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[Hans2183]

It reports chargetimeleft in minutes to the remote service so you can always get an updated value granted you and the bike have network.

[Crissa]

It's a simple calculation of available amperage and current state of charge.  Yes, this varies by temperature and age and balance but for the most part it's a simple calculation - much simpler than range or Wh/mi, for instance.  There's no reason the app couldn't set its own timer or calculate and estimate.

Or it could simply count the charge time left against the clock.  No estimate, just 'hey, time is passing'.  That'd be fine, too.  But my app just erases all the data the moment I step away from the bike.

-Crissa

[TheRan]

I've only charged my bike the once so far but the current would vary by as much as 2 amps iirc, not over the course of hours or minutes either but seconds as I was watching it live on my phone. By my rough calculations that could account for a 47 minute difference in the time it takes to get a full charge in my specific case (7.2 battery charging at 10 to 12 amps). Depending on the exact moment I lost connection between my phone and the bike could result in a wildly different estimate on the time remaining if it calculated it based on the instantaneous current so it must do some averaging over time. I'm not sure what causes such a variance in current draw or if whatever that is could cause it to get stuck at the lower current, but if it did then a non-synced timer wouldn't be much help. Again, no better than just starting a separate timer.

Instead, if time really is crucial (say I don't want to keep it plugged in over night) then I'll just go to the bike every now and then so the app can sync up and I'll actually get an accurate estimation.

[Crissa]

Again, no better than just starting a separate timer.

Instead, if time really is crucial (say I don't want to keep it plugged in over night) then I'll just go to the bike every now and then so the app can sync up and I'll actually get an accurate estimation.

So it could totally have a range.  Or set a timer.  It's a program.  It can do that.

I don't want to have to copy the amount of time over to a timer program every time.  That's what computers are for.

-Crissa

[TheRan]

They certainly could do it, I'm just saying it's kind of understandable why they haven't bothered. Without being connected to the bike it's all just a load of guessing, hell as far as the app knows once it's lost the connection the bike could have been unplugged.

[NervEasy]

Any of the Belgian Zero riders had any difficulty getting their number plate?

I send (e-mail) all the needed documents to my insurer (Ethias) and they say if it's an import I need to go to an Ethias office to have all the paperwork done.

I pressed and they said they would try it via online way...

[Hans2183]

My insurance (AXA but via broker ProAssur in Gent) did get back to me at first with the papers I got from the dealer. They mentioned something about "a new system for registration" but I just told them to get in touch with the dealer instead (MotoCity Zwevegem). I did notice there was no pink paper with it like other bikes and cars normally have. Anyway next day I received my licence plate.

[NervEasy]

Another quick question,

How is it possible for a demo bike that has 98km odometer and 97% of charge at the start of the testride and after 1.5km the charge has dropped to 92% (was a 14.4kw battery pack). The 1.5km where all done in eco setting.

Bike could be standing for a few weeks before test ride but isn't older than 4 months.

[TheRan]

Another quick question,

How is it possible for a demo bike that has 98km odometer and 97% of charge at the start of the testride and after 1.5km the charge has dropped to 92% (was a 14.4kw battery pack). The 1.5km where all done in eco setting.

Bike could be standing for a few weeks before test ride but isn't older than 4 months.

That's a 720w/h drop, enough to get you well over 15km with enthusiastic riding in sport mode so definitely not normal behaviour. My guess would be that the voltage had recovered after the bike had been left unused, if that's something that could be possible with this type of battery. I do know that some more conventional batteries can have their voltage recover shortly after being used so they appear more charged than they actually are, and then once they're put back under load the voltage quickly drops back down. Perhaps simply having the bike turned on for a minute or two would have allowed this to happen.

[NervEasy]

I just picked up the bike. Demo model with 98km on the clock. 2019 Zero S with Chargetank option.

Dealer said the fast drop came from the fact the bike was not connected to the charger for 3 weeks.
Rode it 100 km today. Normal battery behavior now.

Happy with the bike so far.

[vinceherman]

Happy with the bike so far.

Congrats!

[NervEasy]

Thank you!

Quick question though. On the app when I check the firmware i get this screen:

https://imgur.com/a/ELRM2DT



Bike runs normal though and app works fine for all other things.

Any ideas?

[BrianTRice@gmail.com]

It says "try again later", so just do that. The firmware download service is probably having an issue.

[NervEasy]

It’s showing this message since i got the bike (3days ago)

[Hans2183]

Try with another connection, could be a wifi configuration issue.
If you're sure you're missing out on features you can always ask a dealer to wire it up to get the latest firmware installed.