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[NEW2elec]

Thanks, MVetter.
Very nice bikes, I wish them luck and hope all who plan to pick a new longer range Energica enjoy that great smooth electric ride for years to come.

[BigPoppa]

I really like the LiveWire but the price point is insane. If it was between ~$20-25k it would make much more sense. Even with it being less competitive on specs.. ~$30k starting price for a motorcycle is steep. I used to defend it hard, because I want the MoCo to succeed in electric.

Does Energica offer any sort of extended warranty on their bikes/battery packs? I'm curious how their battery packs hold up over time.

When I bought mine this year no extended warranty was available.

As for pricing, when I upgrade I’ll probably end up at the LiveWire pricing since I plan on getting most options added, mainly the Ohlins suspension. I’m on the fence regarding the Oz wheels though. I like the look of the “base” wheels but I want to find out if there’s any weight savings with the Oz wheels and if they’re suitable for every day riding or if they’re more suited for track use.

[MikeL]

When I bought mine this year no extended warranty was available.

As for pricing, when I upgrade I’ll probably end up at the LiveWire pricing since I plan on getting most options added, mainly the Ohlins suspension. I’m on the fence regarding the Oz wheels though. I like the look of the “base” wheels but I want to find out if there’s any weight savings with the Oz wheels and if they’re suitable for every day riding or if they’re more suited for track use.

Thanks for the info!

Yeah, when I designed one it was nearly ~28-29k...

I was curious about the Oz wheels. I wish the "i" information tooltips on their configurator gave more information. Would be nice to know everything you listed.

[oobflyer]

I've been in contact with the dealership in Livermore, CA, CalMoto, https://www.calmoto.com - they are asking for a $3,000 "Non-refundable" deposit to get on the waiting list. I was ready to place a deposit, but changed my mind because I still want to wait to see what (if anything) Lightning does with the 'Strike' - and also - I heard a rumor that Zero is planning on announcing 'something new' after the first of the year. I've had two Zero bikes (2012 and 2015) - they've been very good to me - I'm still hoping they step up to compete with the newer tech (CCS charging, for example).
Meanwhile - I'll keep saving my $ for a new toy - soon!

[MVetter]

I heard about the deposits, but I thought they were going to be half that. On the upside, we know Energica has consistently delivered on everything so far.

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

I'm sure the deposits are just to help ease any production ramp-up until they've worked any issues out. Seems reasonable, anyway.

[Richard230]

Over the years I have placed deposits down on new, first-year model BMW motorcycles at Calmoto and they were never more than $500.  To me a deposit of $3000 seems a bit much, especially as (I assume) they don't have a delivery date yet. It may take a while to get the new model Energicas into the U.S. and into their dealers' showrooms.

[MVetter]

They've delivered at least 3 to the US so far to show off at IMS, which is a good start.

[DonTom]

Over the years I have placed deposits down on new, first-year model BMW motorcycles at Calmoto and they were never more than $500.  To me a deposit of $3000 seems a bit much, especially as (I assume) they don't have a delivery date yet. It may take a while to get the new model Energicas into the U.S. and into their dealers' showrooms

At any BMW shop, AFAIK, BMW has one set of requirements for BMW and a different set of requirements for other brands. For an example, you cannot use their BMW financing for anything other their BMWs in their shop.   They use Freedom Road  for their other brands, which also means a higher interest rate.   The deposits will also be different.  BMW bikes will have the best deals with deposits and financing, AFAIK, in any BMW shop. Other brands will have different requirements, qualifications and deposit requirements and usually will NOT be as attractive as the BMW deals.

BMW has their own financing and deals that is ONLY for BMW.

-Don-  Payson, AZ (RV)

[Richard230]

Over the years I have placed deposits down on new, first-year model BMW motorcycles at Calmoto and they were never more than $500.  To me a deposit of $3000 seems a bit much, especially as (I assume) they don't have a delivery date yet. It may take a while to get the new model Energicas into the U.S. and into their dealers' showrooms

At any BMW shop, AFAIK, BMW has one set of requirements for BMW and a different set of requirements for other brands. For an example, you cannot use their BMW financing for anything other their BMWs in their shop.   They use Freedom Road  for their other brands, which also means a higher interest rate.   The deposits will also be different.  BMW bikes will have the best deals with deposits and financing, AFAIK, in any BMW shop. Other brands will have different requirements, qualifications and deposit requirements and usually will NOT be as attractive as the BMW deals.

BMW has their own financing and deals that is ONLY for BMW.

-Don-  Payson, AZ (RV)

I have never financed a motorcycle purchase. I always pay cash.

[Crissa]

Ducati gave us no-down-no-interest.

Which is why we had the cash for the Zero, honestly.

Financing is so weird.

-Crissa

[DonTom]

I have never financed a motorcycle purchase. I always pay cash.

That is so anti-American !

Often BMW has zero % financing on some bikes, so then why pay cash?

-Don-  Payson, AZ (RV)

[Richard230]

I have never financed a motorcycle purchase. I always pay cash.

That is so anti-American !

Often BMW has zero % financing on some bikes, so then why pay cash?

-Don-  Payson, AZ (RV)

Because when you have a vehicle financed you also have to purchase full insurance for each motorcycle, which is not cheap for a motorcycle - of which I have six and can only ride one at a time. So I self-insure against damage and only purchase insurance to protect third parties against my actions. For that I purchase 250K/500K liability insurance and that saves me a ton of money each year.  (I have been riding motorcycles for 57 years and have only had one accident that was the result of falling over on a greasy 10 mph curve, so I figure I can afford to insure myself against self-inflected damage.)   

About 15 years ago I inquired regarding full coverage for my Yamaha FZ1 from a motorcycle insurance company at a motorcycle show. I was told that the premium would be about $3000 a year for the Yamaha, which cost me $8,500 when new!    So I find saving first and paying cash for a vehicle is the best way to cut ownership costs.

[DonTom]

Yeah, I get the shaft on insurance big time as I have many vehicles. On most, I have full coverage but with the highest deductible  possible. Others, I only have liability, such as with the old (year 2000) RV I am in right now.

I  hope to be able to buy a decent  E-RV, but that will probably not happen in our lifetimes.

-Don-  in RV in Sunny and clear Payson, AZ

[af1 racing]

the $3k deposit figure comes from Energica.  What it takes to get in line.  These new ones are going to be in very, very high demand worldwide with a limited supply at first.  They want to send the first presold ones to customers that are 100% committed in really taking it home.   We've had people walk away from $500 deposits (our normal deposit on other bikes), but I doubt anyone would think of walking on $3k.