-coop radiant heater I use for our bikes.  No light, just radiant warmth.

-Crissa

Reminds me of a fix I did for a small commercial hot water boiler (heater) thats located outdoors.
It would notoriously fail the next day after a rain event.
Steps were taken to insure no water was infiltrating but the trips persisted until a low wattage heater was installed in the control compartment.
The heat kepted condensate from being an issue on the electronics. 

[talon]

It rains a LOT where I am and my 2016 SR hasn't had any issues. Only lots of warnings that are solved by a 48 hour dry out period indoors. I have a strong feeling it would go through water almost up to the headlight. That being said I tape over my front battery BMS observation cover as the plug is not water tight when going through known moisture, and ensure there is plenty of dielectric grease in the factory locations. It did stop for 0.5 second after going through some "big sustained puddles".

[clockfort]

I would just grab the logs and let the bike tell you what the fault was, in my experience all of the log lines are blissfully informative on issues.
I have had water issues on my '15 SR, but it was purely in the throttle, which is an off-the-shelf part and not really Zero's fault, but definitely did suck 

[Rangerx52]

And heres an update.

Yes, water killed it.

I just got a response from the shop. Water was found in the controller plug, and the controller is dead.
Water killed my SR.

[Crissa]

How would water have gotten in there?

-Crissa

(Who lives where it is very wet)

[Rangerx52]

I have absolutely no idea. Isnt the controller under the seat? I bought this bike because i was sick of pulling apart my last bikes to keep them working. And here i am, i changed the handlebar, with another stock handlebar- havent screwed with or messed with anything else, and its dead anyway. I havent unplugged anything, i havent shifted or adjusted anything, i havent washed it (i havent owned it long enough to even WARRANT a washing), nothing.

As for living somewhere wet, i live in vancouver. Pretty sure vancouver is about as wet as it gets, without being underwater. Even the dealership says water isnt an issue for these bikes. then followed it up with a, "well it killed yours though" essentially. Cool. Glad i could be the one in a million.

[centra12]

When does Zero actually grow up?
For an outdoor wiring harness you don't need space technology or
Also the SR/F does not load does not drive!!!
 That is so difficult to control an electric motor ?? 

[Crissa]

Yes, yes it is difficult, and yes, yes it does require technology developed for space.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

When does Zero actually grow up?
For an outdoor wiring harness you don't need space technology or
Also the SR/F does not load does not drive!!!
 That is so difficult to control an electric motor ?? 

The motor doesn't run on simple DC.  It's more of a type of PWM applied every 120 degrees to get the full 360 degree turn. Not really all that simple, IMO.

-Don-  Reno, NV

[centra12]

Has Zero now invented the Sevcon controller as well?

There have been RC model cars for years that have the same technology

[Crissa]

RC cars don't:

• Have to run in the rain.
• Be reliable for more than a mile or so.
• Run on more than low voltage.
• Pull more than a couple amps.

Yeesh.