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[BigPoppa]

https://electrek.co/2019/11/05/new-2020-energica-electric-motorcycle-more-battery/

According to the article you’ll be able to order the bikes with either the original 13kw battery or the new 20kw battery. I’m hoping this means it’ll be possible to upgrade existing bikes relatively easily.

[Richard230]

Very impressive!  It will be interesting to see how Energica prices the big-battery bike.  I sure wish Zero would follow in their footsteps.

[MVetter]

No price change.

[NEW2elec]

No price change.

That can't be right.  I tried to configure an Ego and the only option for $22k was the 11.7 kWh base bike.  There is info on the 18.9 nominal but no pricing yet.  Now if they leave the same $22k price for the 18.9 then what will the price be for the 11.7 bike?
Also will the base Ego use the same new battery tech to really lower the weight of the smaller battery option?

[MVetter]

All bikes are getting the 21.5 pack with the weight drop at the same price. Current models with the 11.7kWh pack will be priced to sell

[NEW2elec]

I know your more in the know than me, but that's what's on the site.  An Ego with 11.7 and an Ego+ with 18.9.
I can certainly see them phasing out the smaller battery bikes as an option but if they can shave 100lbs off the old weight by having the new battery tech in just a smaller volume that could be a nice twisty track bike option.

All in all a great step forward for Energica and all electric motorcycles.   Bravo.

[DonTom]

No price change.

If we may  order either one, how can there be no price change?

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[DonTom]

https://electrek.co/2019/11/05/new-2020-energica-electric-motorcycle-more-battery/

According to the article you’ll be able to order the bikes with either the original 13kw battery or the new 20kw battery. I’m hoping this means it’ll be possible to upgrade existing bikes relatively easily.

So now they are rating their batteries in max capacity, like Zero. Or are they? Isn't the "20KWH" battery really 21.5 KWH?

I assume the battery will still cost half the price of the bike. Even if we can upgrade, I wonder what happens with our old batteries.

I wonder if we should have waited a year . . .

The new battery is important to me because that should get me from Auburn to Reno with only home charging.

I will head back to Reno today on my Energica. I will need to fast charge near the summit.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[DonTom]

https://electrek.co/2019/11/05/new-2020-energica-electric-motorcycle-more-battery/

According to the article you’ll be able to order the bikes with either the original 13kw battery or the new 20kw battery. I’m hoping this means it’ll be possible to upgrade existing bikes relatively easily.

I just noticed that it says:

"The company’s line of electric motorcycles saw its first major update in years today as Energica has just revealed its new 2020 models with a massive increase in battery capacity and range."

We already have 2020 models! OTOH, I think all of Europe goes by the first date of sale. So our 2020 models are 2019 models in Europe.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Doug S]

I gotta say I've been a Zero guy since I bought my SR in January 2014, but Energica really seems to be heading in a direction I like. A bigger bike, more comfortable for us older gentlemen, with a larger battery AND DC fast charging.

I really wish they'd develop their dealer network in this country. Google maps tells me I'm 73.9 miles from the nearest dealer and I'm one of the luckier people in this country. I don't know if that's something I could work with. Prohibitive towing rates mean if my bike broke down and I couldn't fix it myself, I'd be looking at renting a trailer and a vehicle to tow it (though I could add a hitch to my RAV4). I'm 18.5 miles from my Zero dealer and that already seems like a pain.

[DonTom]

I really wish they'd develop their dealer network in this country.

When Laurence (From Energica in Redwood City, CA) was here to pick up my bike, I mentioned  the many  dealers who seemed to be very interested in carrying Energica. It kinda seemed to me that Energica is very picky on who they let become dealers after they apply to be such.  Seems to me that Energica doesn't  want to have many dealers in the USA, at least not too close together. And I think to them, "Too close" could mean closer than 150 miles or so.  Perhaps they think it will take some business away from their other dealers, such as Ca Moto, where I got my SS9 from.  But IMO, one of the main reasons Energica doesn't sell more bikes is because there are not many dealers in the USA.

Maybe all this will change when their demand goes up with their new 21.5 KWH battery.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[MVetter]

So now they are rating their batteries in max capacity, like Zero. Or are they? Isn't the "20KWH" battery really 21.5 KWH?

Every company has a 'max' vs 'nominal'. The difference is Zero's numbers tend to be heavily inflated. Zero's 14.4kWh is actually 11.628kWh nominal even though they list something like 12.6kWh nominal. The 11.7kWh in the Energicas we all have seems to literally be 11.7kWh. If you drain it all the way and give it a full charge it will accept ~11.7kWh. Feel free to test it yourself as well. Energica lists 21.5kWh max and 18.9kWh nominal I believe, so expect a real 18.9 from this.

If we may  order either one, how can there be no price change?

As I understand it the existing 2020s will be subject to a price drop. The existing 2019s and before will be subject to an even more aggressive price drop. The new 21.5s will retain the existing prices. That's what I mean by no price change.

[Crissa]

Well, they haven't delivered any yet, so maybe they won't actually sell them in the EU until 2020.  Half the remaining time would be shipping, anyhow.

-Crissa

[MVetter]

I suspect these will be hitting dealers sooner rather than later.

[DonTom]

Every company has a 'max' vs 'nominal'. The difference is Zero's numbers tend to be heavily inflated. Zero's 14.4kWh is actually 11.628kWh nominal even though they list something like 12.6kWh nominal. The 11.7kWh in the Energicas we all have seems to literally be 11.7kWh.

IOW, the 11.7 KWH battery in my Energica has more KWH than the 14.4 KWH from Zero.

-Don-  Auburn, CA